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Jeff
darn was gonna suggest a clean install too; in my last post to ya
glad ya got it fixed
Jeff
glad ya got it fixed
Jeff
N
Nero
Do you know that you are a fekkin big mouth?
HE said"That everyone is downloading"
HE was referring to the fact that hell of a lot of people are ALL
downloading the exact SAME build regardless of WHERE from.
IF that does NOT include you and all your"good lil ol boys"then shut it.
The build that people ar ALL gettin as RTM IS the exact same as the one that
will be in the stores.......
IF YOU want to lose money in a bet then go on loudmouth.
IF you are a yank then your usage of words over there is hell of a lot
different from the rest of the world.
AND before ANYONE says that FEKKIN is bad language it is NOT.
It ONLY means what it means to those who are TRUE IRISH.
HE said"That everyone is downloading"
HE was referring to the fact that hell of a lot of people are ALL
downloading the exact SAME build regardless of WHERE from.
IF that does NOT include you and all your"good lil ol boys"then shut it.
The build that people ar ALL gettin as RTM IS the exact same as the one that
will be in the stores.......
IF YOU want to lose money in a bet then go on loudmouth.
IF you are a yank then your usage of words over there is hell of a lot
different from the rest of the world.
AND before ANYONE says that FEKKIN is bad language it is NOT.
It ONLY means what it means to those who are TRUE IRISH.
J
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
Obviously you had nothing intelligent to say.
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
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http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
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Nero
Loudmouth
Jupiter Jones said:
N
Nero
fekkin MVP
Jupiter Jones said:
C
Clint
Which website is that?
Clint
Clint
Dr. Edison said:Hi Rich,
I did a clean install of Vista and am able to go to a webpage where I can
buy a key. I really don't think MS condones that either but I've never
heard
of them refusing money either
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Nero
There is no website where you can"buy a key".
Only"key"was from MS IF you downloaded or had Vista on a DVD from MS.
Even then you could not"buy".
Oh so he paid MS did he?
fer what then?
a"key"to use pirated/leaked software?
Only"key"was from MS IF you downloaded or had Vista on a DVD from MS.
Even then you could not"buy".
Oh so he paid MS did he?
fer what then?
a"key"to use pirated/leaked software?
R
Rich Milburn
Nero I think you are mistaken. With XP, if you have obtained a non-legit
version (say you bought a computer from Joe's Computer Shack and it did not
have a Genuine copy), you can go to a website and purchase a license and
key. I don't know why they wouldn't continue this with Vista, and I know
for a fact that you can go online and upgrade Vista by paying money and getting
a new key.
I'm interested as to whether or not he can actually buy a key yet...
Rich
version (say you bought a computer from Joe's Computer Shack and it did not
have a Genuine copy), you can go to a website and purchase a license and
key. I don't know why they wouldn't continue this with Vista, and I know
for a fact that you can go online and upgrade Vista by paying money and getting
a new key.
I'm interested as to whether or not he can actually buy a key yet...
Rich
T
Theo
You can definitely buy a Win XP key at a MS web site. If
your current product key is determined to be an invalid key,
you will be taken to a Microsoft Genuine Advantage web site
where you fill out the information online and a product key
is emailed to you. You are also given a link to download a
file to "update" your product key. A few weeks later you
will receive a CD in the mail.
your current product key is determined to be an invalid key,
you will be taken to a Microsoft Genuine Advantage web site
where you fill out the information online and a product key
is emailed to you. You are also given a link to download a
file to "update" your product key. A few weeks later you
will receive a CD in the mail.
R
Richard Urban
The RTM version of Vista is not available yet for legitimate download.
Therefore, the gent has a pirated/illegal copy.
If Microsoft sold him a key it would be legitimizing a system that is likely
to be incomplete, altered or infected. Microsoft would then be responsible
for that O/S.
So, now the guy comes back and says that Vista contains backdoors, keylogers
and virus's. Of course, when he complains he won't tell the "whole" truth -
because it would not be self-serving to do so.
I don't really think Microsoft would sell him a key for this operating
system.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
Therefore, the gent has a pirated/illegal copy.
If Microsoft sold him a key it would be legitimizing a system that is likely
to be incomplete, altered or infected. Microsoft would then be responsible
for that O/S.
So, now the guy comes back and says that Vista contains backdoors, keylogers
and virus's. Of course, when he complains he won't tell the "whole" truth -
because it would not be self-serving to do so.
I don't really think Microsoft would sell him a key for this operating
system.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
G
Guest
Here's the link to where we will be able to buy keys
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/co...r=US&mid=f8cf203c-f304-42a3-85b3-b281c456fb5c
I looked a bit further and I could not find an option to buy now. However
Visat is hitting the streets in about 2 weeks
http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35717 and I'll bet ya a pizza
that we'll be able to buy keys then. I'm sure MS knows that many people have
downloaded the RTM and I don't see them not wanting to cash in on some
holiday profits.
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/co...r=US&mid=f8cf203c-f304-42a3-85b3-b281c456fb5c
I looked a bit further and I could not find an option to buy now. However
Visat is hitting the streets in about 2 weeks
http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35717 and I'll bet ya a pizza
that we'll be able to buy keys then. I'm sure MS knows that many people have
downloaded the RTM and I don't see them not wanting to cash in on some
holiday profits.
G
Guest
Since you have no knowledge of which version of Windows Vista RTM
you illegally downloaded, i.e. Volume, OEM, Retail, etc.; your inquiry
cannot be addressed. You need to wait until you purchase an authentic,
genuine version of Windows Vista and then legally install it with the
genuine Windows Vista DVD and Product Key it comes with.
My educated guess is you downloaded a "hacked" version that
will never pass Windows Genuine Advantage validation.
you illegally downloaded, i.e. Volume, OEM, Retail, etc.; your inquiry
cannot be addressed. You need to wait until you purchase an authentic,
genuine version of Windows Vista and then legally install it with the
genuine Windows Vista DVD and Product Key it comes with.
My educated guess is you downloaded a "hacked" version that
will never pass Windows Genuine Advantage validation.
G
Guest
Q. "I'm sure MS knows that many people have downloaded the RTM
and I don't see them not wanting to cash in on some holiday profits."
A. Since you do not know which version of Windows Vista RTM you illegally
downloaded, I would not place any faith in your assumption.
and I don't see them not wanting to cash in on some holiday profits."
A. Since you do not know which version of Windows Vista RTM you illegally
downloaded, I would not place any faith in your assumption.
G
Guest
That's quite possible this version won't pass muster but I should be able to
buy a official version by the time this one expires. However, this version
was being called the "Official MS RTM Version" so there's a chance this will
will activate once I've bought a key.
Thanks,
Edison
buy a official version by the time this one expires. However, this version
was being called the "Official MS RTM Version" so there's a chance this will
will activate once I've bought a key.
Thanks,
Edison
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Carey Frisch [MVP]
"Official MS RTM Version" means absolutely nothing
coming from an illegal download site because there are
several different licensed versions and editions of Windows Vista.
A genuine Windows Vista Product Key will only
work with the specific licensed version.
Vista Editions: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/editions/default.mspx
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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
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| That's quite possible this version won't pass muster but I should be able to
| buy a official version by the time this one expires. However, this version
| was being called the "Official MS RTM Version" so there's a chance this will
| will activate once I've bought a key.
| Thanks,
| Edison
| "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
coming from an illegal download site because there are
several different licensed versions and editions of Windows Vista.
A genuine Windows Vista Product Key will only
work with the specific licensed version.
Vista Editions: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/editions/default.mspx
--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
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:
| That's quite possible this version won't pass muster but I should be able to
| buy a official version by the time this one expires. However, this version
| was being called the "Official MS RTM Version" so there's a chance this will
| will activate once I've bought a key.
| Thanks,
| Edison
| "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
J
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
I have little to no trust in what is proclaimed by those distributing
illegitimate software.
They start with a dishonest action and yet strangers take their word at face
value largely because they say they deliver something for nothing.
illegitimate software.
They start with a dishonest action and yet strangers take their word at face
value largely because they say they deliver something for nothing.
G
Guest
Understood. Thsi is the Ultimate version & I hope I can just buy a license
for it, install the key and all will be well. If not, its really not that big
of a deal to format and perform a clean install.
I am wondering that "if" this copy will accept a legit key, will I be able
to buy VU at the upgrade price rather than having to buy the non-upgrade
version of Ultimate. I do have a legal XP Pro license.
Thanks,
Edison
for it, install the key and all will be well. If not, its really not that big
of a deal to format and perform a clean install.
I am wondering that "if" this copy will accept a legit key, will I be able
to buy VU at the upgrade price rather than having to buy the non-upgrade
version of Ultimate. I do have a legal XP Pro license.
Thanks,
Edison
B
Ben Salisbury
Someone correct me if I'm wrong,
But your SOL on this one, Ultimate will not be available for purchase by
individuals (I think).
I do understand what you are saying though (Don't condone) but understand.
You've downloaded (what you think) is the RTM version.
When an individual purchases Vista, you are not technically purchasing the
media, but the license to use the software on the media.
The Vista DVD (Just for you Nero) contains all versions, which one gets
installed is determined by the key you enter.
Darrell from MS stated in another thread that for upgrades you will have to
initiate the install from within XP so it can authenticate itself and know
it is a legit upgrade.
I would take this to mean you cannot activate an already installed copy with
an upgrade key
SO
1) At some point in time, you probably will be able to just buy a key from
MS, they've done it with the other versions so why not Vista.
2) If you purchase an Upgrade key, It will be one of the other versions of
Vista, not ultimate (If what I said at the very start is true).
3) The Upgrade key will not be able to activate an already installed copy,
so you must wipe, re-install XP, and install again. (there goes your
Ultimate you had installed)
4) Technically speaking, if you actually had the full actual RTM, then a
purchased upgrade key shouldn't have any issues.
But if you are truly committed to buying an upgrade key, why not just take
the time to drive to you local computer store, pay virtually the same amount
for an upgrade copy and install that? You then have the comfort of knowing,
your OS has not been hampered with in any way. And you'd also know for a
fact that your upgrade key will work...if it doesn't you've got a receipt to
take it back to the store and get another one.
As it stands right now, you run the risk of wasting the cost of an upgrade
key...because there is no telling if you really have a leaked RTM version.
If you don't, they key probably will not work...and you'll have to go out
and buy a real copy so you have the correct media to install it.
-Ben
But your SOL on this one, Ultimate will not be available for purchase by
individuals (I think).
I do understand what you are saying though (Don't condone) but understand.
You've downloaded (what you think) is the RTM version.
When an individual purchases Vista, you are not technically purchasing the
media, but the license to use the software on the media.
The Vista DVD (Just for you Nero) contains all versions, which one gets
installed is determined by the key you enter.
Darrell from MS stated in another thread that for upgrades you will have to
initiate the install from within XP so it can authenticate itself and know
it is a legit upgrade.
I would take this to mean you cannot activate an already installed copy with
an upgrade key
SO
1) At some point in time, you probably will be able to just buy a key from
MS, they've done it with the other versions so why not Vista.
2) If you purchase an Upgrade key, It will be one of the other versions of
Vista, not ultimate (If what I said at the very start is true).
3) The Upgrade key will not be able to activate an already installed copy,
so you must wipe, re-install XP, and install again. (there goes your
Ultimate you had installed)
4) Technically speaking, if you actually had the full actual RTM, then a
purchased upgrade key shouldn't have any issues.
But if you are truly committed to buying an upgrade key, why not just take
the time to drive to you local computer store, pay virtually the same amount
for an upgrade copy and install that? You then have the comfort of knowing,
your OS has not been hampered with in any way. And you'd also know for a
fact that your upgrade key will work...if it doesn't you've got a receipt to
take it back to the store and get another one.
As it stands right now, you run the risk of wasting the cost of an upgrade
key...because there is no telling if you really have a leaked RTM version.
If you don't, they key probably will not work...and you'll have to go out
and buy a real copy so you have the correct media to install it.
-Ben
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Carey Frisch [MVP]
My understanding is that all those so-called "Vista RTM"
download sites offer a non-retail version. That being the
case, Microsoft does not sell, to individuals, any license
other than a "retail license". So even if you legally purchased
a "genuine retail license" for Windows Vista Ultimate, it
will not work with a non-retail version of Windows Vista.
Retail licenses will become available on 01/30/2007.
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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
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| Understood. Thsi is the Ultimate version & I hope I can just buy a license
| for it, install the key and all will be well. If not, its really not that big
| of a deal to format and perform a clean install.
| I am wondering that "if" this copy will accept a legit key, will I be able
| to buy VU at the upgrade price rather than having to buy the non-upgrade
| version of Ultimate. I do have a legal XP Pro license.
| Thanks,
| Edison
download sites offer a non-retail version. That being the
case, Microsoft does not sell, to individuals, any license
other than a "retail license". So even if you legally purchased
a "genuine retail license" for Windows Vista Ultimate, it
will not work with a non-retail version of Windows Vista.
Retail licenses will become available on 01/30/2007.
--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
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:
| Understood. Thsi is the Ultimate version & I hope I can just buy a license
| for it, install the key and all will be well. If not, its really not that big
| of a deal to format and perform a clean install.
| I am wondering that "if" this copy will accept a legit key, will I be able
| to buy VU at the upgrade price rather than having to buy the non-upgrade
| version of Ultimate. I do have a legal XP Pro license.
| Thanks,
| Edison
J
Jane C
Ben, Ultimate will be available to everybody. Enterprise Edition is the one
that will not be available for individuals.
that will not be available for individuals.