Why Won't Acronis True Image Unistall?

[Bob]

I do not need Acronis True Image any more. I tried to uninstall it,
but it issued an error message saying that it was not uninstalled.

No reason given - dontcha just luv well-written user-friendly s/w.

I even tried the official Uninstall utility supplied by Acronis
located in the Programs section of Start. Same thing happened.

How do I uninstall it?

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[Bob]

I do not need Acronis True Image any more. I tried to uninstall it,
but it issued an error message saying that it was not uninstalled.

No reason given - dontcha just luv well-written user-friendly s/w.

I even tried the official Uninstall utility supplied by Acronis
located in the Programs section of Start. Same thing happened.

How do I uninstall it?

OK, I will answer my own question. According to the Acronis TI forum
you have to do the following.

+++
- Delete Acronis Secure Zone either through the wizard or manually;

- Delete "snapman" from the following registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
-> UpperFilters

- Delete "snapman" and "timounter" from the following registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{71A27CDD-812A-11D0-BEC7-08002BE2092F}
-> UpperFilters

- Run Device Manager and delete Acronis Image Archive Explorer;

- Delete "snapman", "timounter" and "tifsfilter" from the following
registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services

- Delete "TrueImage" value from the following registry keys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Acronis\Autopart (can be absent)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Acronis\CDRecord
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Acronis\Schedule2
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Acronis\SnapAPI
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Acronis\Snapman
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Acronis\VBus

- Delete the Windows\System32\autoprnt.exe file, if it exists;

- Delete the following folders:

Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\CDRecord
Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\Drivers

- Download the http://www.acronis.com/files/support/schedmgr.exe file;
- Open the command prompt (Start -> Run -> cmd);
- Run the following command in the folder you saved the file to:
schedmgr service uninstall
- Open Task Manager and stop the following processes: schedhlp.exe,
TrueImageMonitor.exe;
- Delete the Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\Schedule2 folder;

- Delete the desktop icon and Start menu shortcuts;

- Delete the Program Files\Common Files\Acronis folder;
- Delete the Program Files\Acronis\TrueImage folder;
- Delete the Program Files\Acronis folder;

- Delete "TrueImage Monitor" value from the following registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

- Delete the following keys in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT:

..tib
..tis
tibfile
tisfile

- Delete the following registry keys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\TrueImage

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Acronis (you may need to grant full
control permission to yourself to delete this key)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Acronis

- Reboot the computer.
+++

Bummer. But it did work.

I thought only Zone Labs made you go thru hoops to uninstall their
crap Zone Alarm.


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[Timothy Daniels]

I do not need Acronis True Image any more. I tried to uninstall it,
but it issued an error message saying that it was not uninstalled.

No reason given - dontcha just luv well-written user-friendly s/w.

I even tried the official Uninstall utility supplied by Acronis
located in the Programs section of Start. Same thing happened.

How do I uninstall it?

OK, I will answer my own question. According to the Acronis TI forum
you have to do the following.

+++
[long procedure snipped]
+++
Bummer. But it did work.

I thought only Zone Labs made you go thru hoops to uninstall their
crap Zone Alarm.

Something must have gotten screwed up in the uninstall program.
I had Acronis "Blue Image", and it uninstalled quickly and automaticly.
But I'm glad that I didn't pay full retail price for that limited use piece of
shaftware.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Bob]

I do not need Acronis True Image any more.

Here's why, for those who might be interested. Those who are not
interested can move on.

I just installed the Enermax 352 DynaBacker RAID-1/ Backup unit. I
have it configured in the Backup mode for now, and I will likely leave
it that way. I see no reason to use RAID-1 when I am using WD drives.
I beat the crap out of a couple Caviars over the past 6 years and
SMART said they looked almost like new. Keep the drive cool and it
will last forever.

I have the Backup mode set for 4:00 am once per day, which is when
things are the quietest. Windows continues to run uninterrupted - no
booting to DVM shells or other contrivances.

I set the Backup speed to NORMAL since there was no reason to use FAST
or SLOW. When I tested it in FAST the filesystem was a bit sluggish.
In NORMAL the filesystem appears to behave normally - no impact from
the unit.

It takes right at 60 minutes to backup my 80GB HD. It copies every
sector even though I only have 15GB on it. I know because I used
Norton Undelete to show me that deleted files were still there. The
only way that can happen is if the entire disk is copied.

I have three 80GB WD SE disks in the set. One of them will be the boot
disk, the second will be the backup disk and the third will be the
archive disk away from the computer. I plan to rotate those disks each
week on Sunday, thereby keeping a one-week disaster recovery archive
available. Rotating will also age the disks uniformly.

Thus far the unit has functioned as advertised. However, as with any
new product, the s/w has nuisance glitches. For example, the installer
laid off the device files in the root director - dumb and dumber. If I
ever caught a developer doing something stupid like that, I would fire
him. I suppose I can hack the registry and convert the settings to
point to a directory.

Another nuisance occurs in Backup mode. If you stop the computer to
rotate the disks, then the s/w will automatically begin building a new
backup when the computer is restarted. Although the manual claims that
the s/w keeps track of the real boot disk and the real backup disk,
it's good to know that the archive disk was rotated from the boot disk
so you can recover if the s/w screws up. They need to fix that - even
the STOP button is greyed out. IOW, you get a backup whether you
wanted it or not every time you change the disk configuration. I
believe this is only in Backup mode.

A third nuisance is the fact that you cannot run any "low-level" disk
utilities while the s/w is running. For example, I had to disable
SMART and DTemp, and I cannot run Everest while the "DynaView" utility
is running. I can shut it off and then run those other utilities, but
I have to remember to restart it if I want an automatic backup at the
scheduled time.

They have a utility that sends email, so you can see what happened
when it tries to do the backup. However the codes are undocumented and
kinda silly because they say things like "WARRY 3". I don't know if
that's Taiwanese for "WORRY" or "WEARY" or "WARY" or whatever.
Unfortunately there is no log that I can find.

They do not include the main manual (61 pages) in the box - only some
dumbed-down "quick install". It pays to get the main manual from the
manufacturer and print it ahead of time.

Those who enjoy the old legacy method of making backups will
undoubtedly claim that procedures involving image-making s/w work just
as good if not better. I claim otherwise. Other than rotating the 3
disks once a week, everything is *completely* automatic. I do nothing
except make sure the backup s/w is properly configured and running in
the tray. But it's restoring that makes it all worthwhile. Just swap
the drive trays. Nothing could be easier IMO.


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[Bob]

Something must have gotten screwed up in the uninstall program.

I suspect the problem had to do with my installing it in a non-default
location. The idiots hard-coded the default location and then the
uninstaller crapped out when it could not find anything there.

And this was version 8. I would hate to see what happened on the 7
previous versions.

The forum has archives of people bitching about this. I got the
instructions on how to uninstall manually from the forum.

As it is, those manual uninstall procedures still missed some keys as
I discovered running a registry cleaner.

I had Acronis "Blue Image", and it uninstalled quickly and automatically.
But I'm glad that I didn't pay full retail price for that limited use piece of
shaftware.

Indeed.


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[Rod Speed]

OK, I will answer my own question. According to the Acronis TI forum
you have to do the following.

+++
- Delete Acronis Secure Zone either through the wizard or manually;

- Delete "snapman" from the following registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
-> UpperFilters

- Delete "snapman" and "timounter" from the following registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{71A27CDD-812A-11D0-BEC7-08002BE2092F}
-> UpperFilters

- Run Device Manager and delete Acronis Image Archive Explorer;

- Delete "snapman", "timounter" and "tifsfilter" from the following
registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services

- Delete "TrueImage" value from the following registry keys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Acronis\Autopart (can be absent)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Acronis\CDRecord
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Acronis\Schedule2
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Acronis\SnapAPI
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Acronis\Snapman
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Acronis\VBus

- Delete the Windows\System32\autoprnt.exe file, if it exists;

- Delete the following folders:

Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\CDRecord
Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\Drivers

- Download the http://www.acronis.com/files/support/schedmgr.exe file;
- Open the command prompt (Start -> Run -> cmd);
- Run the following command in the folder you saved the file to:
schedmgr service uninstall
- Open Task Manager and stop the following processes: schedhlp.exe,
TrueImageMonitor.exe;
- Delete the Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\Schedule2 folder;

- Delete the desktop icon and Start menu shortcuts;

- Delete the Program Files\Common Files\Acronis folder;
- Delete the Program Files\Acronis\TrueImage folder;
- Delete the Program Files\Acronis folder;

- Delete "TrueImage Monitor" value from the following registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

- Delete the following keys in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT:

.tib
.tis
tibfile
tisfile

- Delete the following registry keys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\TrueImage

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Acronis (you may need to grant full
control permission to yourself to delete this key)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Acronis

- Reboot the computer.
+++

Bummer. But it did work.

I thought only Zone Labs made you go thru hoops to uninstall their
crap Zone Alarm.

'think' again.

There is certainly some evidence of less that ideal design
stuff with acronis. The other significant problem is that they
have one hell of a capacity for fixing something, then breaking
it again in the next version. Thats just plain badly managed.

 

[Rod Speed]

We'll see...

Here's why, for those who might be interested.
Those who are not interested can move on.

I just installed the Enermax 352 DynaBacker RAID-1/ Backup
unit. I have it configured in the Backup mode for now, and I
will likely leave it that way. I see no reason to use RAID-1

Yeah, any form of mirroring has some real downsides for backup.

The most obviously downside is if you do something really
stupid, that will get applied to both copys virtually instantly.

There's also a real problem if say an install goes pear shaped etc.

when I am using WD drives. I beat the crap out of a couple Caviars
over the past 6 years and SMART said they looked almost like new.

The technical term for that is 'pathetically inadequate sample'

Keep the drive cool and it will last forever.

You dont know that, and plenty have had
a WD drive that has been kept cool die.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
dont actually have a clue about the basics of reliability.

I have the Backup mode set for 4:00 am once per day, which
is when things are the quietest. Windows continues to run
uninterrupted - no booting to DVM shells or other contrivances.

I set the Backup speed to NORMAL since there was no
reason to use FAST or SLOW. When I tested it in FAST
the filesystem was a bit sluggish. In NORMAL the filesystem
appears to behave normally - no impact from the unit.

It takes right at 60 minutes to backup my 80GB HD.

Urk, thats a bit slow.

It copies every sector even though I only have 15GB on it.

Urk, no wonder its so slow.

I know because I used Norton Undelete to show
me that deleted files were still there. The only
way that can happen is if the entire disk is copied.

Still rather slow for 80G copied.

I have three 80GB WD SE disks in the set. One of them
will be the boot disk, the second will be the backup disk
and the third will be the archive disk away from the computer.
I plan to rotate those disks each week on Sunday,

After a quiet grovel to some damned 'god' or other presumably.

thereby keeping a one-week disaster recovery archive available.

The main downside with that approach is that I prefer to do a full
copy just before doing something important like an install or update,
so its easy to just reverse the install etc. 60 minutes per copy is so
slow that there will be plenty of times when you dont bother with
something that looks like it wont bite, and then you can find it does.

A modern OS level incremental backup is a lot faster and so its
much more likely that you will choose to do one just before any
install or update at all, so you are much less likely to get bitten.

Particulary if you do a full image creation overnight every
night so the incremental backup would normally be quite
quick since not all that much has usually changed.

So what have you gained with an Enermax
352 DynaBacker RAID-1/ Backup unit ?

Nothing, that's what.

Rotating will also age the disks uniformly.

Thats silly, thats not a real effect with hard drives. In fact
its likely to increase the failure rate, power cycling drives
like that rather than having them running continuously.

Thus far the unit has functioned as advertised.

It would be a hell of a lot more surprising if it didnt.

However, as with any new product, the s/w has nuisance glitches.

Yep, there's a reason why some of us avoid using version 1 of anything.

For example, the installer laid off the device files in the root
directory - dumb and dumber. If I ever caught a developer
doing something stupid like that, I would fire him.

You clearly havent.

I suppose I can hack the registry and
convert the settings to point to a directory.

Likely to bite with an uninstall.

Another nuisance occurs in Backup mode.
If you stop the computer to rotate the disks,

Stupid to bother.

then the s/w will automatically begin building
a new backup when the computer is restarted.

And another hour gets pissed against the wall to no useful purpose.

Although the manual claims that the s/w keeps track
of the real boot disk and the real backup disk, it's
good to know that the archive disk was rotated from
the boot disk so you can recover if the s/w screws up.
They need to fix that - even the STOP button is greyed
out. IOW, you get a backup whether you wanted it or
not every time you change the disk configuration.
I believe this is only in Backup mode.

A third nuisance is the fact that you cannot run any
"low-level" disk utilities while the s/w is running. For
example, I had to disable SMART and DTemp, and I
cannot run Everest while the "DynaView" utility is running.

Fark. Thats completely ****ed.

I can shut it off and then run those other utilities,
but I have to remember to restart it if I want an
automatic backup at the scheduled time.

Hopeless with something as important as backup.

They have a utility that sends email, so you can see what happened
when it tries to do the backup. However the codes are undocumented

Funny that. So much for the advertising hype/lies.

and kinda silly because they say things like "WARRY 3".
I don't know if that's Taiwanese for "WORRY" or "WEARY"
or "WARY" or whatever.

Its more likely to be chinese for #3 Son.

Unfortunately there is no log that I can find.

Wota steaming turd.

They do not include the main manual (61 pages) in the box
- only some dumbed-down "quick install". It pays to get the
main manual from the manufacturer and print it ahead of time.

No thanks, I dont print anything anymore.

Those who enjoy the old legacy method of making backups
will undoubtedly claim that procedures involving image-making
s/w work just as good if not better.

Corse anyone with a clue does on the backup time alone.

I claim otherwise.

More fool you.

Other than rotating the 3 disks once a
week, everything is *completely* automatic.

Not if you want to use SMART to monitor your drives it aint.

Only a fool doesnt.

I do nothing except make sure the backup s/w is properly
configured and running in the tray. But it's restoring that
makes it all worthwhile. Just swap the drive trays.

You can do that with the software route too.

And use a standards compliant approach with the physical drives too.

Nothing could be easier IMO.

More fool you again.

 

[Bob]

We'll see...



Yeah, any form of mirroring has some real downsides for backup.

The most obviously downside is if you do something really
stupid, that will get applied to both copys virtually instantly.

There's also a real problem if say an install goes pear shaped etc.


The technical term for that is 'pathetically inadequate sample'


You dont know that, and plenty have had
a WD drive that has been kept cool die.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
dont actually have a clue about the basics of reliability.




Urk, thats a bit slow.


Urk, no wonder its so slow.


Still rather slow for 80G copied.


After a quiet grovel to some damned 'god' or other presumably.


The main downside with that approach is that I prefer to do a full
copy just before doing something important like an install or update,
so its easy to just reverse the install etc. 60 minutes per copy is so
slow that there will be plenty of times when you dont bother with
something that looks like it wont bite, and then you can find it does.

A modern OS level incremental backup is a lot faster and so its
much more likely that you will choose to do one just before any
install or update at all, so you are much less likely to get bitten.

Particulary if you do a full image creation overnight every
night so the incremental backup would normally be quite
quick since not all that much has usually changed.

So what have you gained with an Enermax
352 DynaBacker RAID-1/ Backup unit ?

Nothing, that's what.


Thats silly, thats not a real effect with hard drives. In fact
its likely to increase the failure rate, power cycling drives
like that rather than having them running continuously.


It would be a hell of a lot more surprising if it didnt.


Yep, there's a reason why some of us avoid using version 1 of anything.


You clearly havent.


Likely to bite with an uninstall.


Stupid to bother.


And another hour gets pissed against the wall to no useful purpose.



Fark. Thats completely ****ed.


Hopeless with something as important as backup.


Funny that. So much for the advertising hype/lies.


Its more likely to be chinese for #3 Son.


Wota steaming turd.


No thanks, I dont print anything anymore.


Corse anyone with a clue does on the backup time alone.


More fool you.


Not if you want to use SMART to monitor your drives it aint.

Only a fool doesnt.


You can do that with the software route too.

And use a standards compliant approach with the physical drives too.


More fool you again.

It is my duty to warn the Gentle Reader that this reply from
<[email protected]> has serious errors. You are best advised to
research the issues for yourself.

For example, ask yourself just what files are actually backed up by
utilities like Acronis True Image when they do any kind of partial
backup, like the incremental backup suggested above. The answer could
surprise you at the worst possible time because malware can attack
*anything* on disk, including objects not backed up by s/w utilities.

To convince yourself of this, run the backup utility NTBackup.exe
supplied with Windows. Do as comprehensive a backup as possible, and
then look at the log to see what was excluded. Also ask if it (or any
other backup utility) has made a complete copy of the Registry or just
part of it.

One thing is for sure. If you have a full backup of every sector on a
disk, there is nothing that has not been backed up. The only way I
know to do that reliably is in hardware.

BTW, 80 GB in 60 minutes is quite respectable for a NORMAL disk copy
speed. If your backup utility is running substantially faster, then
there are chances for errors. Does your backup utility have error
detection? How do you know that the image you have built is good? If
you have to run a verifier, then the procedure is not automatic.

There are many issues to be considered in making good backups.

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[Rod Speed]

It is my duty to warn the Gentle Reader that this reply
from <[email protected]> has serious errors.
You are best advised to research the issues for yourself.

Pathetic, really.

For example, ask yourself just what files are actually backed up
by utilities like Acronis True Image when they do any kind of partial
backup, like the incremental backup suggested above. The answer
could surprise you at the worst possible time because malware can
attack *anything* on disk, including objects not backed up by s/w utilities.

Pity I was suggesting that incremental backup FOR THE
SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE DOING AN INSTALL OR AN
UPGRADE TO PROTECT AGAINST IT GOING PEAR SHAPED.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to grasp that
I suggested A FULL BACKUP OVERNIGHT EVERY NIGHT
WHEN THE SYSTEM ISNT BEING USED, for the protection
against malware and hardware failure etc.

To convince yourself of this, run the backup utility
NTBackup.exe supplied with Windows. Do as
comprehensive a backup as possible, and then
look at the log to see what was excluded.

Completely irrelevant to what True Image includes when
its doing shadow copys which NTBackup doesnt do.

Also ask if it (or any other backup utility) has made
a complete copy of the Registry or just part of it.

Ditto in spades.

One thing is for sure. If you have a full backup of every sector
on a disk, there is nothing that has not been backed up.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist loonys ?

The only way I know to do that reliably is in hardware.

Your complete pig ignorance is your problem.

Perfectly feasible to do just as good a job with software.

And the Enermax 352 DynaBacker RAID-1/
Backup unit doesnt do it 'in hardware' anyway.

BTW, 80 GB in 60 minutes is quite respectable
for a NORMAL disk copy speed.

Nope, its rather pathetic with modern systems.

If your backup utility is running substantially
faster, then there are chances for errors.

Mindless pig ignorant drivel.

Does your backup utility have error detection?

That happens at the hardware level, stupid.

How do you know that the image you have built is good? If
you have to run a verifier, then the procedure is not automatic.

Pathetic, really.

There are many issues to be considered in making good backups.

And you clearly dont have a clue about any of them at all.

 

[Bob]

And you clearly dont have a clue about any of them at all.

Excessive pontification and ad-hominems do nothing positive for your
credibility.

There are two things here:

1) The issues I have raised about backups need to be researched
carefully. No amount of pontification or ad-hominems is going to
clarify those issues.

2) I am satisfied thus far with the Enermax 352 Backup unit, despite a
few nuisance s/w glitches. They will get fixed in time. I now have a
complete solution for backups, one that resolves all the significant
issues.

Starting each morning I have a fresh backup of the previous day's
activity. If I discover something wrong during the day on the boot
disk I can easily switch over to the backup disk.

I also have a disaster recovery disk away from the computer that is at
most one week old. I can live with that. If the Enermax brainfarts on
the 2 disks in it, I can install the 3rd disk on an IDE channel - no
messy s/w-based recovery involving full and incremental backup images,
no booting to emergency CDs or DOS or a DVM shell, no worry about what
the backup s/w might have missed, no UNBOOTABLE DEVICE errors, no
IPUs, none of the bullshit that plagues s/w backups.

I put the disaster recovery disk on the IDE cable and I am back on the
air. It can't can't get any simpler than that.

If you like fooling around with old legacy schemes, that's your
problem, not mine.

And yes, I am a scientist - I have a doctorate in Physics with several
publications in theoretical and experimental Quantum Mechanics in
solid state physics in mainline refereed journals such as The Physical
Review, plus several abstracted scientific presentations at American
Physical Society meetings, plus several patents for industrial
measurement systems.

I even worked for Werner von Braun one Summer at NASA where they built
the Saturn V rockets that took man to the moon, so I suppose that
makes me a "rocket scientist" of sorts.

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[Peter]

Completely irrelevant to what True Image includes when

its doing shadow copys which NTBackup doesnt do.

WinXP and Win2003 NTBackup use shadow copy.

 

[Rod Speed]

Excessive pontification and ad-hominems
do nothing positive for your credibility.

You've never ever had any of that.

In spades when you are stupid enough to flout
standards with something as important as backup.

There are two things here:

Wrong again, lot more than two.

1) The issues I have raised about backups

You aint 'raised' any 'issue' at all, just flaunted
your complete pig ignorance of the basics.

need to be researched carefully.

Wrong again. The basics are obvious to anyone with a clue.

No amount of pontification or ad-hominems is going to clarify those issues.

Even you should be able to bullshit your way out
of your predicament better than that pathetic effort.

And your flagrant hypocrisy and flagrant dishonsty
concerning ad hominems has already been noted.

2) I am satisfied thus far with the Enermax 352
Backup unit, despite a few nuisance s/w glitches.

Your satisfaction is completely irrelevant.

You cant even manage to grasp the terminal stupidity of
deliberately flouting standards with something as crucial
as backup when its perfectly feasible to use a standards
compliant approach instead. It isnt even that flouting the
standards actually gets you anywhere at all.

Cant get anything more terminally stupid than that.

They will get fixed in time.

We'll see...

It may well be that hardly anyone is stupid enough to use
that approach to backup and the product never does fly
and it ends up down the tubes of history, along with all
the other terminally stupid approaches already down there
when hardly anyone is actually stupid enough to buy it.

In spades with a product that deliberately flouts standards
when there is no longer any need to flout standards at all.

I now have a complete solution for backups,

You dont know that yet.

And you cant until nothing has bitten you on the
arse when you need it most some time in the future.

And no single individual can ever know that anyway when the
failure rate of hardware and software is as low as it is currently.

one that resolves all the significant issues.

Another lie.

Starting each morning I have a fresh backup of the previous day's activity.

You dont need the Enermax 352 Backup unit to get that.

Hordes of us have that right now without flouting a single standard.

And have a hell of a lot better security than you have as well.

If I discover something wrong during the day on the
boot disk I can easily switch over to the backup disk.

Hordes of us have that right now without flouting a single standard.

And have a hell of a lot better security than you have as well.

I also have a disaster recovery disk away from
the computer that is at most one week old.

Hordes of us have that right now without flouting
a single standard and have had that for years too.

And have a hell of a lot better security than you have as well.

I can live with that.

You have always been, and always will be, completely
and utterly irrelevant. What you might or might not
claim to be able to live with in spades.

If the Enermax brainfarts on the 2 disks in it, I can install
the 3rd disk on an IDE channel - no messy s/w-based
recovery involving full and incremental backup images,

Thats easily avoidable if you dont like that. Without flouting a single
standard.

no booting to emergency CDs or DOS or a DVM shell,

Thats easily avoidable if you dont like that. Without flouting a single
standard.

no worry about what the backup s/w might have missed,

Trivially avoidable by anyone with a clue.

no UNBOOTABLE DEVICE errors,

Trivially avoidable by anyone with a clue.

no IPUs,

Trivially avoidable by anyone with a clue.

none of the bullshit that plagues s/w backups.

You're lying again. Anyone with a clue can avoid
all those and has been doing that for YEARS
now, without flouting a single standard as well.

And anyone with a clue doesnt use just a single approach to
backup with the stuff you'll slash your wrists if you lose either.

And you're lying, what you use isnt a pure hardware 'solution'

I put the disaster recovery disk on the
IDE cable and I am back on the air.

You were certain you could do that with your previous approach
to backup too and then you found that you didnt actually have a
clue about the basics and that it wasnt quite that simple in practice.

It can't can't get any simpler than that.

Wrong again.

If you like fooling around with old legacy schemes,

You're the one stupid enough to use legacy PATA in
a way that it was never designed to be used in instead
of the decent modern designed in capability instead.

that's your problem, not mine.

Wrong again. Your terminal stupidity is no problem of ours.

It even provides a bit of light entertainment for us.

And yes, I am a scientist - I have a doctorate in Physics with
several publications in theoretical and experimental Quantum
Mechanics in solid state physics in mainline refereed journals
such as The Physical Review, plus several abstracted scientific
presentations at American Physical Society meetings, plus
several patents for industrial measurement systems.

Whoopy do. You'll have to pardon me if I dont actually
cream my jeans when I have a similar background, posturer.

I even worked for Werner von Braun one Summer at NASA
where they built the Saturn V rockets that took man to the
moon, so I suppose that makes me a "rocket scientist" of sorts.

Nope, not when you clearly dont have a
clue about even the basics with backup.

 

[Bob]

Whoopy do. You'll have to pardon me if I dont actually
cream my jeans

You couldn't cream in your jeans if you had to.

when I have a similar background, posturer.

Operative word: "similar" which means you don't have any real
scientific credentials, certainly not at the professional level.

You do sound just like a typical academic - pontifical, arrogant,
know-it-all, full of shit.

Your credibility is no better.


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[Bob]

WinXP and Win2003 NTBackup use shadow copy.

But does it do "shadow copys" (sic)?


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[Peter]

Completely irrelevant to what True Image includes when

But does it do "shadow copys" (sic)?

What do you mean?
Can you please rephrase your question?

 

[Rod Speed]

You couldn't cream in your jeans if you had to.

Ad hominem noted, and your flagrant
hypocrisy and flagrant dishonesty too, again.

Operative word: "similar" which means you don't have any real
scientific credentials, certainly not at the professional level.

Gets which pathetic posturing fool has just got
egg all over its pathetic little face, yet again.

You do sound just like a typical academic -
pontifical, arrogant, know-it-all, full of shit.

Ad hominem noted, and your flagrant
hypocrisy and flagrant dishonesty too, again.

Your credibility is no better.

You wouldnt know what credibility was
if it bit you on your lard arse, redneck.