Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?

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Sults

I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list. I
experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon as I
enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional blankouts and
messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes followed by
restart.
I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is most
painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve stability!
 
L

LesleyO

Sults said:
I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list. I
experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon as I
enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional blankouts and
messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes followed by
restart.
I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is most
painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve stability!

This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying things like
that here.
 
T

Telstar

LesleyO said:
This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying things
like that here.

It is clearly a driver issue. I have absolutely no such problems.
 
S

Sults

Sorry LesleyO, but loosing my work several times in a row, made me very angry.
Now I am calm again, but seems, like I should more actively search
replacement for Windows to save my nerves.
 
S

Sults

Telstar said:
It is clearly a driver issue. I have absolutely no such problems.

Maybe this is somehow related with the fact that I use 64 bit Vista on Core
2 Duo system?
When I did some research in the Internet using the error message, I found
thousans of messages describing similar problem, so the problem seems to be
quite common. The error message is BTW "Display Driver has stopped Working
and has recovered". Sometimes it recovers well, but sometimes it seems to go
into cycle and after 4..5 cycles performes memory dump and restart.
 
F

Frank

Sults said:
Sorry LesleyO, but loosing my work several times in a row, made me very angry.
Now I am calm again, but seems, like I should more actively search
replacement for Windows to save my nerves.

:
At work we have about six desktops running dual monitors with Vista
Ultimate both X32 & X64 with mainly ATI vcards with no problems.
First thing to do is to check your vcards web site for the latest
drivers. if you are using the latest drivers then they may have become
corrupted and you should uninstall and reinstall them. Also make sure
you have the proper profiles for both of your monitors and that they are
listed in display settings.
 
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Sults

Frank said:
At work we have about six desktops running dual monitors with Vista
Ultimate both X32 & X64 with mainly ATI vcards with no problems.
First thing to do is to check your vcards web site for the latest
drivers. if you are using the latest drivers then they may have become
corrupted and you should uninstall and reinstall them. Also make sure
you have the proper profiles for both of your monitors and that they are
listed in display settings.

Thanks for suggestion!
I already did that. Display drivers (ATI) are updated, monitors are also
with proper profiles.
The system works several hours with dual monitors just fine, but then the
problem appears again. I have noticed, that if I manage to activate some
process (for instance press save button) right after the first recovery, then
I can work several hours without the problem. But if I do not do any action,
the error will sart to cycle and finally restarts the computer.
As my action has some influence on the problem, therefore I suspect, that
this is Vistas fault. My actions with MS Word should not have any influence
to the display drivers.
 
C

cqui3

Sults said:
Thanks for suggestion!
I already did that. Display drivers (ATI) are updated, monitors are also
with proper profiles.
The system works several hours with dual monitors just fine, but then the
problem appears again. I have noticed, that if I manage to activate some
process (for instance press save button) right after the first recovery,
then
I can work several hours without the problem. But if I do not do any
action,
the error will sart to cycle and finally restarts the computer.
As my action has some influence on the problem, therefore I suspect, that
this is Vistas fault. My actions with MS Word should not have any
influence
to the display drivers.

If my computer acted like that I would suspect a hardware (board, or memory)
problem.
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

Sults said:
Maybe this is somehow related with the fact that I use 64 bit Vista on
Core
2 Duo system?
When I did some research in the Internet using the error message, I found
thousans of messages describing similar problem, so the problem seems to
be
quite common. The error message is BTW "Display Driver has stopped Working
and has recovered". Sometimes it recovers well, but sometimes it seems to
go
into cycle and after 4..5 cycles performes memory dump and restart.


If you have an ATI card, uninstall Catalyst Control Panel and just run with
the drivers. If after doing this, you have no control over dual displays,
download and run DispalyFusion..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
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Sults

cqui3 said:
If my computer acted like that I would suspect a hardware (board, or memory)
problem.

This is ahrd to believe, because in single display mode the system is rock
solid even under constant heavy load (several weeks of constant running with
CPU load 100%).
With dual displays my problem appears even without any load (writing a
letter under MS Word or even when left idle with dual display activated).
Single display mode is absolutely stable with monitor connected either
connector of the video adapter.
Google gives 300000+ results with my error message. This should be driver
issue and maybe issue of the Vista OS.

I should try to use dual display under Knoppix too, if this will be stable,
then it is clear, that Windows system is faulty.
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

Sults said:
This is ahrd to believe, because in single display mode the system is rock
solid even under constant heavy load (several weeks of constant running
with
CPU load 100%).
With dual displays my problem appears even without any load (writing a
letter under MS Word or even when left idle with dual display activated).
Single display mode is absolutely stable with monitor connected either
connector of the video adapter.
Google gives 300000+ results with my error message. This should be driver
issue and maybe issue of the Vista OS.

I should try to use dual display under Knoppix too, if this will be
stable,
then it is clear, that Windows system is faulty.


I run dual displays under Vista with no problem at all, as do many others.
Remove the Catalyst Control Panel..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
 
R

Ringmaster

At work we have about six desktops running dual monitors with Vista
Ultimate both X32 & X64 with mainly ATI vcards with no problems.
First thing to do is to check your vcards web site for the latest
drivers. if you are using the latest drivers then they may have become
corrupted and you should uninstall and reinstall them. Also make sure
you have the proper profiles for both of your monitors and that they are
listed in display settings.

If you insist on lying you need to get your story straight. How can
you be at work when you recently told us your sold your business?

I'm sorry Frank. Really. Your problem is you're such a idiot it is too
easy to point out what a fool you are.
 
S

Sults

Mike Hall - MVP said:
If you have an ATI card, uninstall Catalyst Control Panel and just run with
the drivers. If after doing this, you have no control over dual displays,
download and run DispalyFusion..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx


Ok, did it and so far so good!
Thanks!
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

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Frank

Ringmaster said:
If you insist on lying you need to get your story straight. How can
you be at work when you recently told us your sold your business?

You stupid ignorant fukk! Have bubba google for you, you drunken pile of
useless shit and you'll see that I've said many times that I have a
permanent desk at my former place of business.
I'm sorry Frank.

You should be, or maybe it's the dementia you're suffering from.

Really.

Yeah really! Get some medical help. You do have medical insurance right?
If not maybe the State of Illinois can help.

Your problem is you're such a idiot it is too
easy to point out what a fool you are.

Google makes a complete and utter fool out of you. You are insane...as
we all know.
 
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HeyBub

Mike said:
The ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst utilities ever,
and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first appeared..

So, you're saying the fault lies with a 3rd party bit of software and not
Microsoft as the OP's statement "Please, stop the crap and do some work to
improve stability!" implied?
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

HeyBub said:
So, you're saying the fault lies with a 3rd party bit of software and not
Microsoft as the OP's statement "Please, stop the crap and do some work to
improve stability!" implied?


I am saying that the ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst
utilities ever, and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first
appeared..

--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
 
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Earle Horton

Mike Hall - MVP said:
I am saying that the ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst
utilities ever, and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first
appeared..

It's a good thing that I don't know this, because I am not having any
problems with it. Using it under XP though...
 
D

Duane Hebert

Mike Hall - MVP said:
I am saying that the ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst
utilities ever, and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first
appeared..

I have had Win2k and now Xp installed on my box at home and in both
cases, I've removed the control panel. The
software is bad and the support is hideous.
I Don't have an ATI on my Linux box so I have no idea how well it works.
Is there a Catalyst Control Panel on Linux?
 

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