Why this should be the Win7 newsgroup

[igotsaurus]

Having steadily used Win 7 since the first public I entirely sympathize with
those who label it Vista SP3.
It is not significantly faster than Vista 64 SP2 on the same hardware and
uses the same drivers.
It hiccoughs over many of the same obstacles.
When a device manufacturer, for example Canon, markets a "new printer" but
it uses the same inks as prior generation printers, Canon is doing nothing
more than selling the the old print engine in a new box.
The reason Win 7 came out so "fast" by Microsoft standards is that mostly
they just grafted a tweaked UI onto Vista SP2.
Vista SP2 is the engine that runs Win 7: new or old/new?

 

[Alias]

Having steadily used Win 7 since the first public I entirely sympathize
with those who label it Vista SP3.
It is not significantly faster than Vista 64 SP2 on the same hardware
and uses the same drivers.
It hiccoughs over many of the same obstacles.
When a device manufacturer, for example Canon, markets a "new printer"
but it uses the same inks as prior generation printers, Canon is doing
nothing more than selling the the old print engine in a new box.
The reason Win 7 came out so "fast" by Microsoft standards is that
mostly they just grafted a tweaked UI onto Vista SP2.
Vista SP2 is the engine that runs Win 7: new or old/new?

MS admits it, sorta. Vista is NT 6 and Win 7 is NT 6.1.

I suspect they didn't want to call it Vista SE due to the bad rep Vista got.

Alias

 

[Rich]

because its named microsoft.public.windows.vista.general ?
That why?

Rich

 

[JP]

Here is the deal. Windows 7 is built on the new technology introduced
for use in Vista and offers many new features not found in Vista.
Win 7 has also taken a major step towards the old backwards
compatibility/excessive baggage problem by offering Virtual XP to run
those old apps, if you get one of the three qualifying Windows 7
builds.
So this allows MS to slim down Windows 7 and users get to run old apps
without any compatibility problems.
You can't do that with Vista.

To my understanding Vista did not take full advantage of multiple CPUs
so ubiquitous in the newer PCs. I assume Win7 does and that may account
for much of the reported speed imrovements in Win7. Am I right about
this?

 

[ray]

Having steadily used Win 7 since the first public I entirely sympathize
with those who label it Vista SP3.
It is not significantly faster than Vista 64 SP2 on the same hardware
and uses the same drivers.
It hiccoughs over many of the same obstacles. When a device
manufacturer, for example Canon, markets a "new printer" but it uses the
same inks as prior generation printers, Canon is doing nothing more than
selling the the old print engine in a new box. The reason Win 7 came out
so "fast" by Microsoft standards is that mostly they just grafted a
tweaked UI onto Vista SP2. Vista SP2 is the engine that runs Win 7: new
or old/new?

Shhhhhhhhh! You'll blow the whole secret!

 

[+Bob+]

Then try and purchase Vista SP3. You can't as of yet and when you can,
you'll still have Vista, not Windows 7.

But Windows 7 should have been SP3. That fact is irrefutable. Vista is
broken, and even MS admits it publicly in their commercials.

Windows 7 is built on the Vista engine which was almost an entirely new
OS as compared to XP.

(This is where you prove the point above that Win7 is really SP3 for
Vista).

"...so fast?..." Sorry but Windows 7 came out "on time", which was 3 yrs
after Vista. This is the "normal" new OS cycle for MS. Vista was 5 yrs.

An here you contradict yourself again. See if you can figure it out.

Here is the deal. Windows 7 is built on the new technology introduced
for use in Vista and offers many new features not found in Vista.
Win 7 has also taken a major step towards the old backwards
compatibility/excessive baggage problem by offering Virtual XP to run
those old apps, if you get one of the three qualifying Windows 7 builds.
So this allows MS to slim down Windows 7 and users get to run old apps
without any compatibility problems.
You can't do that with Vista.

In other words, they FIXED aspects of Vista that were broken (SP3).

 

[Alias]

But Windows 7 should have been SP3. That fact is irrefutable. Vista is
broken, and even MS admits it publicly in their commercials.


(This is where you prove the point above that Win7 is really SP3 for
Vista).


An here you contradict yourself again. See if you can figure it out.


In other words, they FIXED aspects of Vista that were broken (SP3).

More like Vista SE. Frank thinking they will continue to support Vista
is pretty stupid considering how all the Vista users are running to Win
7 as fast as they can.

Alias

 

[Jon]

More like Vista SE. Frank thinking they will continue to support Vista is
pretty stupid considering how all the Vista users are running to Win 7 as
fast as they can.

Alias

Running certainly, but *away from*, rather than towards Win 7.

Why would anyone buy something with fewer features than they have already?

 

[Alias]

Running certainly, but *away from*, rather than towards Win 7.

Good point.

Why would anyone buy something with fewer features than they have already?

Another good point.

Alias

 

[KristleBawl]

Alias expressed an opinion:

More like Vista SE. Frank thinking they will continue to support Vista
is pretty stupid considering how all the Vista users are running to Win
7 as fast as they can.

Not all, by far. :-D

 

[Alias]

Alias expressed an opinion:

Not all, by far. :-D

Even dumb **** Frank is running away from Vista even though he used to
call it the "best OS in the world". Anyone who is dumber than Frank and
stays with Vista will get what they deserve: no support.

Alias

 

[Tony UK]

Yes, this is the Vista newsgroup. All new postings for Widonws 7 should be on
the new moderated website, where there are no trolls. It is

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7

Good luck on this present site, I am moving on (to Win 7).

 

[Natéag]

I like it as it is : Vista + Win7.
So much easier to navigate.

 

[milt]

Yes, this is the Vista newsgroup. All new postings for Widonws 7 should be on
the new moderated website, where there are no trolls. It is

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7

Good luck on this present site, I am moving on (to Win 7).

What site are you talking about? This is a newsgroup, not a site. Not
everything is a damn website.

 

[Electro Lytes]

More like Vista SE. Frank thinking they will continue to support Vista is
pretty stupid considering how all the Vista users are running to Win 7 as
fast as they can.

Alias

One thing is certain. Vista users are NOT running to Ubuntu. That is a
FACT.

 

[Alias]

One thing is certain. Vista users are NOT running to Ubuntu. That is
a FACT.

Um, not it isn't a fact. I have nuked Vista so many times and replaced
it with Ubuntu that I've lost track. You really are in fantasy land,
aren't you?

Alias

 

[Electro Lytes]

Um, not it isn't a fact. I have nuked Vista so many times and replaced it
with Ubuntu that I've lost track. You really are in fantasy land, aren't
you?

Alias

So what happens? Vista just keeps getting installed on your computer? What
does it do? Install itself? HA HA HA HA.

The reason you keep installing Vista is because Ubuntu is so ****ed up, you
can't use it for anything useful. That is the reason you needed to keep
installing Vista.

Now you can install Windows 7 once. Get rid of that SHITTY Ubuntu. Ubuntu
isn't good for anything other than wasting time and effort. Oops. Wasting
time is all you do. Never mind.

 

[Alias]

You stupid lying sheep-****ing POS...I'm currently using Vista on three
of my boxes and it runs perfectly.
Vista was the best OS available until Windows 7 came out. It's called
progress *sport*!

I never heard of anyone playing the "progress sport". You're losing it
again.

Anyone who is dumber than Frank and
stays with Vista will get what they deserve: no support.

More of your lies? Point to the official announcement by MS that they no
longer support Vista?

Did I say "official"? If you want to pay MS like a complete fool, yes,
they will instruct you on how to reinstall Vista. If you want support
from peers, you'll just have to ask yourself.

Well...?
Well?

Oops!!! Just another one of your cock sucker lies huh.
Figures!

Please explain the difference between a normal lie and a cock sucker
lie. This might be worth a laugh or two.

Alias

 

[Alias]

So what happens? Vista just keeps getting installed on your computer?
What does it do? Install itself? HA HA HA HA.

The reason you keep installing Vista is because Ubuntu is so ****ed up,
you can't use it for anything useful. That is the reason you needed to
keep installing Vista.

Now you can install Windows 7 once. Get rid of that SHITTY Ubuntu.
Ubuntu isn't good for anything other than wasting time and effort.
Oops. Wasting time is all you do. Never mind.

Once again we are treated to the nymshifter's reading comprehension
impairment.

Yawn.

Alias