why microsoft hides pc games from windows xp media center

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steamKILLER

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we all know windows xp is a great gaming platform and for me by
far the best one
we also know windows xp has many "flavours" and one of them is
windows xp media center which is basically a pc in your living
room doing the tasks many other hardware does
basically it wants to become a all in one solution and for me
it succeeded making it a great idea and product
so we have a multimedia pc for the living room capable of:
doing all the tasks a normal personal computer does
plus the ones microsoft advertises like
playing tv (replacing the need for a tv set)
record tv (replacing the need for a vcr)
playing music (replacing the need for a cd player)
playing movies (replacing the need for a dvd player)
playing radio (replacing the need for a radio)
all of these are family entertainment to use in the living
room... but what about games? isn't games also entertainment
for the all family and also available in the living room?
obviously yes!
so why doesn't windows xp media center also replace in the
living room a console like it does with a dvd player or music
player?
why is microsoft hiding the gaming capabilities of windows xp
media center?
why isn't there not even a single reference to pc games when
advertising windows xp media center when its a product focus
on entertainment?
why is microsoft trying to join a windows xp media center with
their own console as if windows xp is not capable for games or
there are no games made for windows xp?
why is there always reference to the console when advertising
windows xp media center when we all know xp itself is fully game
capable machine with no need for any extra hardware or software?
doesn't it make total sense having in the living room a machine
capable of playing games?
isn't not being in a living room the biggest complain some gamers
have against the pc?
so if windows xp media center is a pc for the living room doesn't
it makes all the sense in the world being a gaming platform?
so why is microsoft hiding it?
the reason is very simple...
microsoft is hiding pc games from windows xp media center and
trying to "bundle" their own console with it is only motivated by
money and not by any request from customers or technical reason or
even being the best solution to us all
with consoles microsoft profits from every software sold and with
windows they don't
the best solution to us customers in having only one hardware in
the living room and that hardware is a windows xp media center and
not adding any console cause its redundant
a console next to a windows xp media center is a waste and totally
superfluous and redundant
two machine with the same function and obviously the one with the
less capabilities and much weaker, the console must go... its
just not needed!
its obvious microsoft is lying to us customers
is lying about media center making us believe it doesn't have
any gaming capabilities when in fact its a great game platform
its like gm advertising to customers they need to buy TWO cars!
one to use during the day and another one to use at night
this attitude from microsoft is only motivated by money and its
damaging to us customers so we should all inform them to change
their way and set the record clean...
buying a console when already having windows xp media center is
a total waste of money! and all customers must know about this!
also its for microsoft own interest promoting windows xp media
center also for games cause sony is trying to promote their new
console as a media center... and let be no doubt... windows xp
media center CRUSHES is a second that new console crap from sony
so let the world all know:
windows xp media center is a gaming platform!
windows xp media center is a great gaming platform!
windows xp media center is the best gaming platform!
long live pc games!
 
K

kurttrail

steamKILLER wrote:

windows xp media center is a gaming platform!
windows xp media center is a great gaming platform!
windows xp media center is the best gaming platform!
long live pc games!

xBox. Do I really need to say more?

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C

Chadwick

steamKILLER said:
what about games? isn't games also entertainment
for the all family and also available in the living room?
obviously yes!

No. Women, children and gays are not allowed to play PC games because
they are too violent.
 
M

Mike Brannigan [MSFT]

David Candy said:
PC invented gaming, consoles are poor imitations.

One of the first commercially successful home gaming consoles Atari
2400/2600 -- 1977?
In 1980 the only well known PC game was the text based "Adventure", very
shortly later there was Zork. In 1981, both Rogue and Wizardry were the
first pc games to use any sort of graphics to define gameplay

So I think it is more appropriate to say that consoles invented home video
gaming.
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"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
PC invented gaming, consoles are poor imitations.
 
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David Candy

Yes we had a tennis console while PCs were only switches and lights (as opposed to keyboards and teletype/monitors) or math only PCs. None the less the current consoles are low quality versions of PC games.

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Mike Brannigan said:
David Candy said:
PC invented gaming, consoles are poor imitations.

One of the first commercially successful home gaming consoles Atari
2400/2600 -- 1977?
In 1980 the only well known PC game was the text based "Adventure", very
shortly later there was Zork. In 1981, both Rogue and Wizardry were the
first pc games to use any sort of graphics to define gameplay

So I think it is more appropriate to say that consoles invented home video
gaming.
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Mike
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"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
PC invented gaming, consoles are poor imitations.
 
C

Chadwick

Chadwick said:
No. Women, children and gays are not allowed to play PC games because
they are too violent.

Just thought I'd better point out that the above is not my opinion, but
that of the OP, Mr SteamKILLER.

He's the resident kook on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, with a talent
for crossposting to groups who haven't met him before. Most of us don't
rise to the bait anymore, so I apologise on behalf of csipga if you
have wasted your time trying to argue with or respond sensibly to him.
And credit to Joe for the grammar lesson, but I'm afraid it's a wasted
effort - we've tried and failed before. It doesn't even seem to worry
him that every post is met with a hail of derision, abuse and contempt.
More commonly these days we try to ignore him.
 
G

Guest

i agree, so much negative opinion, and for what? just have fun with what you
like to do, instead of worrying and complaining about stuff you hate. or
better yet, if he is really concerned, why does he not address it to
Microsoft instead of posting it on forums? act instead of crying like a baby!
:)

and besides, how many Windows-games support splitscreen or several players
 
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Michel Thiffault

Simple. Ever tried to play Prince of Persia while recording TV? I hope you
don't mind that what's your recording will miss some frames (many
actually).
And I have a high-end MCE 2005 (P4 3.2Ghz HT, 1 gig ram, very good video
card).

And Microsoft never hide the fact that MCE is running on XP - which means
that we can run anything we want on them.

Still, I like my consoles better.
 
M

Michel Thiffault

I don't think so. There's a place for consoles. No DirectX update, no
video
card switching every second year, standard controllers, no
troubleshooting,
etc. I will always chose consoles first, PC second for gaming (I still
play
games on PC but not often)
 
B

Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]

Still makes your comment inaccurate though.

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"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
Yes we had a tennis console while PCs were only switches and lights (as
opposed to keyboards and teletype/monitors) or math only PCs. None the less
the current consoles are low quality versions of PC games.

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Mike Brannigan said:
David Candy said:
PC invented gaming, consoles are poor imitations.

One of the first commercially successful home gaming consoles Atari
2400/2600 -- 1977?
In 1980 the only well known PC game was the text based "Adventure", very
shortly later there was Zork. In 1981, both Rogue and Wizardry were the
first pc games to use any sort of graphics to define gameplay

So I think it is more appropriate to say that consoles invented home video
gaming.
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Mike
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"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
PC invented gaming, consoles are poor imitations.
 
D

David Candy

No it doesn't. PC were using light to simulate tennis before consoles.

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Brian Kvalheim said:
Still makes your comment inaccurate though.

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"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
Yes we had a tennis console while PCs were only switches and lights (as
opposed to keyboards and teletype/monitors) or math only PCs. None the less
the current consoles are low quality versions of PC games.
 
B

Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]

"PC invented gaming, consoles are poor imitations"

What did the PC offer compared to the Atari 2600 at the same time?
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"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
No it doesn't. PC were using light to simulate tennis before consoles.

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Brian Kvalheim said:
Still makes your comment inaccurate though.

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"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
Yes we had a tennis console while PCs were only switches and lights (as
opposed to keyboards and teletype/monitors) or math only PCs. None the
less
the current consoles are low quality versions of PC games.
 
A

Allan C Cybulskie

You're a troll. Or insane. Whichever.

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
It's what is available now that's important. Games were invented on the PC.
 
M

Mike Brannigan [MSFT]

David,

I suggest you do some more research - in 1977 we were playing video games at
home on our Atari 2600's.
The PC (IBM clone x86 CPU etc ) had not even been launched.
The only personal computers were devices like the PET or Apple II etc.
(IBM launched the Personal Computer (IBM 5150) in 1981)

Consoles were where video gaming was available to the masses of home users.

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"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
It's what is available now that's important. Games were invented on the PC.
 
D

David Candy

In 1977 I had a pocket computer which I used for horse rating and running a reverse book (although it was supposed to be for electrical calculations).. I have never bought a console (my sisters did). In 1974 I learnt programming on a PC (punchcard storage). Consoles were not americian but English or Japanese things. The consoles were not used as sis 1 bought a vz100 or something (cassette tape storage or more accurately cassette tape non storage as it was rare it coulld be read back) and we typed programs in (tennis and some brick game).

I don't recall a Doom console game, or a Tunnells N Trolls game. I never played text games as they were crap compared to a human dungeon master (I played a lot with graph paper).
 
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Marc L.

post made in a steam-free computer
i said "NO" to valve and steam

And to proper formatting.

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Marc L.

Great suggestion ;)
If MSFT really does this, xbox will be out of business?

Well, they sell an XBox Media Center extender. This system allows
your XBox to display, on your TV, all the media on your Windows Media
PC. However, you HAVE to have a Media Center PC.

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