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[Michael Yardley]

Why cannot Windows be freeware? Was:Re Go ogle is your best friend
try Use net and a web search before posting.

Everybody wants money? Why cannot Windows be freeware like Lunix?

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[Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]]

Because its intellectual property that is proprietary and uses a lot
proprietary technologies not solely owned by Microsoft and a lot of
programmers work on the product and maintain it, also the persons who
support and market the product have to paid to support themselves and their
families and go on vacations.

 

[Michael Yardley]

Because its intellectual property that is proprietary and uses a lot
proprietary technologies not solely owned by Microsoft and a lot of
programmers work on the product and maintain it, also the persons who
support and market the product have to paid to support themselves and their
families and go on vacations.
--
Andre
Blog:http://adacosta.spaces.live.com







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I got to support myself and family too so I use OpenOffice not Word as
its free. Word you have to pay. The Netherlands Gov has just moved to
Freeware Software and Hardware so OpenOffice will get a boost. I do
not want to pay for your vacation.

 

[xfile]

I got to support myself and family too [...]

Good! So someone is going to pay for your services? And how can you
support your family and your vocation if everyone else is going to be like
you just want to take and not to give?

Nothing wrong with making money and it is "how" that is in question.

And I don't think the Netherlands government made the decision solely based
on it is free even though I have no objection for people to use Open Source
software and we use too but Open Source doesn't mean it must be Free!

One can question if MS is too big to endanger the ecosystem of the software
industry and some of its recent practices and product design, but to
question the fundamental principle of today's market economy system that has
been founded and defended by hundreds of thousands of people before us is
simply ridicules.

 

[S.SubZero]

I do
not want to pay for your vacation

But you *fully* expect other people to pay for yours.

What's the word in your language for "hyporcite"?

 

[Scott Roberts]

But you *fully* expect other people to pay for yours.

What's the word in your language for "hyporcite"?

There was a group in the US in the 1960's called the "Diggers" who thought
everything should be free. I wonder what ever happened to those guys.

 

[Kurt Herman]

They all starved to death, trying to find free food.

Kurt

 

[ray]

Why cannot Windows be freeware? Was:Re Go ogle is your best friend
try Use net and a web search before posting.

Everybody wants money? Why cannot Windows be freeware like Lunix?

Linux is not freeware. Linux is Open Source. There are commercial versions
of Linux - Xandros, Linspire, RHEL, SLED, . . .

 

[dennis@home]

Linux is not freeware. Linux is Open Source. There are commercial versions
of Linux - Xandros, Linspire, RHEL, SLED, . . .

Except you can get all the commercial distros free if you want to.
So they are essentially freeware even if they have a price tag.

 

[Bill Yanaire]

Sounds like Windows is just a bit too complicated for you. I think you
should migrate to Ubuntu and Open Source. That seems to be your speed.

Just FYI

 

[ray]

Except you can get all the commercial distros free if you want to.
So they are essentially freeware even if they have a price tag.

Well, that's fine, but they are still not freeware - they are open source
- significant difference.

Yes, you can theoretically have most commercial Linux distros free if you
want to go through the bother of finding, downloading and compiling all
the source code. You will, of course, be missing any proprietary
extensions. That's part of the difference.

 

[dennis@home]

Well, that's fine, but they are still not freeware - they are open source
- significant difference.

Well I would say that open source is a subset of freeware.. it is always
free.
Freeware, of course, isn't always open source.
I'm not to sure what the dictionary definition of the two is ATM.

Yes, you can theoretically have most commercial Linux distros free if you
want to go through the bother of finding, downloading and compiling all
the source code. You will, of course, be missing any proprietary
extensions. That's part of the difference.

From what I have seen the extensions used to be things like installers and
package managers.. which have been replaced by open source alternatives
these days. Even the journaling file systems are now open source. What
proprietary extensions are in common use these days?

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Microsoft software can be freeware very easily.
All you need to do is convince the Microsoft stockholders it is a good
idea.
However my guess they are investing for profit and unlikely to
dedicate all their resources so you can get it for free.

"Everybody wants money?"
And you choose not to be paid for what you do?

There are free options.
Those who insist on not paying have choices.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar

Why cannot Windows be freeware? Was:Re Go ogle is your best friend
try Use net and a web search before posting.

Everybody wants money? Why cannot Windows be freeware like Lunix?

Snipped the SPAM.

 

[Donald L McDaniel]

Well, that's fine, but they are still not freeware - they are open source
- significant difference.

Yes, you can theoretically have most commercial Linux distros free if you
want to go through the bother of finding, downloading and compiling all
the source code. You will, of course, be missing any proprietary
extensions. That's part of the difference.

Additionally, SOMEONE has to pay for the bandwidth you are using to
download the ISOs. You MUST pay for the bandwidth you use, as well as
the electricity necessary to create the ISO, if not the ISOs.

Someone must also pay for the development costs of the Distro. Money
doesn't grow on trees, bud.

The Dutch have a great saying which is EXTREMELY true and applicable
in this situation\:

"Taanstaffl" (meaning "there's no such thing as a 'free lunch'.)
They learned this hard lesson by creating a full 1/3 of their land
area by recovering it from under the North Sea.

Maybe you need to learn the same hard lesson.

Donald L McDaniel

 

[Bob]

Just FYI
Don't start a new thread when responding to a post.

 

[Bill Yanaire]

I didn't start a new thread when responding to a post. I changed the
subject. I am using Outlook express and it shows correctly. By the way,
who appointed you Net Cop? I don't remember authorizing such a position
here in the vista.general group !!!!!


Just FYI

 

[ray]

Well I would say that open source is a subset of freeware.. it is always
free.
Freeware, of course, isn't always open source.
I'm not to sure what the dictionary definition of the two is ATM.


From what I have seen the extensions used to be things like installers and
package managers.. which have been replaced by open source alternatives
these days. Even the journaling file systems are now open source. What
proprietary extensions are in common use these days?

crossover office - which is a commercial extension of wine comes to mind.
Xandros, for example, includes it.

 

[Stephan Rose]

Well I would say that open source is a subset of freeware.. it is always
free.
Freeware, of course, isn't always open source. I'm not to sure what the
dictionary definition of the two is ATM.

No it is not Dennis.

Open source does not mean freeware. There are quite a few Open Source
libraries that charge for commercial non-open source license for example.
So yes, it is "free" as long as what you want to do with it is also open
source. However, if you want to use such a library for a proprietary
project then you have to pay for the license.

--
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[xfile]

Well I would say that open source is a subset of freeware.. it is always

free.

Actually, no.

One of the definitions for Open Source to be frequently used during
purchasing applications is to access source codes and to be able to modify
source codes. This may not be necessary for off-shelf software or software
that will not relate to operation flows (e.g. office, photoshop, etc.), but
it is needed for those that will affect operation and/or production flows, a
simple example will be ERP. When people spent a great deal of money on an
application and when they expect that application will bring distinctive ROI
and competitiveness, they will also want to be able to modify it so it can
perfectly fit into their unique environment.

 

[Mr. Arnold]

They all starved to death, trying to find free food.

Kurt

Or they went dumpseter diving.