Why all the hassle with Windows Update?

[Ytrx]

I just went to Windows Update to download the latest security updates
for one of my PC's. The first time I hit the site, it told me that I
had to download and install new Windows Update software. It didn't
elaborate on exactly what I needed to download or why I needed it. It
simply insisted that I download and install some unknown software. I
complied with the request. Once that was done, the site told me that I
needed to "upgrade some of its components" before I could continue. It
then installed the new version of WGA. After that, I could access the
security updates. However, after rebooting, I went back to Windows
Update just for the hell of it. This time, I got a message stating
that I needed to download and install an ActiveX application before I
could continue. What's up with this? Why do I have to be "hassled by
the man" every time I try to make a move on the WU site?

=Ytrx=

 

[GHalleck]

I just went to Windows Update to download the latest security updates
for one of my PC's. The first time I hit the site, it told me that I
had to download and install new Windows Update software. It didn't
elaborate on exactly what I needed to download or why I needed it. It
simply insisted that I download and install some unknown software. I
complied with the request. Once that was done, the site told me that I
needed to "upgrade some of its components" before I could continue. It
then installed the new version of WGA. After that, I could access the
security updates. However, after rebooting, I went back to Windows
Update just for the hell of it. This time, I got a message stating
that I needed to download and install an ActiveX application before I
could continue. What's up with this? Why do I have to be "hassled by
the man" every time I try to make a move on the WU site?

=Ytrx=

You participated in a thread about these issues on June 13th. It's
just Microsoft making life more difficult for the bona fide, genuine
user while it goes about chasing elusive pirates. Have you heard the
latest? Microsoft is now offering a bounty for anyone who turns in a
software pirate to its software police squad.

 

[][ce]

You participated in a thread about these issues on June 13th.

That may well be true. I don't enjoy chasing my tail whenever I try
to get a simple task done.

It's
just Microsoft making life more difficult for the bona fide, genuine
user while it goes about chasing elusive pirates.

It would seem so. Last month, I didn't have to install anything
before getting my security updates, but this month.. sheesh!

Have you heard the
latest? Microsoft is now offering a bounty for anyone who turns in a
software pirate to its software police squad.

No, actually I haven't heard that one. I guess nothing surprises me
anymore.

Thanks for replying.

=Ytrx=

 

[Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

I just went to Windows Update to download the latest security updates
for one of my PC's. The first time I hit the site, it told me that I
had to download and install new Windows Update software. It didn't
elaborate on exactly what I needed to download or why I needed it. It
simply insisted that I download and install some unknown software. I
complied with the request. Once that was done, the site told me that I
needed to "upgrade some of its components" before I could continue. It
then installed the new version of WGA. After that, I could access the
security updates. However, after rebooting, I went back to Windows
Update just for the hell of it. This time, I got a message stating
that I needed to download and install an ActiveX application before I
could continue. What's up with this? Why do I have to be "hassled by
the man" every time I try to make a move on the WU site?

=Ytrx=

Try posting in microsoft.public.windowsupdate.

 

[Ron Badour]

Have you heard the
latest? Microsoft is now offering a bounty for anyone who turns in a
software pirate to its software police squad.

I have been unable to find an article on this--can you please provide a URL?
I am interested because in my search for an article on this subject, I
stumbled upon the following on the MS web site:

"Unfortunately, Microsoft does not give out any rewards for information on
software piracy."

 

[Poprivet]

You participated in a thread about these issues on June 13th. It's
just Microsoft making life more difficult for the bona fide, genuine
user while it goes about chasing elusive pirates. Have you heard the
latest? Microsoft is now offering a bounty for anyone who turns in a
software pirate to its software police squad.

I don't see that. I also seldom ever have to wait for anything to happen in
order to get downloads of updates. The ones that get bothered are the
paranoid cheaters and outright pirates. Use the system as it's supposed to
be used, or never use it; your problems will then stop.

 

[Poprivet]

You participated in a thread about these issues on June 13th.

That may well be true. I don't enjoy chasing my tail whenever I try
to get a simple task done.

It's
just Microsoft making life more difficult for the bona fide, genuine
user while it goes about chasing elusive pirates.

It would seem so. Last month, I didn't have to install anything
before getting my security updates, but this month.. sheesh!

Have you heard the
latest? Microsoft is now offering a bounty for anyone who turns in a
software pirate to its software police squad.

No, actually I haven't heard that one. I guess nothing surprises me
anymore.

Thanks for replying.

=Ytrx=

Ooooooh, some extra pocket money! Hadn't heard that lie yet!

 

[Poprivet]

I have been unable to find an article on this--can you please provide
a URL? I am interested because in my search for an article on this
subject, I stumbled upon the following on the MS web site:

"Unfortunately, Microsoft does not give out any rewards for
information on software piracy."

Apply Spammer's Rule #1 and you'll have your answer. I don't think he's a
spammer, but the same rule applies.

 

[Mistoffolees]

I have been unable to find an article on this--can you please provide a URL?
I am interested because in my search for an article on this subject, I
stumbled upon the following on the MS web site:

"Unfortunately, Microsoft does not give out any rewards for information on
software piracy."

I have heard something similar as a short blurb over a West Coast news
radiostation but cannot confirm any attribution to Microsoft. However,
checking up on The Software & Information Industry Association website,
there is this offering on reporting piracy ---

http://www.siia.net/piracy/report.asp

Anybody interested in $1M?

 

[Ytrx]

I don't see that. I also seldom ever have to wait for anything to happen in
order to get downloads of updates.

I seldom do as well, but just because you don't see it now doesn't
mean that you won't in the future. I didn't see it on two of my other
systems either, but it's still there waiting in the wings. If you use
manual updates, you'll be forced to install and use the revised
version of WGA. As far as when they'll require you to install
Software Distribution Service 3.0, that's anybody's guess, but rest
assured that everybody will be forced to update at some point.

The ones that get bothered are the
paranoid cheaters and outright pirates.

I don't agree. As a matter of fact, I suspect it's the pirates that
aren't getting hassled since they have patches to get around WGA.

Use the system as it's supposed to
be used, or never use it; your problems will then stop.

Nonsense. How is visiting Windows Update NOT using the system as it
was meant to be used?

=Ytrx=

 

[Lil' Dave]

I just went to Windows Update to download the latest security updates
for one of my PC's. The first time I hit the site, it told me that I
had to download and install new Windows Update software. It didn't
elaborate on exactly what I needed to download or why I needed it. It
simply insisted that I download and install some unknown software. I
complied with the request. Once that was done, the site told me that I
needed to "upgrade some of its components" before I could continue. It
then installed the new version of WGA. After that, I could access the

Kinda twisted tale of events. It told you it would need to download, then,
install, and run WGA.

security updates. However, after rebooting, I went back to Windows
Update just for the hell of it. This time, I got a message stating
that I needed to download and install an ActiveX application before I
could continue. What's up with this? Why do I have to be "hassled by
the man" every time I try to make a move on the WU site?

ActiveX is needed to access your PC properly to see what's installed there,
and, transfer that information data back. Without it, the proper
information can't be ascertained. That information is needed for windows
update to properly list what updates are appropriate for your PC.

Manually downloading MS updates for post XP SP2 doesn't require ActiveX.
Just WGA to check your PC first.

Dave

 

[Poprivet]

I seldom do as well, but just because you don't see it now doesn't
mean that you won't in the future. I didn't see it on two of my other
systems either, but it's still there waiting in the wings. If you use
manual updates, you'll be forced to install and use the revised
version of WGA. As far as when they'll require you to install
Software Distribution Service 3.0, that's anybody's guess, but rest
assured that everybody will be forced to update at some point.


I don't agree. As a matter of fact, I suspect it's the pirates that
aren't getting hassled since they have patches to get around WGA.


Nonsense. How is visiting Windows Update NOT using the system as it
was meant to be used?

=Ytrx=

lol, because it was MEANT to have the updates applied!

 

[Stan]

I don't agree. As a matter of fact, I suspect it's the pirates that
aren't getting hassled since they have patches to get around WGA.

Its just another one of those mindless M$ clones that still follows
the M$ brainwashing doctrine that there have never ever been and never
ever will be any WGA false positives to hassle honest paying customers
of the product. Remember that tired old MVP fish or whatever its name
was that replied every time to an honest paid for owner of XP who had
had the infamous malware WGA go bonkers on them that if they would buy
the software instead of stealing it, they wouldn't have those problems
even though there were masses of messages contributed to this malware
continuously & falsely accusing honest people of being thieves? There
are still M$ clones out there preaching to the unknowing crowds that
the infamous Malware WGA never ever called home and never ever will in
the future even though their master had to come clean two versions
back when they got caught with their panties down around their ankles
laying about the "hidden features" in that version that was passed off
as a critical update with the linkage to its true identity (WGA)
mysteriously missing from the description of the "Critical Update".

And you are correct that pirates are not hassled by the infamous
malware WGA because every time M$ comes out with a new version of the
infamous malware WGA , within a few hours the pirates are posting a
crack/fix or whatever they call them to circumvent the infamous
malware WGA.

How do you rate a company's moral fiber, its honesty?.... By looking
at its track record, by examining its patterns of deployment.

Then when you re-examine those patterns, their cloned followers reply
with denials instead of offering suggestions on how M$ can return to
morality and honesty thus proving that no matter what, the company
once brought before a Senate investigation committee into its
questionable business practices will continue on the same pattern and
its clones will be sent out in droves to defend such patterns while
trying to demonize those that point out the patterns.

Regards,