WHICH PRINTER ?

[Wayne]

Which Printer Inkjet ( Canon, Epson ? ) does the best job on plain papers.
Has the least smudge, sharpest image, and the ink does not rub off? Is
there one ?

 

[Edwin Pawlowski]

Which Printer Inkjet ( Canon, Epson ? ) does the best job on plain papers.
Has the least smudge, sharpest image, and the ink does not rub off? Is
there one ?

Most of what you ask is subjective and will depend on what image you are
printing. Line drawings? Photos?

For most typical plain paper applications such as text, a logo, drawing,
etc, you'd be hard pressed to see much difference between any of the top
brands. I use HP for most of my work, just bought a Canon 6600D for photo
use. IMO, it has a slight edge on photos and I like the individual
cartridges.

In any event, if you are printing images, the difference between plain paper
and the special papers is startling.

 

[Arthur Entlich]

Yes, the Durabrite Epson inks if you are speaking of color, sicn ethey
are all pigment. Or both HP and Canon provide some prinetrs using
pigment black inks.

Art

 

[rafe b]

Which Printer Inkjet ( Canon, Epson ? ) does the best job on plain papers.
Has the least smudge, sharpest image, and the ink does not rub off? Is
there one ?

For cheap plain paper, you're better off
with an HP. Their ink formulation, from
all I can tell, is more viscous than
either Epson's or Canon's and so will
be less susceptible to dot gain on
cheap paper.

Remember, HP owns the "office" inkjet
market. It's not surprising that their
printers would be optimized for that
application. For printing photos on
coated, glossy paper, it's a different
story.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com

 

[Wayne]

Isn't it true that the pigmented inks are much more suceptible to smudging
and rubbing off ?

 

[rafe b]

Isn't it true that the pigmented inks are much more suceptible to smudging
and rubbing off ?

On the wrong papers, yes.

In this case as in any other, the inks
need to be matched to the paper.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com

 

[Wayne]

? Using ordinary paper, no specially coated for inkjet printing.

What do you mean , match the ink with the paper ... I didn't know you could
adjust ink ???

 

[rafe b]

? Using ordinary paper, no specially coated for inkjet printing.

What do you mean , match the ink with the paper ... I didn't know you could
adjust ink ???

I think you know what I mean.

My R1800 will make smudgy prints on
Epson Glossy Photo Paper (eg.,
S041649) but on Premium Glossy
Photo Paper (S041667) smudging is
no problem.

Each manufacturer (with the possible
exception of Lexmark) makes a line
of papers to match specific printers
and inks in their product line.

See Epson's paper-compatibility
chart, for example, here;

<http://tinyurl.com/76eu2>


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com

 

[Arthur Entlich]

Yes, if used on the wrong paper. The question was with using "plain
papers" and Epson pigment inks used on bond papers or proper papers
(non-glossy in most cases) should hold well, as they are both waterproof
and they use a resin similar to aryclic plastics as used in acrylic
paints to adhere them. They are susceptible to scratching on hard
surfaced paper.

Art

 

[Davy]

Just gotta take reliability into consideration here, look through this
NG and see which brands are causing the most problems.

Davy

 

[measekite]

CANON WITH ONLY OEM INK CAUSE THE LEAST PROBLEMS.

DAVY USES CANON

DAVY USES CANON OEM INK ONLY

 

[Gary Tait]

CANON WITH ONLY OEM INK CAUSE THE LEAST PROBLEMS.

But good aftermarket ink (which does in fact exist) doesn't cause any
more problems than OEM, And as Davy say, read around this group to see
what is good and not, of course ingoring what the all caps troll says.

 

[measekite]

@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:




But good aftermarket ink (which does in fact exist)

NOPE
KEEP SMOKIN

doesn't cause any
more problems than OEM,
BULLSHIT

And as Davy say, read around this group to see
what is good and not, of course ingoring what the all caps troll says.

YEAH AND THAT IS WHY HE USES 100% OEM FOR HIMSELF.

ARE YOU A TATER TOT OR A TATER JERK

 

[Frank]

@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:

Pure unadulterated lying bullshit from a know nothing idiot!
Don't believe a word this worthless jackass post.
Frank

 

[Prime]

BULLSHIT

I know you must have data to support this. After all, you claimed that
without statistical numbers >10 printers nobody could prove that
aftermarket ink was OK. So show us the data.

No data? I didn't think so.

 

[Prime]

Pure unadulterated lying bullshit from a know nothing idiot!
Don't believe a word this worthless jackass post.
Frank

He was in a mental hospital after making the aftermarket ink in prison for
10 years. He hates the stuff now and has a phobia. They treat him but he
doesn't take his meds properly.

 

[Prime]

I know you must have data to support this. After all, you claimed that
without statistical numbers >10 printers nobody could prove that
aftermarket ink was OK. So show us the data.

No data? I didn't think so.

No response? I didn't think so.

Yet so much time to insult others. We all know where the credibility is
here.

 

[Davy]

measekitewrote
[quote:b34c7290ca="measekite"]Gary Tait wrote

@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com



CANON WITH ONLY OEM INK CAUSE THE LEAST PROBLEMS




But good aftermarket ink (which does in fact exist

NOP

KEEP SMOKI

doesn't cause an
more problems than OEM

BULLSHI

And as Davy say, read around this group to se
what is good and not, of course ingoring what the all caps trol says


YEAH AND THAT IS WHY HE USES 100% OEM FOR HIMSELF

ARE YOU A TATER TOT OR A TATER JER

DAVY USES CANO

DAVY USES CANON OEM INK ONL

Davy wrote



Just gotta take reliability into consideration here, look throug thi
NG and see which brands are causing the most problems

Dav



[/quote:b34c7290ca][/quote:b34c7290ca

Well now..

ARE YOU LISTNIN... GOOD..

I used OEM ink in the Epsons they still clogged, I got wise see, whe
the 2nd printer started to 'act the goat', little ol' me sai
..."sod this for a gam
of soldiers", I ain't gonna waste expesive ink no Siree

Yes I put my hand up and say I use Canon OEM ink, becoz the printe
don't waste ink and its reliable

One day, I say one day I will try my hand at refilling and thanks t
this NG I've learned not to use universal ink

If you put gasolene in a diesel motor car ain't just ain't gonna g
very far, neither will a printer work if you decide to try fountai
pen ink

My Epson's clogged with OEM ink "nowt at all to do with 3rd part
ink", Yes I use OEM ink but I ain't yelling about folks usin
whatever ink they wish

Boy..... you sure do get hot under da collar - standby the fir
brigade

Dav

 

[measekite]

measekitewrote:

[quote:b34c7290ca="measekite"]Gary Tait wrote:

@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:



CANON WITH ONLY OEM INK CAUSE THE LEAST PROBLEMS.




But good aftermarket ink (which does in fact exist)

NOPE

KEEP SMOKIN

doesn't cause any
more problems than OEM,

BULLSHIT




And as Davy say, read around this group to see
what is good and not, of course ingoring what the all caps troll

says.


YEAH AND THAT IS WHY HE USES 100% OEM FOR HIMSELF.

ARE YOU A TATER TOT OR A TATER JERK

DAVY USES CANON

DAVY USES CANON OEM INK ONLY

Davy wrote:



Just gotta take reliability into consideration here, look through

this


NG and see which brands are causing the most problems.

Davy



[/quote:b34c7290ca][/quote:b34c7290ca]

Well now...


ARE YOU LISTNIN... GOOD...

I used OEM ink in the Epsons they still clogged, I got wise see, when
the 2nd printer started to 'act the goat', little ol' me said
..."sod this for a game
of soldiers", I ain't gonna waste expesive ink no Siree.


*Yes I put my hand up and say I use Canon OEM ink, becoz the printer
don't waste ink and its reliable.*

One day, I say one day I will try my hand at refilling and thanks to
this NG I've learned not to use universal inks

If you put gasolene in a diesel motor car ain't just ain't gonna go
very far, neither will a printer work if you decide to try fountain
pen ink.

My Epson's clogged with OEM ink "nowt at all to do with 3rd party
ink", *Yes I use OEM ink* but I ain't yelling about folks using
whatever ink they wish.


Boy..... you sure do get hot under da collar - standby the fire
brigade.

Davy