Which ATI ?

[Kev]

I'm having _monster_ problems with my Ti 4200 even though I have just bought
a 2.8 P4 Prescott, and new MSI 865PE motherboard. I've got 1GB DDR RAM and
a big PSU. Looking at the prices and benchmarks, it seems that the 128MB
9800 Pro is significantly faster than the 9600 XT
(http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/vga-charts-12.html) for not a
lot more money.

Sapphire Radeon 9600XT Atlantis 256M DDR AGP,ATI9600XT,DVI-I,TV-Out,
Full-Retail = £117.50
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro Atlantis 128MB DDR - Retail = £152.75

I've upgraded the machine ready for Doom 3 / HL2. Anyone have a view on
which of these cards to get ?

Maybe I should stick with the Ti if it's not actually bust ?

Thanks

 

[@ndrew]

I'm having monster problems with my Ti 4200 even though I have just
bought a 2.8 P4 Prescott, and new MSI 865PE motherboard. I've got
1GB DDR RAM and a big PSU. Looking at the prices and benchmarks, it
seems that the 128MB 9800 Pro is significantly faster than the 9600 XT
(http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/vga-charts-12.html)
for not a lot more money.

Sapphire Radeon 9600XT Atlantis 256M DDR AGP,ATI9600XT,DVI-I,TV-Out,
Full-Retail = #117.50
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro Atlantis 128MB DDR - Retail = #152.75

I've upgraded the machine ready for Doom 3 / HL2. Anyone have a view
on which of these cards to get ?

Maybe I should stick with the Ti if it's not actually bust ?

Thanks

The Ti will not do DX9 so you won't see the benefit of the new games
and they will run a lot slower .. I own both the Radeon cards (exactly
the same 9600XT 256 MB and a 9800 Pro 128 both made by Sapphire) and in
truth on the games, I play, I see very little real world difference.
The 9800 Pro looks the better deal of the two .. wish they were that
cheap here in Australia.

regards

@ndrew

 

[Earth Angel]

Sapphire Radeon 9600XT Atlantis 256M DDR AGP,ATI9600XT,DVI-I,TV-Out,
Full-Retail = £117.50
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro Atlantis 128MB DDR - Retail = £152.75

Where are you seeing them for this price? I can see them for ~£160 at ebuyer
and I know they were going for £135 as the weekly special not long ago at
Komplett but don't have time to look anywhere else!

 

[NDF]

Where are you seeing them for this price? I can see them for ~£160 at ebuyer
and I know they were going for £135 as the weekly special not long ago at
Komplett but don't have time to look anywhere else!

Try here :

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/sapphire_ati_graphics_cards.html

NDF

 

[Kev]

The Ti will not do DX9 so you won't see the benefit of the new games
and they will run a lot slower .. I own both the Radeon cards (exactly
the same 9600XT 256 MB and a 9800 Pro 128 both made by Sapphire) and in
truth on the games, I play, I see very little real world difference.
The 9800 Pro looks the better deal of the two .. wish they were that
cheap here in Australia.

Why don't you get Rolf Harris to pick you one up ? LOL

 

[Sham B]

Try here :

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/sapphire_ati_graphics_cards.html

NDF

I can certainly recommend the sapphire 9800 pro on this link, having picked
one from Komplett for 140 pounds delivered a few weeks back.

Note that 'lite' means 'does not come with any software other than the
driver disk, and no printed manual'. But if you're upgrading from a
9500/9600, who cares.

S

 

[@ndrew]

Kev wrote:

Why don't you get Rolf Harris to pick you one up ? LOL

<snip>


Should he speaks Pommie better than me now o)

regards

@ndrew

 

[Kev]

Kev wrote:


<snip>


Should he speaks Pommie better than me now o)

Bet he can and even though he is from Aus, he's a legend over here. I think
that it's fair that he is adored by a number of generations. I had the
pleasure to see him signing books in Sheffield a year or so ago.

 

[john]

I can certainly recommend the sapphire 9800 pro on this link, having
picked one from Komplett for 140 pounds delivered a few weeks back.

Note that 'lite' means 'does not come with any software other than the
driver disk, and no printed manual'. But if you're upgrading from a
9500/9600, who cares.

N1 i might get one myself.Running a gf4800 at the moment so i can put that
in 2nd pc and ditch the old gf2 out of that.

Is it ok to use an 8x gf4 in a 4x only mb?

And are the r9800pro's really as good as everyone says,would i see much
performance gain in an xp2400 nforce2 based system?

 

[Thomas]

N1 i might get one myself.Running a gf4800 at the moment so i can put
that in 2nd pc and ditch the old gf2 out of that.

Is it ok to use an 8x gf4 in a 4x only mb?
Yes

And are the r9800pro's really as good as everyone says,would i see
much performance gain in an xp2400 nforce2 based system?

Yes, when using FSAA / Ani Filtering.

Thomas

 

[DaveW]

You should be using the 45.23 driver with the 4200 card. It is unstable
with the 5x.xx drivers. You didn't say which driver you are using.

 

[Kev]

You should be using the 45.23 driver with the 4200 card. It is unstable
with the 5x.xx drivers. You didn't say which driver you are using.

<snip>

But I've tried that (it's in the posts somewhere) and got the same result.

 

[Darthy]

I'm having _monster_ problems with my Ti 4200 even though I have just bought
a 2.8 P4 Prescott, and new MSI 865PE motherboard. I've got 1GB DDR RAM and
a big PSU. Looking at the prices and benchmarks, it seems that the 128MB
9800 Pro is significantly faster than the 9600 XT

And just think... its even SLOWER than a 2.8Ghz Northwood... and that
the current P4 core/pin package will be dropped in the next few
months.

With the money saved on the faster AMD64 3000 (which is compared to
the intel P4 3.2 and P4 3.2EE (Intel's gaming chip - $900) you could
easily buy the ATI9800Pro...

(http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/vga-charts-12.html) for not a
lot more money.

Sapphire Radeon 9600XT Atlantis 256M DDR AGP,ATI9600XT,DVI-I,TV-Out,
Full-Retail = £117.50
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro Atlantis 128MB DDR - Retail = £152.75

I've upgraded the machine ready for Doom 3 / HL2. Anyone have a view on
which of these cards to get ?

Doom3 and HL2 won't be out for at least another 4~8 months.... A
2.8Ghz CPU?

Maybe I should stick with the Ti if it's not actually bust ?

Perhaps... but why bother with the expensive CPU/RAM setup?

Play UT2003 or current DX8 and DX9 games... an ATI9800Pro is so much
nicer looking... I have both (9800Pro and Ti4200).

 

[Kev]

And just think... its even SLOWER than a 2.8Ghz Northwood... and that
the current P4 core/pin package will be dropped in the next few
months.

With the money saved on the faster AMD64 3000 (which is compared to
the intel P4 3.2 and P4 3.2EE (Intel's gaming chip - $900) you could
easily buy the ATI9800Pro...

Just have