Where is the up button in explorer?

G

Guest

I can't believe something liek this could be forgotten. Let's say I save a
video to Movies\Children\Fall 2005 then the next time I save a movie and I
want to put it in Children\Wrestling I have to jump thru several hoops. No
longer can I jsut click the up arrow. I need to now go to the left pane and
click several things to get to that folder when before all you did before was
click the up button once and then you'd be in the parent.
 
B

bazad

It is gone.
Experiment with drop down buttons in the address area or simply click on
parent folder name there.

Use backspace or Alt-Left Arrow.
 
G

Guest

I can't belive I have to take the time to explain this. I still see people
right click the start button to get to explorer when all they have to do is
hit Windows-E or they hit CTRL-ATL-Delete ot get to the lock workstation
button when all the have to do is hit Windows-L. But not everyone has the
shortcuts printed out and hung up next to their desk.

Why should I have to use the keyboard when my hand is on the mouse? In
addition to that the function was already there. As a programmer I know some
of the basic rules of programming. You don't take away functionality. It
confuses the hoople heads. For the last five years when I only needed to go
up one directory I clicked the up button. And now someone suggest a less
efficent route of taking my hand from the left home position to the right
side of the keyboard.

Seeing as I have all of the patterns and practices books written by
Microsoft sitting on my desk perhaps I can refresh their memory of the lesson
they taught me and now abandoned.
 
P

Paul Smith

Why should I have to use the keyboard when my hand is on the mouse? In
addition to that the function was already there. As a programmer I know
some
of the basic rules of programming. You don't take away functionality. It
confuses the hoople heads. For the last five years when I only needed to
go
up one directory I clicked the up button. And now someone suggest a less
efficent route of taking my hand from the left home position to the right
side of the keyboard.

Clicking on the name of the folder in the address bar simulates 'up' quite
well.

You still only need to click one button.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
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G

Guest

Thanks. But I think I mgiht of altered that when I selected to show the
entire address in the bar. Now when I click up there it reveals the full
path. I am constanlty copying and pasting paths into documents or from one
machine into a remote machine.

Is there a way to have both? If I go to windows classic does that button
come back?
 
G

Guest

I coudl swear I tried that but because there was no previous screen it did
not know where t o take me. I don't know if it was even enabled then.

It is good to see quick responses here.
 
B

Byron Hinson

Paul said:
Clicking on the name of the folder in the address bar simulates 'up'
quite well.

You still only need to click one button.

Not only simulates it well, it's far better.
 
R

Rich Milburn

Hello Phil,
it depends on how you click on the box. If you click on a parent folder,
it should back out to that folder. If you click on the current folder or
after it, or double click (I think, can't get to it right now) then it changes
it to a path.

Rich
 
A

Alexander Suhovey

Rich Milburn said:
Hello Phil,
it depends on how you click on the box. If you click on a parent folder,
it should back out to that folder. If you click on the current folder or
after it, or double click (I think, can't get to it right now) then it
changes it to a path.

Phil,

Here's a couple of screenshots that will help you see what Rich is talking
about:

Click on parent folder/arrow:
http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pM...Lhcx1Lc3jcrdDBgU1hlpvp_e8ZE_N34e6M2ePQp3-gKpk

Click on free space in address bar:
http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pM...dns1iP3At6NYDiaCJ7MYoA-DiftMVBd8WWGRBLzvNkBcE
 
J

Jon Davis

The "Up one directory" button was replaced with the new file path / address
bar. Every directory in the path is a button. Make sure "show full path" is
enabled.

Alternatively, use the keystroke: Alt + Up Arrow (for me it appears to be
the keystroke equivalent of "up one directory"). If you don't like
mouse-clicking, this seems to be the easiest method.

The Folders explorer bar also works as well as ever.

Jon
 
D

Dale

I agree that taking the UP button away was a very bad idea!

Clicking the folder to go up one level doesn't simulate the UP button at
all:

First off, the position in the address bar of the parent folder will change
significantly depending on the length of the folder names in your current
path.

Second, you have to actually read the line and mentally decipher which
segment is the parent to where you want to go.

Third, if you know you have to go up three levels, with the UP button, you
just click 3 times. With the current scheme, where you click will change
for each click requiring you to move the mouse between clicks and deciding
where to move requires at least a quick scan of the entire line and making a
decision of which segment to click for each level you want to go up.

This is another case of simplification gone terribly wrong in Vista.

Dale
 
G

Guest

Jon Davis said:
The "Up one directory" button was replaced with the new file path / address
bar. Every directory in the path is a button. Make sure "show full path" is
enabled.
....
Those are two differnt UI optimized for different things. UP button is
needed and loved by many users. How hard would it be to add the UP button
back in the next SP of Vista? At least expose an option to bring back the
old explorer menu.
It was a poor design choice to remove it. It is very frustrating. New
interface is much slower to use. The reasons are repeated throughtout on
this thread
PLEASE BRING BACK THE UP BUTTON
 
R

Richard Urban

Opinions make the world go around. I love the new way.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

I like it too. I used to get tired of having to step upward one level at a
time. Once you learn what the drop downs are for with the breadcrumbs you
can move around very quickly and accurately.
 
R

Rock

...
Those are two differnt UI optimized for different things. UP button is
needed and loved by many users. How hard would it be to add the UP
button
back in the next SP of Vista? At least expose an option to bring back the
old explorer menu.
It was a poor design choice to remove it. It is very frustrating. New
interface is much slower to use. The reasons are repeated throughtout on
this thread
PLEASE BRING BACK THE UP BUTTON

The new interface does what the up button does just as easily and adds other
functionality. Why is this a problem?
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

All I can figure is that it must be a discoverability issue with some folks.
The up arrow is a neat little icon. The breadcrumbs do not jump out and say
"click on me" the way an icon does. But I would not go back to the up arrow
for anything after having clicked around on the breadcrumbs bar a bit.
 

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