G
Guest
Besides unhiding the SYS files, what else must one do before copying Wxp from
one partition to another?
one partition to another?
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Guest
1:56 PM 5/28/2006
Hi B11:
Yikes!! You raise alot of issues in your two posts yet you do not give much
information such as: Why are you doing this? What are the metrics of your
current hdd? Do you intend to create a dual-boot system? Please give us as
much info as you can. In the meantime, are you able to boot at all?
Mark
Hi B11:
Yikes!! You raise alot of issues in your two posts yet you do not give much
information such as: Why are you doing this? What are the metrics of your
current hdd? Do you intend to create a dual-boot system? Please give us as
much info as you can. In the meantime, are you able to boot at all?
Mark
G
Guest
I can boot partition C. I would like to be able to boot partition F that's on
the same hard drive.
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the same hard drive.
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G
Guest
Yikes!! Still not enough information. The biggest question is, "why do you
feel you need to boot from F: ?? What problem are you trying to solve?
What advantages are you trying to obtain from this? Are you trying to create
a dual-boot system with two different operating systems? I hesitate to try
to help you until I know that my advice will not lead to further problems.
For now I recommend that you NOT try to boot from F:. You have put two very
large gorillas in the same cage so to speak. These gorillas are smart enough
to ignore each other but if they ever did meet, the fur would surely fly.
See this site to get started learning
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...-us/fileio/fs/disk_devices_and_partitions.asp
Especially see "Disk Devices and Partitions".
Mark
feel you need to boot from F: ?? What problem are you trying to solve?
What advantages are you trying to obtain from this? Are you trying to create
a dual-boot system with two different operating systems? I hesitate to try
to help you until I know that my advice will not lead to further problems.
For now I recommend that you NOT try to boot from F:. You have put two very
large gorillas in the same cage so to speak. These gorillas are smart enough
to ignore each other but if they ever did meet, the fur would surely fly.
See this site to get started learning
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...-us/fileio/fs/disk_devices_and_partitions.asp
Especially see "Disk Devices and Partitions".
Mark
G
Guest
I just would like to be able to boot Wxp from another partition!
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G
Gordon
G
Guest
I would like to help you but there is simply not enough information in your
post. You are messing with the architecuture of your hard drive and this
should not be done on a whim. The OS won't boot from the F: drive because it
can't without making some peculiar modifications to the first physical
partition(s) on the hard drive. By copying potentially "activatable" OS
files to a partition beyond the boot boundary, you have stuck a firecracker
right up your wazoo and all you need to do is light the fuse by changing
things in order to try forcing it to boot from there. Luckily, Windows has
many safeguards to protect you from yourself. Carefully delete the files you
have copied to the F partition and go get an X-box or something to occupy
your time.
This is not meant as a criticism. If you are one of those among us who just
likes to see how things work, I applaud you. At one time, someone, somewhere
got laughed at for saying, "what if we make a car with FRONT wheel drive?"
Now most cars are exactly that. However, you will find it much more fun to
obtain a crappy old second-hand computer for your Frankenstien experiments.
post. You are messing with the architecuture of your hard drive and this
should not be done on a whim. The OS won't boot from the F: drive because it
can't without making some peculiar modifications to the first physical
partition(s) on the hard drive. By copying potentially "activatable" OS
files to a partition beyond the boot boundary, you have stuck a firecracker
right up your wazoo and all you need to do is light the fuse by changing
things in order to try forcing it to boot from there. Luckily, Windows has
many safeguards to protect you from yourself. Carefully delete the files you
have copied to the F partition and go get an X-box or something to occupy
your time.
This is not meant as a criticism. If you are one of those among us who just
likes to see how things work, I applaud you. At one time, someone, somewhere
got laughed at for saying, "what if we make a car with FRONT wheel drive?"
Now most cars are exactly that. However, you will find it much more fun to
obtain a crappy old second-hand computer for your Frankenstien experiments.
G
Guest
Copying the files from your C partition to your F partition won't work. Yes,
you can get it to boot, but your applications that were installed on the C
partition wont run from the F partition. You can set up a dual boot, but
that would involve re-installing your applications on the new partition.
So, the question is: Why ??
MD
you can get it to boot, but your applications that were installed on the C
partition wont run from the F partition. You can set up a dual boot, but
that would involve re-installing your applications on the new partition.
So, the question is: Why ??
MD
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Dr. C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T
b11_ said:I just would like to be able to boot Wxp from another partition!
__________________________________________________________________
Hi B11_,
Theoretically you could boot from the F: drive. The thing is, it
would simply be using all the files that are on the C: drive.
When you install an OS or for that matter most modern software,
references to file locations are written into the registry. When you
copied the contents of the C: drive to the F: drive, it did not
automatically change all of those file location references in the
registry.
If you want a dual-boot system, then you need to do an install to
the F: drive. You will also have to do an install of any software
that you want to run under the F: drive.
Ciao . . . C.Joseph
And on the seventh day God said,
"I will rest . . . Murphy take over."
D
David Webb
FWIW, what you say is true of the Windows boot manager, but there are 3rd party
boot managers that can hide other installed OS's, regardless of what type of
partition they happen to be installed on. Using this type, one can clone an
existing OS (installed as the C drive) and then load it on another partition.
The boot manager can hide all other existing OS's so that the chosen partition
becomes C drive. XOSL (a freeware boot manager) has this capability.
See this link for more info on this subject:
Understanding MultiBooting
http://www.goodells.net/multiboot/
Peruse the section titled, "Installing the Boot Manager" for a discussion of the
various boot managers available.
message | b11_ wrote:
| > I just would like to be able to boot Wxp from another partition!
| > __________________________________________________________________
| > "Callmark1" wrote:
| >
| >> Yikes!! Still not enough information. The biggest question is, "why do
you
| >> feel you need to boot from F: ?? What problem are you trying to solve?
| >> What advantages are you trying to obtain from this? Are you trying to
create
| >> a dual-boot system with two different operating systems? I hesitate to try
| >> to help you until I know that my advice will not lead to further problems.
| >>
| >> For now I recommend that you NOT try to boot from F:. You have put two
very
| >> large gorillas in the same cage so to speak. These gorillas are smart
enough
| >> to ignore each other but if they ever did meet, the fur would surely fly.
| >>
| >> See this site to get started learning.
| >>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...-us/fileio/fs/disk_devices_and_partitions.asp
| >>
| >> Especially see "Disk Devices and Partitions".
| >>
| >> Mark
|
| Hi B11_,
|
| Theoretically you could boot from the F: drive. The thing is, it
| would simply be using all the files that are on the C: drive.
|
| When you install an OS or for that matter most modern software,
| references to file locations are written into the registry. When you
| copied the contents of the C: drive to the F: drive, it did not
| automatically change all of those file location references in the
| registry.
|
| If you want a dual-boot system, then you need to do an install to
| the F: drive. You will also have to do an install of any software
| that you want to run under the F: drive.
|
| Ciao . . . C.Joseph
|
| And on the seventh day God said,
| "I will rest . . . Murphy take over."
boot managers that can hide other installed OS's, regardless of what type of
partition they happen to be installed on. Using this type, one can clone an
existing OS (installed as the C drive) and then load it on another partition.
The boot manager can hide all other existing OS's so that the chosen partition
becomes C drive. XOSL (a freeware boot manager) has this capability.
See this link for more info on this subject:
Understanding MultiBooting
http://www.goodells.net/multiboot/
Peruse the section titled, "Installing the Boot Manager" for a discussion of the
various boot managers available.
message | b11_ wrote:
| > I just would like to be able to boot Wxp from another partition!
| > __________________________________________________________________
| > "Callmark1" wrote:
| >
| >> Yikes!! Still not enough information. The biggest question is, "why do
you
| >> feel you need to boot from F: ?? What problem are you trying to solve?
| >> What advantages are you trying to obtain from this? Are you trying to
create
| >> a dual-boot system with two different operating systems? I hesitate to try
| >> to help you until I know that my advice will not lead to further problems.
| >>
| >> For now I recommend that you NOT try to boot from F:. You have put two
very
| >> large gorillas in the same cage so to speak. These gorillas are smart
enough
| >> to ignore each other but if they ever did meet, the fur would surely fly.
| >>
| >> See this site to get started learning.
| >>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...-us/fileio/fs/disk_devices_and_partitions.asp
| >>
| >> Especially see "Disk Devices and Partitions".
| >>
| >> Mark
|
| Hi B11_,
|
| Theoretically you could boot from the F: drive. The thing is, it
| would simply be using all the files that are on the C: drive.
|
| When you install an OS or for that matter most modern software,
| references to file locations are written into the registry. When you
| copied the contents of the C: drive to the F: drive, it did not
| automatically change all of those file location references in the
| registry.
|
| If you want a dual-boot system, then you need to do an install to
| the F: drive. You will also have to do an install of any software
| that you want to run under the F: drive.
|
| Ciao . . . C.Joseph
|
| And on the seventh day God said,
| "I will rest . . . Murphy take over."
G
Guest
2:10 PM 5/29/2006
Yes of course it is possible. As long as the boot files can be accessed by
the boot manager and-or the OS, one could put the OS on any partition
anywhere on the hard drive. For some OS this would mean partitioning a small
space at the physical beginning of the hard drive (before the boot boundary
around sector 3200K) and placing the boot files there. The boot manager also
needs to know what to hide and when. I have had a dual boot system for years
using Partition Magic. At one time I had 3 OS (Win 95, XP and Unix) properly
installed and working fine but only after many time-consuming blunders in my
design.
This poster clearly had no knowledge of what he was doing and the potential
unintended consequences. The fact that he has not posted again might mean
that he is staring at a blue or black screen as we type. In particular he
seemed unaware of anything except that he wanted to boot from F. For that
purpose one could easily just re-assign drive letters and voila!
Dual-booting can´t be all that hard if someone like me can do it (albeit
with 3rd party software). But I would advise anyone attempting to do this to
research very carefully and to know exactly what he or she wants to do and
WHY.
Happy Memorial Day
Yes of course it is possible. As long as the boot files can be accessed by
the boot manager and-or the OS, one could put the OS on any partition
anywhere on the hard drive. For some OS this would mean partitioning a small
space at the physical beginning of the hard drive (before the boot boundary
around sector 3200K) and placing the boot files there. The boot manager also
needs to know what to hide and when. I have had a dual boot system for years
using Partition Magic. At one time I had 3 OS (Win 95, XP and Unix) properly
installed and working fine but only after many time-consuming blunders in my
design.
This poster clearly had no knowledge of what he was doing and the potential
unintended consequences. The fact that he has not posted again might mean
that he is staring at a blue or black screen as we type. In particular he
seemed unaware of anything except that he wanted to boot from F. For that
purpose one could easily just re-assign drive letters and voila!
Dual-booting can´t be all that hard if someone like me can do it (albeit
with 3rd party software). But I would advise anyone attempting to do this to
research very carefully and to know exactly what he or she wants to do and
WHY.
Happy Memorial Day
G
Gordon
Callmark1 said:Happy Memorial Day
Oxymoron, surely?