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Confused

Hey,

All of a sudden the taskbar stopped showing any of the
open windows. I mean, when you run a program or open a
window, usually there is a little button on the taskbar
to correspond, but my taskbar is always blank. I don't
know if this is related or not, but also when I alt-tab,
everyonce in a while my computer will just spontaneously
restart.

Thanks,
Confused as hell
 
All of a sudden the taskbar stopped showing any of the
open windows. I mean, when you run a program or open a
window, usually there is a little button on the taskbar
to correspond, but my taskbar is always blank. I don't
know if this is related or not, but also when I alt-tab,
everyonce in a while my computer will just spontaneously
restart.

Thanks,
Confused as hell

Nothing to be confused about, it's called 'windows' in combination with
'amateur'
 
Peter said:
Nothing to be confused about, it's called 'windows' in combination with
'amateur'

I really think M$ (and the OEMs!) can be blamed for that, not new users.
M$ developed a 3/4-baked, security hole riddled OS that has settings
buried halfway to China, wierd hotkeys and key combinations that do
strange things, stupid accessibility options (for example hold down the
right shift key for 8 seconds and see what happens when you press
Enter), mass-marketed it as an "easy to use" operating system to
everybody and their grandma, made it nearly impossible to get any real
support with a good chunk of it on the shoulders of OEMs (now THAT was
some smart planning on M$'s part! Make the OEMs take the heat!) and we
all know what happens when you call one of them. You get some person in
a 3rd world country making a whopping $2/hr who can barely speak English
after being on hold for 20 minutes.

Some OEMs don't even cover the pre-installed OS and pre-loaded software
they sell you under their warranties, so the average new user is stuck
in the mud when someting goes wrong. Their only option is to hire a tech
or post to one of these groups and risk getting called "amateur" or worse.

Not everyone using a computer is a pro, you know.

Steve
 
In spite of the response you received, this is a peer support group, not a
forum for others to feed their egos be belittling others.

Kelly's site is a good place to start looking for answers to you issue.
Here are two links:

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm

If you're still having trouble after looking there, post back with more
questions/details.

Good luck.
 
Not everyone using a computer is a pro, you know.

I ask you a question, how many people read the instruction first of any
household device they buy?
So maybe amateur is not the right word, but doesn't change the fact that
people think computers will do just anything for them.
This counts for everything, either Windows, Linux, Mac even applications
like Office, Photoshop, WinZip , etc
It's funny that nobody complains when the car has a problem they can't solve
on their own, they just take the car to a garage and pay the bill. If an
operating system doesn't work or is not easy to use they call it a crappy
operating system, yeah right! People have to leave that computer dreamworld
they live in thinking that computers are intelligent, because they're not.

People come with all kind of stupid arguments, for example Linux users say
that Linux applications is free and so are most Linux applications. So what
I say, you might have to pay some money for a Windows OS, but trust me, I
know what I'm talking about when I say that there are more free applications
for Windows than Linux, just have a look at www.snapfiles.com and I can give
you thousands of sites like that. And why would anyone need support? You
must be really blind if you can't find anyone in your social life who
doesn't know a bit about computers. My God, we have a Windows computer in
almost every house nowadays and there are lots and lots of amateur users
everywhere who can help people with the most common problems.

So it's nice to come of with some arguments that are not based on reality.
Anyone who is paying for support or is contacting Microsoft for it is a bit
nuts in my opinion. Companies, that's a different story, but I've contacted
Microsoft 2 or 3 times in all those years as a network administrator and all
my problems were solved very professionally.

And about Windows not being easy, that's an argument of a Microsoft basher.
There is always something that can be improved in any operating system,
there are no perfect operating systems. Microsoft for example has always
greatly supported right mouse clicks, scroll buttons and every new hardware
you can think of, already that fact makes life with a windows computer
incredible easy. I have 4 kids ranging from ages 2-14 and if I see what they
can do with a Windows computer, well then nobody is going to convince me
that a Windows computer is not easy to use, it's just utter bull. It's not
perfect, I totally agree, but it sure isn't too difficult to use especially
when you compare that with any other operating system. The thing is, credit
for those who deserve it and in some areas Microsoft deserves it. Yes, there
are still areas in which they can improve, but that's life, everything and
everybody can improve. I still think that their security can be improved,
but they're working on it. Research (read it this week) has proven that 80%
of Microsoft's security problems are user related. There has never been real
proof that for example Linux is more secure than Windows, there are even
people who say Windows is more secure. You can't just add up all the
security leaks in Windows and compare them with Linux and then come to the
conclusion that Windows is less secure, that's just an example of people not
using their brains. Microsoft is a company that people like to bash, to
hack, to bring negative publicity, they are always a great target for
security attacks and will be for a long time.
 
everyonce in a while my computer will just spontaneously

Go to control panel/system/advanced/startup & recovery (settings) and
unselect the box that reads "Automatically restart".

Next time the computer will not restart, instead you will see a blue screen.
Write down the first 3 lines of text of this error screen and post them in
this newsgroup.
Until then most people can only "guess" what's going on on your computer and
you'll probably going to wait here for an answer for the next few months.
 
I said nothing about Linux in this thread.

I am not bashing M$, they did a great job with Win2K. I don't like the
way XP is out of the box nor the way it has been marketed and supported
by M$ and the OEMs - which HAS been *almost* claiming that computers CAN
do just about anything for people. I don't like bashing anyone or
anything for that matter, but I do speak my mind when I want to. I am
not living in a dream world; I see the reality I wrote about on a daily
basis here, at work and in the community.

Steve
 
which HAS been *almost* claiming that computers CAN
do just about anything for people.

C'mon Steve, do you ever watch TV commercials and they claim in them?
If we talk about computers or Microsoft in this case we can't ignore what's
happening in other areas of our society ;-)
 
At least I gave him a response that is useful, instead of putting
copy/pasting a default answer.
Redirecting people to sites where they can read that
microsodt.public.windows-xp.general is a useful newsgroup or where they as a
beginner are going to be overwhelmed by technical blah, blah is not what I
call help ;-)
 
Peter said:
At least I gave him a response that is useful, instead of putting
copy/pasting a default answer.
Redirecting people to sites where they can read that
microsodt.public.windows-xp.general is a useful newsgroup or where they as a
beginner are going to be overwhelmed by technical blah, blah is not what I
call help

And one that relates to an entirely different set of problems, such as
you gave in your second reply (after merely slanging Windows in your
first) is a great deal less than useful. The tool mentioned at Kelly's
site is one she has put a lot of effort into developing in order to
correct problems such as this one, and is the correct one to use.
 
Yes and yes. From the perspective of the average consumer seeing the ads
saying it can do this and that and the other and even do this and MUCH
MORE, it gives the impression that these computers can do just about
anything. Of course you and I know differently, but the average consumer
doesn't and you know about fish stories, right?

I don't think we're ignoring anything.

Steve
 

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