What should be my next upgrade?

[John Doe]

Well, you guys are all retarded,

Everything is relative.

I appreciate any relevant help on the subject

You get what you pay for.

I STARTED THIS THREAD ON.

It's public property.

Zaphod B, If you dont want to answer
the question I have, why the hell are you posting on my thread
anyway?

You are asking for free help and then you pretend to own the thread.

But seriously.

The best way to get help is probably to ask a genuine question,
hopefully a question that others can benefit knowing the answer
(usually some research helps), and being very clear in your question
and your follow-up questions. Quote relevant text and put your
questions/comments with that.

 

[Charlie Wilkes]

Well, you guys are all retarded, I appreciate any relevant help on the
subject I STARTED THIS THREAD ON. Zaphod B, If you dont want to answer
the question I have, why the hell are you posting on my thread anyway?
But I DO love the quote.

I don't know Zaphod, but I know John from another group, and he's a
kook.

As for your question, someone pointed out that your CPU stands out as
the weak link. I'm a noob with current hardware, but I have been
reading up on the subject at Tom's Hardware and other sites. The
bottom line seems to be that a p4 is much better than a celeron, but
you'll always have a second-rate gaming system with intel inside. For
bragging rights, you need an AMD processor and compatible board.

Corrections welcome if I'm wrong.

Charlie

 

[John Doe]

... you'll always have a second-rate gaming system with intel
inside.

That's nonsense.







Stalker troll.

 

[Charlie Wilkes]

That's nonsense.







Stalker troll.

At least I'm not a nym-shifting troll. Can you imagine what would
happen if a nym-shifting troll became a stalker troll? Things would
get very ugly for a certain John Doe. It could require psychiatric
intervention, not for the first time I'm sure.

Anyway, back up your assertion, John. I'm no expert. I keep looking
at benchmarking data that show AMD well ahead of Intel in multimedia
and games. Intel does much better handling server loads, compression
etc. Should I provide links? It seems trite to do so, because I'm
merely summarizing conventional thinking. YOU are the one who is on
the outs with society. Therefore YOU must provide links and evidence
to support your assertion that what I say is nonsense.

Charlie

 

[John Doe]

Even if an Intel CPU is slightly behind AMD in gaming performance,
Intel and AMD share many of the same add-in parts and many variable
system qualities which have a much larger sum effect on gaming
performance.

If you're fishing for information... you're welcome.

Speaking of being on the "outs with society", Charlie, how much and
how many different drugs are you doing today?

 

[Zapod B]

My reply was responsive to the question asked. The follow-up
question had nothing to do with that question before it and your
reply is out of line. If you want to try to help somebody, put your
reply in context after an appropriate question.

Looks like a nym shifting troll.

Sure don't want to get into a crap slinging contest with you. I gave
advice that I still think is quite valid. That advice was, instead of
the OP wading through the drivel posted on this matter, I suggested he
do some reading and decide for himself. *Note, no self-styled expert
opinion* . That is always the best advice when self-proclaimed experts
crawl out of the woodwork and presume to offer erroneous chapter and
verse on a subject while arguing as to who among them has the best
notion. Gets tiring and confusing in very short order.

No trolling going on here, so go jack it.


--
Zaphod

______________________________________________________
"He grinned two manic grins, sauntered over to the bar
and bought most of it."

**The Restaurant at the End of the Universe**

 

[Zapod B]

As for your question, someone pointed out that your CPU stands out as
the weak link. I'm a noob with current hardware, but I have been
reading up on the subject at Tom's Hardware and other sites.

I rest my case. Here's a person who has done the reading/studying
required in order to make an informed decision.

The bottom line seems to be that a p4 is much better than a celeron, but
you'll always have a second-rate gaming system with intel inside. For
bragging rights, you need an AMD processor and compatible board.

Again note. As I said earlier, component selection for a build is
strictly a *personal* thing to be decided by the builder. Do your own
reading and research.

Corrections welcome if I'm wrong.

You're not wrong. You're absolutely correct *for you* based on your
reading, research and personal wishes.

Charlie

--
Zaphod

______________________________________________________
"He grinned two manic grins, sauntered over to the bar
and bought most of it."

**The Restaurant at the End of the Universe**

 

[Zapod B]

John Doe wrote:

<snipped as trollshit>

John 'Doh', bite me. End of story.


--
Zaphod

______________________________________________________
"He grinned two manic grins, sauntered over to the bar
and bought most of it."

**The Restaurant at the End of the Universe**

 

[John Doe]

Sure don't want to get into a crap slinging contest with you. I
gave advice that I still think is quite valid.

That advice was, instead of
the OP wading through the drivel posted on this matter,

But in fact, the original poster already has four apt replies
directly to his question.

Threads and subthreads are what USENET is all about. If you want
purity, you have to learn to avoid the subthreads that start with an
entire reply like "yes you made it quite clear that you are an ass".

A newsreader that can ignore a subthread is perfect for doing what
you are whining about. Xnews does that and it's free.

I suggested he
do some reading and decide for himself. *Note, no self-styled
expert opinion* . That is always the best advice when
self-proclaimed experts crawl out of the woodwork

If there are experts here, their opinions are hardly out of the
woodwork since that's the kind of opinion we appropriately offer
here in this group.

and presume to offer erroneous chapter and verse on a subject

What subject?

You need to learn how to post in context.

while arguing as to who among them has the best
notion. Gets tiring and confusing in very short order.

No trolling going on here,

Apparently a lot of babbling about nothing. Even if you're not an
expert, you could at least post in context. In other words, go back
up to the request for help and reply there with the other four
replies instead of posting your shame for our alleged lack of help
down here in a thread branch that oozed out of a troll's mouth.

 

[John Doe]

Again note. As I said earlier, component selection for a build is
strictly a *personal* thing to be decided by the builder. Do your
own reading and research.

Oh brother.

That's plainly wrong advice for the original poster's
straightforward technical question (I'm not talking about you
Neocamel, I'm talking about the question as it is written in your
original post).

Zaphod, are you new to USENET?

 

[John Doe]

John Doe wrote:

<snipped as trollshit>

John 'Doh', bite me. End of story.

Zapod B + End of story = comp.sys.mac ?

 

[dawg]

I'd say both your Celeron and you vid card.

 

[Charlie Wilkes]

Even if an Intel CPU is slightly behind AMD in gaming performance,

(Define "slightly"...)

Intel and AMD share many of the same add-in parts and many variable
system qualities which have a much larger sum effect on gaming
performance.

I know there are other important factors. But my point is about the
optimum CPU in a given price bracket. And you have herein conceded
that point, however grudgingly.

If you're fishing for information... you're welcome.

Speaking of being on the "outs with society", Charlie, how much and
how many different drugs are you doing today?

Off topic.

Charlie

 

[Charlie Wilkes]

I rest my case. Here's a person who has done the reading/studying
required in order to make an informed decision.



Again note. As I said earlier, component selection for a build is
strictly a *personal* thing to be decided by the builder. Do your own
reading and research.

Yes. For one thing, the information is easy to find.

You're not wrong. You're absolutely correct *for you* based on your
reading, research and personal wishes.

Well, it's not that subjective, because I don't have experience with a
lot of late-generation machines. I am going by benchmarking data.
But your broad point is valid -- people need to read what's out there
on the web.

As for Usenet, it's a powerful resource, but much different from the
web or a technical manual with an index. Its power can only be
harnessed with a lot of patient reading, including extraneous banter.
And it's hard to abide all the banter and flames unless one is
participating. So, the people who benefit most from Usenet are the
ones who put on a flak jacket and wade in, embracing the chaos.

Charlie

 

[John Doe]

That's just ignorant. Aside from the fact the CPU difference is
slight (if any) and other components greatly overshadow any
difference, any medium to high grade current Intel CPU will run any
current game.