What should be my next upgrade?

N

Neocamel

I'm completly addicted to Counter-Strike, just like anyone who has
played it. Two months ago i baught CS:Source. And was dismayed to
find that upon running the game's built-in Video Stress Test. I can
only average around 42 FPS running at my LCD's native resolution of
1280x1024. I changed the resolution all the way up to 640x480 and only
achieved 58 FPS with all the graphics turned to their minimum. A
moderate gain, but still not the consistent 80-90 FPS I'm looking for.
I just built this computer about 6 months ago and want to know where
the bottleneck in my system is, so I can upgrade. This is what I got.

Intel Celeron 2.4 GHZ Processor
1 GIG Ram
120 MB hard drive
Radeon all-in-wonder 9600 XT video card
ASUS P4P800SE Motherboard
19" Samsung LCD monitor, 8ms refresh

Any help or advice would be GREATLY appreciated!
 
J

John Doe

Neocamel said:
I just built this computer about 6 months ago and want to know
where the bottleneck in my system is, so I can upgrade. This is
what I got.
Intel Celeron 2.4 GHZ Processor
1 GIG Ram
120 MB hard drive
Radeon all-in-wonder 9600 XT video card
ASUS P4P800SE Motherboard
19" Samsung LCD monitor, 8ms refresh
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One thing for sure, if you want the best video performance for a
reasonable price, you do not want an all-in-wonder video card.

Good luck.
 
N

Neocamel

Then what am I looking for? I think I want to go with Nvidia next
cause i wasnt really impressed with the drivers for ati. Also, I'm not
sure if its the bottleneck because the 9600XT was the OFFICIAL video
card for half-life 2, which runs on the same engine as
counter-strike:source
 
J

John Doe

Neocamel said:
Then what am I looking for? I think I want to go with Nvidia next
cause i wasnt really impressed with the drivers for ati.
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I read that often, and it's really too bad, IMO, I would like to see
NVIDIA have better competition.
Also, I'm not sure if its the bottleneck because the 9600XT was
the OFFICIAL video card for half-life 2, which runs on the same
engine as counter-strike:source
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It might not be. I just wanted to point out that the all-in-one
video card is hardly the way to go if you want performance for the
price.

I suspect you'll get other replies here, but another place to ask is
the counterstrike group. Last time I checked, it was huge. Usually
they would know about system requirements for that particular
program/game, maybe at least as well as we can guess here.

Good luck.
 
B

BP

Neocamel said:
I'm completly addicted to Counter-Strike, just like anyone who has
played it. Two months ago i baught CS:Source. And was dismayed to
find that upon running the game's built-in Video Stress Test. I can
only average around 42 FPS running at my LCD's native resolution of
1280x1024. I changed the resolution all the way up to 640x480 and only
achieved 58 FPS with all the graphics turned to their minimum. A
moderate gain, but still not the consistent 80-90 FPS I'm looking for.
I just built this computer about 6 months ago and want to know where
the bottleneck in my system is, so I can upgrade. This is what I got.

Intel Celeron 2.4 GHZ Processor
1 GIG Ram
120 MB hard drive
Radeon all-in-wonder 9600 XT video card
ASUS P4P800SE Motherboard
19" Samsung LCD monitor, 8ms refresh

Any help or advice would be GREATLY appreciated!
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I have no clue about the requirements needed for Counterstrike, but that
Celery sticks out like a zit in an otherwise nice looking system, IMO.
 
C

Conor

I'm completly addicted to Counter-Strike, just like anyone who has
played it. Two months ago i baught CS:Source. And was dismayed to
find that upon running the game's built-in Video Stress Test. I can
only average around 42 FPS running at my LCD's native resolution of
1280x1024. I changed the resolution all the way up to 640x480 and only
achieved 58 FPS with all the graphics turned to their minimum. A
moderate gain, but still not the consistent 80-90 FPS I'm looking for.
I just built this computer about 6 months ago and want to know where
the bottleneck in my system is, so I can upgrade. This is what I got.

Intel Celeron 2.4 GHZ Processor
1 GIG Ram
120 MB hard drive
Radeon all-in-wonder 9600 XT video card
ASUS P4P800SE Motherboard
19" Samsung LCD monitor, 8ms refresh

Any help or advice would be GREATLY appreciated!
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What is wrong with 42FPS? It's very playable still.


CPU. Celerons are shite for gaming.
RAM is OK.
Graphics card is borderline.
 
C

Conor

One thing for sure, if you want the best video performance for a
reasonable price, you do not want an all-in-wonder video card.
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Why? It's the chipset that's important.
 
D

DaveW

Celeron's are MUCH slower than true Pentium's when under load. That's why
they are so much cheaper...
 
S

sbb78247

John said:
Conor said:
Because. For the same price, you can get a much faster card without
all of the non-gaming functions of an all-in-wonder.

And I thought I was stating the obvious.
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yes you made it quite clear that you are an ass
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N

Neocamel

Oh jeez! Threads always lead to two guys going at it! heres another
interesting thing though. My ASUS motherboard comes with jumperfree
overclocking. On counter-strikes video stress test, WITHOUT any
overclocking (2.4ghz) I averaged 50.91 FPS (less than playing the
actual game though) WITH OVERCLOCKING (30% that put me to 3.11GHZ)
after running the video stress test. Guess what my results were....
50.91FPS! That leads me to believe that the bottleneck is elsewhere in
my system. What do you guys think?
 
J

John Doe

A common troll

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N

Neocamel

Are we still talking about my computer problem? or did we get off on a
totally different subject?
 
Z

Zaphod B

Neocamel said:
Are we still talking about my computer problem? or did we get off on a
totally different subject?
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:) These things always get taken over by a couple of "who's got the
biggest dick" individuals. But I digress.

You don't have a computer problem. You simply lack sufficient resources
with your computer to do what you want to do and if you follow this
thread, it's obvious nobody really cares a whit.
There is no generic solution to your situation because it's all about
personal preferences. So, do some reading and make your *own* decisions
for god sake.

--
Zaphod B
_______________________________________________________

"He grinned two manic grins, sauntered over to the bar
and bought most of it."

**The Restaurant at the End of the Universe**
 
S

sbb78247

Neocamel said:
What does that mean!!!>!?!?!?1
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it means:

1) john doe is a pompus ass that thinks he knows everything
2) your vid card while nice is old and not really that fast, but if it
serves your purpose deal with it
3) john is an idiot that gets his jollies posting headers because he thinks
it is acutally a public service.
4) if you want this to run better on the existing board upgrade the cpu to a
pentium class and upgrade the vid card. but by the time you do this, you
are well on the way to the cost of a new board/processor/vid combo of the
a64 variety and that will game better.

HTH, HAND, and GFIA
 
J

John Doe

My reply was responsive to the question asked. The follow-up
question had nothing to do with that question before it and your
reply is out of line. If you want to try to help somebody, put your
reply in context after an appropriate question.

Looks like a nym shifting troll.
 
N

Neocamel

Well, you guys are all retarded, I appreciate any relevant help on the
subject I STARTED THIS THREAD ON. Zaphod B, If you dont want to answer
the question I have, why the hell are you posting on my thread anyway?
But I DO love the quote.
 

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