What languages are already installed?

[Guest]

I have Windows Vista Home Premium in German, which is incredibly difficult to
use... I get multiple pop-up windows when I try to do even basic things like
create a folder or rename a file. When I am organising the Start Menu folders
in Explorer, I get 6 security popups in all just to create a new folder and
rename it, and additional ones for every file I try to move! The default
button has a little sheild on it and says "Fortsetzen" which Babel says means
"continue".

Question 1: Does anyone know what these are or how to get rid of them?

Question 2: How do I find out what language packs or input languages I
already have? In control panel... "Regions- und Spracheoptionen" it lists a
hundred languages in "Aktuelles Format", but although it says English,
everything is still in German. I've set everything to English wherever I find
it, but it doesn't change anything. Does anyone know how to *apply* a Display
Language (if that's what I'm setting), or, how to check what languages are
available?

Question 3: Can I do a fresh install of an English Vista Home Premium
32-bit, and use my product key? Would the English copy need to be an OEM
copy, or could it be any copy? Can I buy a Windows Vista cd in English,
somewhere, but without a licence so it'll be a reasonable price?

I have seen on this forum and on MS website that you can't install language
packs on Windows Vista Home Premium... is this going to change at any time?

It takes me hours to do *anything*; I want to share an external drive on a
network, but, working out which setting is which when it doesn't work is
impossible... Babel Fish isn't up to it! All the anti-virus is in German and
my 2-licence copy of Norton isn't compatible with Vista, so configuring
firewall to let the network work is very time consuming. I'm still doing
basic config, and I've had it a week!

 

[Alias]

I have Windows Vista Home Premium in German, which is incredibly difficult to
use... I get multiple pop-up windows when I try to do even basic things like
create a folder or rename a file. When I am organising the Start Menu folders
in Explorer, I get 6 security popups in all just to create a new folder and
rename it, and additional ones for every file I try to move! The default
button has a little sheild on it and says "Fortsetzen" which Babel says means
"continue".

Question 1: Does anyone know what these are or how to get rid of them?

Question 2: How do I find out what language packs or input languages I
already have? In control panel... "Regions- und Spracheoptionen" it lists a
hundred languages in "Aktuelles Format", but although it says English,
everything is still in German. I've set everything to English wherever I find
it, but it doesn't change anything. Does anyone know how to *apply* a Display
Language (if that's what I'm setting), or, how to check what languages are
available?

Question 3: Can I do a fresh install of an English Vista Home Premium
32-bit, and use my product key? Would the English copy need to be an OEM
copy, or could it be any copy? Can I buy a Windows Vista cd in English,
somewhere, but without a licence so it'll be a reasonable price?

I have seen on this forum and on MS website that you can't install language
packs on Windows Vista Home Premium... is this going to change at any time?

It takes me hours to do *anything*; I want to share an external drive on a
network, but, working out which setting is which when it doesn't work is
impossible... Babel Fish isn't up to it! All the anti-virus is in German and
my 2-licence copy of Norton isn't compatible with Vista, so configuring
firewall to let the network work is very time consuming. I'm still doing
basic config, and I've had it a week!

No, your German key won't work with English media. If you want an
English OS, you'll have to buy it. That said, why don't you consider
Ubuntu. You'll have none of the crap you're experiencing with Vista and
you can install it in any language you want. No activation. No Windows
Genuine Advantage. Ubuntu is FAR less prone to viruses and malware. It's
free and comes with access to over 25,000 free programs. Check it out at
www.ubuntu.com.

 

[Andrew McLaren]

I have Windows Vista Home Premium in German, which is incredibly difficult
to
use... I get multiple pop-up windows when I try to do even basic things
like
it, but it doesn't change anything. Does anyone know how to *apply* a
Display
Language (if that's what I'm setting), or, how to check what languages are
available?

Hi,

Unfortunately, in Vista Home (Basic or Premium) and Business editions, you
cannot change the Display Language. If you have a German copy of Vista Home,
it will *always* display the Windows menus and dialogues in German, and
there's nothing you can do to stop it. You can change the input and keyboard
languages, and run applications which use other langauges, that's no
problem - but Windows itself, will always communicate with you in German.

In Vista Ultimate Edition, you can download and install Multilinguale User
Interface ("MUI") packs, which let you change the Display language to about
15 different languages, including US English (no UK English). Once you
change the display language, all of Windows' own menus and dialogues will be
in the language you specify.

Your main options are to upgrade your existing Vista Home Premium to Vista
Ultimate, via Microsoft's Anytime Upgrade, and then download and install an
English MUI pack via Windows Update.

Windows Anytime Upgrade: Overview
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pr...orupgrade/windowsanytimeupgrade/overview.mspx

Note that you may need to do the Anytime Upgrade *in German*, via
www.microsoft.de ... I don't think there's any option to select a German
Upgrade if you run through the US or International microsoft sites. Not sure
about that ... maybe someone else knows?

The other alternative is to go out and buy an English language copy of
Vista. You would need to install it from scratch, replacing your existing
installation - so, back up your data first, and be ready to re-install your
applications afterwards. You can't "upgrade" over your existing installation
and change language, in the same operation.

As to why Microsoft chose this astonishingly parochial and narrow-minded
approach to languages, I have no idea. It seems amazingly bone-headed,
without any technical motivation, and a denial of today's global reality for
most users ... especially users living anywhere outside the US. I regret, I
can only imagine it really was a cynical ploy to drive a few more Ultimate
sales. I guess Windows product managers can't imagine a world where people
drive from Strasbourg to Frankfurt for the afternoon; and do a bit of crazy
shopping at der techno-mall while they're there.

Sorry for the bad news, but I hope it helps.

 

[D. Solomon]

this is not totally correct since there are kinds 2 language packs

one is totaly UI language change called MUI
and the other is partial language change of the most important UI elements
and
that is called LIP
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/35a1b021-d96c-49a5-8d8f-5e9d64ab5ecc1033.mspx

LIPs are free for everyone... and apply to all versions of vista

 

[D. Solomon]

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/35a1b021-d96c-49a5-8d8f-5e9d64ab5ecc1033.mspx

Windows Vista Language Interface Pack (LIP).? Windows Vista LIPs provide a
translated version of the most widely used areas of the user interface. LIPs
are freely available to download, and most LIPs can be installed and used on
any edition of Windows Vista. Because not all of the user interface is
translated, LIPs require at least one parent language. The parts of the user
interface that are not translated into the LIP language are displayed in the
parent language. When you download a LIP, you get the parent language
requirements for that language. The parent language pack needs to be
installed before the LIP can be installed. For more information, including a
list of languages available for downloading, go to the Microsoft Local
Language website.

 

[Frank]

No, your German key won't work with English media. If you want an
English OS, you'll have to buy it. That said, why don't you consider
Ubuntu. You'll have none of the crap you're experiencing with Vista and
you can install it in any language you want. No activation. No Windows
Genuine Advantage. Ubuntu is FAR less prone to viruses and malware. It's
free and comes with access to over 25,000 free programs. Check it out at
www.ubuntu.com.

The op doesn't sound like he's looking for a toy os so that rules our
anything linux, especially ubuntu.
Frank

 

[Erwin Moller]

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/35a1b021-d96c-49a5-8d8f-5e9d64ab5ecc1033.mspx

Windows Vista Language Interface Pack (LIP).? Windows Vista LIPs provide a
translated version of the most widely used areas of the user interface. LIPs
are freely available to download, and most LIPs can be installed and used on
any edition of Windows Vista. Because not all of the user interface is
translated, LIPs require at least one parent language. The parts of the user
interface that are not translated into the LIP language are displayed in the
parent language. When you download a LIP, you get the parent language
requirements for that language. The parent language pack needs to be
installed before the LIP can be installed. For more information, including a
list of languages available for downloading, go to the Microsoft Local
Language website.

Mr Solomon,

That LIPs offered by Microsoft range from Afrikaans to Zulu, but NO english.
Look at the site:
http://www.microsoft.com/industry/p...ocallanguage/find-a-language.aspx?regid=_all_

See any english?

Bottomline: Forget it.
I am screwed too with a Dutch version. Sucks.

I can't believe M$ isn't offering an english-language switch.
Everybody knows they have it, but for some reason they do not offer it
in a LIP.
'some reason' of course being: M$ want to make $$ by making you buy
another version of Vista that actually does what you paid for.


Regards,
Erwin Moller

 

[Erwin Moller]

this is not totally correct since there are kinds 2 language packs

one is totaly UI language change called MUI
and the other is partial language change of the most important UI elements
and
that is called LIP
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/35a1b021-d96c-49a5-8d8f-5e9d64ab5ecc1033.mspx

LIPs are free for everyone... and apply to all versions of vista

Shame though they don't have an english LIP....
VC, you are stuck with German Vista unless you pay more $$ to get ultimate.

Erwin

 

[Adam Albright]

The op doesn't sound like he's looking for a toy os so that rules our
anything linux, especially ubuntu.
Frank

The "toy" Linux is run on super computers Frankie Numbnuts, once again
proving what a total idiot you are with your off the wall comments you
spit out without thinking.

 

[Alias]

The op doesn't sound like he's looking for a toy os so that rules our
anything linux, especially ubuntu.
Frank

Speak for yourself. You have a hard enough time doing that. You don't
speak for *anyone* else.

Oh, Vista is a POS toy that doesn't work properly and Ubuntu is a real
OS. Live with it.

 

[Erwin Moller]

The "toy" Linux is run on super computers Frankie Numbnuts, once again
proving what a total idiot you are with your off the wall comments you
spit out without thinking.

Hi Adam,

Maybe you better stop wasting your CPU cycles on Frank, allthough I
respect your (and others) strongheadedness in correcting him.

He never ever touched Ubuntu, or any other GNU/Linux for that matter.
Who cares what he thinks?

Frank is beyond repair. ;-)
Completely utterly beyond repair. FOOBAR.

By the way, is he over that annoying 'just FYI'-thingy nowadays?


Regards and have a nice weekend,
Erwin Moller

 

[Vista User]

"Erwin Moller"

Hi Adam,

Maybe you better stop wasting your CPU cycles on Frank, allthough I
respect your (and others) strongheadedness in correcting him.

He never ever touched Ubuntu, or any other GNU/Linux for that matter.
Who cares what he thinks?

Frank is beyond repair. ;-)
Completely utterly beyond repair. FOOBAR.

By the way, is he over that annoying 'just FYI'-thingy nowadays?


Regards and have a nice weekend,
Erwin Moller

Erwin,
Adam can't help himself. It is impossible for him not to respond to Frank.

 

[Frank]

He never ever touched Ubuntu, or any other GNU/Linux for that matter.

Of course I have you idiot! I've installed and played around with at
least a half dozen or more distors over the years. That's why I know,
just as many others know, that linux for the desktop will never go
anywhere...as evidence by the fact that it hasn't.

Who cares what he thinks?

Then why are you bothering to comment?

Frank is beyond repair. ;-)
Completely utterly beyond repair. FOOBAR.

By the way, is he over that annoying 'just FYI'-thingy nowadays?

You moron...that FYI thingie wasn't me.
Learn to read a header or are you beyond repair..hahaha...FOOBAR
Have a nice day!
:-D
Frank

 

[Frank]

The "toy" Linux is run on super computers Frankie Numbnuts, once again
proving what a total idiot you are with your off the wall comments you
spit out without thinking.

Hey mr computer expert...mr genius...we're talking about DESKTOP
application, not servers.
You constantly prove with each and every post just how mentally
incapacitated you are.
Take your meds!
Frank

 

[Frank]

Speak for yourself. You have a hard enough time doing that. You don't
speak for *anyone* else.
Yawn.

Oh, Vista is a POS toy that doesn't work properly and Ubuntu is a real
OS. Live with it.

More lies and bullsh*t from our resident lying linux lovin loser troll!
Get lost as*hole!
Frank

 

[Adam Albright]

Hey mr computer expert...mr genius...we're talking about DESKTOP
application, not servers.
You constantly prove with each and every post just how mentally
incapacitated you are.
Take your meds!
Frank

Leave it to the newsgroup liar to try to back pedal. You didn't
specify desktop systems, donkey breath. You simply made a GENERAL
reference by saying ANYTHING Linux. Look above for proof.

You're simply too easy to slap around. PLEASE have somebody that
finished the 6th grade write for you.

 

[Alias]

More lies and bullsh*t from our resident lying linux lovin loser troll!
Get lost as*hole!
Frank

No, sir, it's the truth. Vista is a piece of sh¡t and Ubuntu is a real
operating system. The fact that you are incapable of installing Ubuntu
and can only use Windows for Dummies says it all about you, Frankie Boy.

 

[Frank]

Leave it to the newsgroup liar to try to back pedal. You didn't
specify desktop systems, donkey breath. You simply made a GENERAL
reference by saying ANYTHING Linux. Look above for proof.

You're simply too easy to slap around. PLEASE have somebody that
finished the 6th grade write for you.

hehehe...well my little Pavlovian lap dog, I'll leave it up to you to
follow me around like the good little puppy dog you are and make sure
everyone knows precisely what I'm referring to.
Oh, and thanks!
Frank

 

[D. Solomon]

I know there is no English lip...

I am just mentioning that such a thing exists. perhaps in the future they
will make one
although I think that is not likely



"Erwin Moller"

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/35a1b021-d96c-49a5-8d8f-5e9d64ab5ecc1033.mspx

Windows Vista Language Interface Pack (LIP).? Windows Vista LIPs provide
a translated version of the most widely used areas of the user interface.
LIPs are freely available to download, and most LIPs can be installed and
used on any edition of Windows Vista. Because not all of the user
interface is translated, LIPs require at least one parent language. The
parts of the user interface that are not translated into the LIP language
are displayed in the parent language. When you download a LIP, you get
the parent language requirements for that language. The parent language
pack needs to be installed before the LIP can be installed. For more
information, including a list of languages available for downloading, go
to the Microsoft Local Language website.

Mr Solomon,

That LIPs offered by Microsoft range from Afrikaans to Zulu, but NO
english.
Look at the site:
http://www.microsoft.com/industry/p...ocallanguage/find-a-language.aspx?regid=_all_

See any english?

Bottomline: Forget it.
I am screwed too with a Dutch version. Sucks.

I can't believe M$ isn't offering an english-language switch.
Everybody knows they have it, but for some reason they do not offer it in
a LIP.
'some reason' of course being: M$ want to make $$ by making you buy
another version of Vista that actually does what you paid for.


Regards,
Erwin Moller

 

[D. Solomon]

thats why they dont have ENGLISH.. because they want the $$




"Erwin Moller"