WARNING: Ubee Cable Modem Died (heat related)


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Skybuck Flying

Hello,

I know this video doesn't proof much, I could make a new one and proof that
it's dead.

But for now this will have to do and you will have to take my word on it:


^ I will now issue an OFFICIAL WARNING straight from Skybuck Electronics
SURVEILLANCE ;) =D

THIS UBEE CABLE MODEM ADAPTER IS B_B_B_B_B_B_B_B_B_B_BAD !

IT WILL FAIL.

AND THEN YOUR INTERNET AND TELEPHONE WILL FAIL.

AND THEN YOU MIGHT BE IN DANGER ! ;)

Advisery:

KEEP OLD CABLE MODEM ADAPTERS AND USE THEM INSTEAD when the new one FAILS.

I managed to keep my internet running and internet telephone too by:

1. Keep old stuff.

2. Using the old stuff when the new stuff failed.

My conclusion is:

The new ubee cable modem adapter is TOO SMALL, it gets TOO HOT.

It's a heat-related FAILURE !

DEATH TO BAD ADAPTERS ! I ALREADY HATE THEM !

The old one is a bit bigger and will hopefully last longer.

I still have to call the ISP to inform them of this DISATER !

And request a new cable modem adapter, plus maybe even a backup cable modem
!

Cause it's the only phone I have... but I guess they might not to do that.

Otherwise maybe I will have to buy the cheapest mobile phone with
"pay-by-usage".

Just in case ! ;) However MOBILE PHONES have turned out to be HUGE SPY
devices and PRIVACY VIOLATION devices, so I do not feel comfortable with
them.

I also DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE with walking around with such a thing. Cause
it could kill me in marvelously unforseen ways. Not paying attention BAM and
your gone.

Nope that not gonna happen to me ! I am sorry, _THATS_ _JUST_ _NOT_ _GONNA_
happen to me ! =D HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LOL.

I'll let that happen to other doofysus.

They have a doofysys education for it ! ;) =D

Bye,
Skydoof ! ;) =D
 
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Paul

Skybuck said:
Hello,

I know this video doesn't proof much, I could make a new one and proof
that it's dead.

But for now this will have to do and you will have to take my word on it:


^ I will now issue an OFFICIAL WARNING straight from Skybuck Electronics
SURVEILLANCE ;) =D

THIS UBEE CABLE MODEM ADAPTER IS B_B_B_B_B_B_B_B_B_B_BAD !

IT WILL FAIL.

AND THEN YOUR INTERNET AND TELEPHONE WILL FAIL.

AND THEN YOU MIGHT BE IN DANGER ! ;)

Advisery:

KEEP OLD CABLE MODEM ADAPTERS AND USE THEM INSTEAD when the new one FAILS.

I managed to keep my internet running and internet telephone too by:

1. Keep old stuff.

2. Using the old stuff when the new stuff failed.

My conclusion is:

The new ubee cable modem adapter is TOO SMALL, it gets TOO HOT.

It's a heat-related FAILURE !

DEATH TO BAD ADAPTERS ! I ALREADY HATE THEM !

The old one is a bit bigger and will hopefully last longer.

I still have to call the ISP to inform them of this DISATER !

And request a new cable modem adapter, plus maybe even a backup cable
modem !

Cause it's the only phone I have... but I guess they might not to do that.

Otherwise maybe I will have to buy the cheapest mobile phone with
"pay-by-usage".

Just in case ! ;) However MOBILE PHONES have turned out to be HUGE SPY
devices and PRIVACY VIOLATION devices, so I do not feel comfortable with
them.

I also DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE with walking around with such a thing.
Cause it could kill me in marvelously unforseen ways. Not paying
attention BAM and your gone.

Nope that not gonna happen to me ! I am sorry, _THATS_ _JUST_ _NOT_
_GONNA_ happen to me ! =D HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LOL.

I'll let that happen to other doofysus.

They have a doofysys education for it ! ;) =D

Bye,
Skydoof ! ;) =D
Ubee used to be called Ambit. They have a web site.

http://www.ubeeinteractive.com/products/cable/voice-gateways/dvw3201b-advanced-wireless-voice-gateway

The power adapters aren't necessarily made at the same production
facilities as the cable modem. The power adapter could be straight from
China, from the lowest bidder.

If you Google the model number of your modem, there may be
reports from other people of power adapter failures. On
some products, these failures are an epidemic. That is
the best way to spot a design or material quality problem.

Paul
 
S

Skybuck Flying

Hi Paul,

Today I called my internet service provider. A man told me I could swap the
defect power adapter at a local store for free.

I will do/try so later today, I think it's a good idea to have a backup
power adapter.

I also asked them if they could send me a backup cable modem.

The guy said they had two models available, however maybe the model numbers
werent completely correct.

A cisco epc 3928 (I think this one might be junk because there is a
fan/ventilator inside of it I don't want that.)

A ubee evw3221 or evw321 (e for europe I guess).

So I researched the options, and said I'll call back. Then a women phoned me
if I wanted to do a tv deal, but rejected cause digital tv receiver never
worked and don't wanna pay extra.

I joked they could send me a new digital receiver, maybe they not too happy
about that joke.

Then later I decided I wanted the ubee, so I phoned back.

This time I got a guy on the phone... he didn't sound to happy about me
trying to select what cable modem they would send me lol.

Then he said the only had the cisco's left and lots of em... but ubee out of
stock and weren't going to purchase them... to bad I like ubee, I never had
a problem with them until the adapter died.

Maybe in the future they will buy netgear 6300, a weird looking modem, I
wonder if there is a fan/ventilator inside of it. It seems to stand up.. I
don't really like the design at first glance, it seems weird.

Anyway I thought about the reason why the power adapter could have failed
and I think I may have figured it out.

Not so long ago the ISP increased the internet speed. This is probably
causing the cable modem to process more packets per second.

I just felt the cable modem today, it seems kinda hot. This additional
processing probably taxed the power adapter so much that it failed.

My guess is the ubee cable modem will soon fail as well because of overheat.
However winter is coming so it might just make it through the winter.

For now we agreed I would call back in january or somewhere begin 2015 to
see if there are any good new cable modems available.

Maybe I will only call if my current cable modem fails.

I had the right to ask for a new cable modem because my current cable modem
does not have wifi capabilities.

So that's why they would send me a new cable modem. So then I could have
two, a main one and a backup.

I already have some older cable modems lying around.. but I would need
activation codes, maybe I have those somewhere... but they don't have phone
capability.

That's the main thing though, I don't wanna loose phone capability.

For now I will see how it goes.

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
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Paul

Skybuck said:
Hi Paul,

Today I called my internet service provider. A man told me I could swap
the defect power adapter at a local store for free.

I will do/try so later today, I think it's a good idea to have a backup
power adapter.

I also asked them if they could send me a backup cable modem.

The guy said they had two models available, however maybe the model
numbers werent completely correct.

A cisco epc 3928 (I think this one might be junk because there is a
fan/ventilator inside of it I don't want that.)

A ubee evw3221 or evw321 (e for europe I guess).

So I researched the options, and said I'll call back. Then a women
phoned me if I wanted to do a tv deal, but rejected cause digital tv
receiver never worked and don't wanna pay extra.

I joked they could send me a new digital receiver, maybe they not too
happy about that joke.

Then later I decided I wanted the ubee, so I phoned back.

This time I got a guy on the phone... he didn't sound to happy about me
trying to select what cable modem they would send me lol.

Then he said the only had the cisco's left and lots of em... but ubee
out of stock and weren't going to purchase them... to bad I like ubee, I
never had a problem with them until the adapter died.

Maybe in the future they will buy netgear 6300, a weird looking modem, I
wonder if there is a fan/ventilator inside of it. It seems to stand up..
I don't really like the design at first glance, it seems weird.

Anyway I thought about the reason why the power adapter could have
failed and I think I may have figured it out.

Not so long ago the ISP increased the internet speed. This is probably
causing the cable modem to process more packets per second.

I just felt the cable modem today, it seems kinda hot. This additional
processing probably taxed the power adapter so much that it failed.

My guess is the ubee cable modem will soon fail as well because of
overheat. However winter is coming so it might just make it through the
winter.

For now we agreed I would call back in january or somewhere begin 2015
to see if there are any good new cable modems available.

Maybe I will only call if my current cable modem fails.

I had the right to ask for a new cable modem because my current cable
modem does not have wifi capabilities.

So that's why they would send me a new cable modem. So then I could have
two, a main one and a backup.

I already have some older cable modems lying around.. but I would need
activation codes, maybe I have those somewhere... but they don't have
phone capability.

That's the main thing though, I don't wanna loose phone capability.

For now I will see how it goes.

Bye,
Skybuck.
You can measure the power used by the cable modem,
with a Kill-A-Watt meter. There are versions for
Europe, with the right plug hole on the front. By using
such a meter, you can determine the power used when
the modem is idle versus when the modem is busy. My
guess is, the power is close to constant (as the
broadband interface needs to be processed no matter
what traffic is carried on it). But your meter
readings will tell you whether it is true or not.

http://www.amazon.com/P3-P4400-Electricity-Usage-Monitor/dp/B00009MDBU

Generally, you won't find fans on things like this.
Fans break easily, and the cheap ones can fail in
as little as one day of operation. Instead, they
try to make circuits which can take the heat.

Keeping the exterior chassis cool, is about the
best you can do for them.

Paul
 
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Skybuck Flying

Why would increased processing show at the power wall socket.

Doesn't really make too much sense to me.

The device could have been created to draw constant power, and simply leak
away unnecessary power.

For example I'd guess my CPU would use max watt if it's at 80% processing
power, yet it generates even more heat at 100% processing power.

Without at least the voltage going further up...

Do you believe that each % of cpu usage would translate into noticeable more
wattage usage ?

If so I'd like to see that proven with a youtube video ;) just to be sure ;)

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
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Paul

Skybuck said:
Why would increased processing show at the power wall socket.

Doesn't really make too much sense to me.

The device could have been created to draw constant power, and simply
leak away unnecessary power.

For example I'd guess my CPU would use max watt if it's at 80%
processing power, yet it generates even more heat at 100% processing power.

Without at least the voltage going further up...

Do you believe that each % of cpu usage would translate into noticeable
more wattage usage ?

If so I'd like to see that proven with a youtube video ;) just to be
sure ;)

Bye,
Skybuck.
If you buy the $20 meter, you can find the answer to all
of these questions you have, by yourself. No Youtube
video needed.

http://www.amazon.com/P3-P4400-Electricity-Usage-Monitor/dp/B00009MDBU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_A_Watt

Paul
 
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Paul

Paul said:
If you buy the $20 meter, you can find the answer to all
of these questions you have, by yourself. No Youtube
video needed.

http://www.amazon.com/P3-P4400-Electricity-Usage-Monitor/dp/B00009MDBU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_A_Watt

Paul
An example of some meters here.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=56287

One of them uses an Analog Devices chip. This helps explain
how the chip can make accurate measurements of power.

http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/data_sheets/ADE7755.pdf

Paul
 
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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

An example of some meters here.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=56287

One of them uses an Analog Devices chip. This helps explain
how the chip can make accurate measurements of power.

http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/data_sheets/ADE7755.pdf

Paul

I use these. They work *real* good.

http://www.amazon.com/Kill-A-Watt-Backlight-Valuable-P3-INTERNATIONAL/dp/B005R1876G

It measures my cubox-i4Pro between idle consumption after boot, which is
about 3 Watts... All the way to full HD rendition with sound and
pumping a full HD HDMI display, which carries it to about midway toward
a whopping 6 Watts.

It tracks it. Now, mind you, this is all the way over onto the input
side of a wall wart supply feed to my machine. I think I might "Silver
Up" that 2 meter DC link. Maybe even shorten it a bit, and interweave
the lines, instead of what we get... mini-zip cords.

I am surprised the feeds from dongles to devices are not getting warm
these days. I mean hell, it is like 24 or 26 Ga in there.

Naw... can't be. It has to carry a couple amps just to feed a USB
standard. It has to be 22 or even 20 Ga at the very minimum.

And my mil TFE sheathed SPC wire will be great for it. That little
bit of silver will shave a few millivolts off of the drop on that line,
not that there is any to speak of, but every little bit helps in this
low consumption project.

Yep, gonna shorten and braid that link, and maybe even can the dongle.

I wonder how many tin hat folks out there have a canned dongle.

I don't... yet.

With a thought toward my current TV show to get into, "The Walking
Dead" (cool show)... "There be gremlins out there" "They likes gettin'
into airplanes too. Causes pilots to lose their hair.



Damned gremlins!
 
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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

It's easy, if you
remember to unplug the power supply before soldering.

Awww... man! You shouldn't have told him that part.
 
M

Maynard A. Philbrook Jr.

11:27 minutes for one lousy blown power supply? You are obsessed. You
also make terrible videos, mumble excessively and don't know how to do
video editing. The cursing and swearing doesn't improve what is left
of your image.

Take it apart and replace the blown capacitor. It's a common problem.
This is a similar Netgear power supply:
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/repair/slides/Netgear DSA-12R-12.html>
Replacing the obviously blown cap fixed it. It's easy, if you
remember to unplug the power supply before soldering.
Unplug it? that takes the fun out of it..


Jamie
 
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rickman

Anyway I thought about the reason why the power adapter could have
failed and I think I may have figured it out.

Not so long ago the ISP increased the internet speed. This is probably
causing the cable modem to process more packets per second.

I just felt the cable modem today, it seems kinda hot. This additional
processing probably taxed the power adapter so much that it failed.
If your electronics feels, "kinda hot", you should have no problem what
so ever. Even commercial gear is rated for 70 C° and should not
experience noticeable failure rates near that temperature. If it were
over 40 C° it would be very uncomfortable to the touch and as it passes
50 C° it would feel like it is burning your skin. But to know for sure
you need to open the box and measure the temperature of the chip making
the heat.

"Kinda hot" usually means it is working well within its parameters and
should offer long service. After all, if you don't want the temperature
to rise some it will need a fan to get rid of the heat. By the
temperature rising 20 or 30 C° it will cool without a fan and still live
a long life.

As others have pointed out, an increased data rate does not imply that
the unit will get noticeably hotter.
 
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rickman

Why would increased processing show at the power wall socket.

Doesn't really make too much sense to me.

The device could have been created to draw constant power, and simply
leak away unnecessary power.

For example I'd guess my CPU would use max watt if it's at 80%
processing power, yet it generates even more heat at 100% processing power.
Two points... the first is that there is no reason to draw power that is
not being used by the CPU and other parts. There is waste heat from the
inefficiency of the power supply, but they don't draw "constant power"
regardless of the CPU draw.

The other is that it doesn't matter what part is drawing the power. All
power dissipated by components in the box will make the box hotter which
is what you are feeling when you touch it.
 
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Dustin

Hi Skybuck.

I know I'm responding to an old post, please overlook that. I
recently subscribed to a few of these newsgroups and this thread came
up. [g]
I know this video doesn't proof much, I could make a new one and
proof that it's dead.
I have checked out your video. It's much longer than is needed to
show us a bad power supply. It's probably just killed a resistor or
something inside of it. You could probably fix it.

I did find the case you have to be interesting though, and not a bad
sized monitor either. Icons all over the place too. Looks something
like my primary setup here, but yours is much much newer.

The swearing and lack of video editing doesn't help you though. I'm a
but of a cuss like a sailor person myself, but I try not to do that
in public or in videos that I'm going to give to the public.
AND THEN YOUR INTERNET AND TELEPHONE WILL FAIL.
In the states (TN specifically in this case), using Charter, We
actually have two entirely seperate cable modems. One is tied into
this network to provide it internet access and the other is tied into
the telephone lines for the house. The only one with an external
power adapter is my cisco cable modem; that provides internet for the
LAN here. The other cable modem has a normal 120volt power cord that
plugs into the back of it. It has a small internal transformer and
supporting AC to DC switching circuitry.
AND THEN YOU MIGHT BE IN DANGER ! ;)
Nah. We have cell phones too. I've never depended on voice over IP
for critical things.
KEEP OLD CABLE MODEM ADAPTERS AND USE THEM INSTEAD when the new
one FAILS.
Just be sure it provides the proper voltage, amperage, and is the
correct polarity. You don't want the previous one to be positive on
the tip and the next one to be negative on the tip. Your device won't
appreciate that.
It's a heat-related FAILURE !
Which is what usually kills electronics. ;p
DEATH TO BAD ADAPTERS ! I ALREADY HATE THEM !

The old one is a bit bigger and will hopefully last longer.
Physical size doesn't guarantee longevity. The internal components
and circuit designs do.
I still have to call the ISP to inform them of this DISATER !
Why? Just ask for another cable modem, it'll come with another power
supply if it needs it, or a cable to plug it directly into your
220volt (You aren't from the states and your power plug isn't blade
style, but round prong, so I'm assuming your 220volt on your outlets.
We're 110-120volt here).
Just in case ! ;) However MOBILE PHONES have turned out to be HUGE
SPY devices and PRIVACY VIOLATION devices, so I do not feel
comfortable with them.
Your computer if improperly used is no different. [g]
I also DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE with walking around with such a
thing. Cause it could kill me in marvelously unforseen ways. Not
paying attention BAM and your gone.
How so? I suppose if the battery pack exploded and you had it to your
head at the time, and the explosion was violent, it could possibly..
injure or kill you... but, I haven't actually observed this nor have
I read about it happening from reliable sources.

Radio waves probably aren't exactly beneficial to be so close to your
head either, but.. I don't have anything solid either way on that.
They have a doofysys education for it ! ;) =D
I really have trouble understanding you at times. It could just be a
language barrier issue though.
 
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Skybuck Flying

"
Skybuck is a persistent troll. Most of us only see him when someone
replies to one of his posts.
"

Just cut out my name "Skybuck Flying" and he'll never know and nag ! LOL.

Bye,
Skybuck =D
 

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