**Warning** Norton AntiVirus 2004

  • Thread starter Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)
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Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)

Norton AntiVirus 2004 **DOES NOT** play well with your pagefile!

I have confirmed, on 7 different computers, that the program interferes with
changing settings of the page file. You can go into the options and choose a
new pagefile size, click the "set now" button and reboot. When the computer
boots up you will find that the pagefile is the "same" size as was
previously, yet the sizing utility indicates that the pagefile is the new
size.

I have checked, and verified, this action in many different ways. It is
repeatable on any computer when I, or others, have installed Norton
AntiVirus 2004 on their computer.

Have any others noticed this strange behavior?

Has anyone found a work-around, or a fix?

I will post back if I come upon the answer!
 
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Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)

That's the easy way out - and a viable "final" solution!

But there is an undesirable interaction, when AntiVirus 2004 is installed,
and as how many hundred of thousands will be upgrading to this version, I
feel that I must at least try to resolve this situation!
 
K

kurttrail

Crusty said:
That's the easy way out - and a viable "final" solution!

But there is an undesirable interaction, when AntiVirus 2004 is
installed, and as how many hundred of thousands will be upgrading to
this version, I feel that I must at least try to resolve this
situation!

Yet another reason not to buy Norton's PA-disabled products.

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 
G

Gary Hegan

Did try going to options in NAV 2004 click auto-protect/advanced and uncheck
load auto-protect during system boot to see if this is the problem.
 
J

John McGaw

Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) said:
Norton AntiVirus 2004 **DOES NOT** play well with your pagefile!

I have confirmed, on 7 different computers, that the program interferes with
changing settings of the page file. You can go into the options and choose a
new pagefile size, click the "set now" button and reboot. When the computer
boots up you will find that the pagefile is the "same" size as was
previously, yet the sizing utility indicates that the pagefile is the new
size.

Did you try changing the setting and THEN installing the program to see
what happens? It seems pretty clear that the program is detecting some sort
of meddling and undoing it -- something like XP's file restore which often
undoes system repairs made quite intentionally. Seems a crazy thing to ask
but have you read the manual, help files, readme files, settings screens
etc? Tried to contact Symantec?
--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]

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djs

x-no-archive: yes

John said:
Did you try changing the setting and THEN installing the program to
see what happens? It seems pretty clear that the program is detecting
some sort of meddling and undoing it -- something like XP's file
restore which often undoes system repairs made quite intentionally.
Seems a crazy thing to ask but have you read the manual, help files,
readme files, settings screens etc? Tried to contact Symantec?

WOW--Norton AntiVirus can protect me from harmful changes to the size of
my paging file! Now I've GOT to get it! LOL

I agree that the piece of garbage is intercepting the change, but I
doubt it's on purpose.
 
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djs

x-no-archive: yes

Frequency of updates doesn't really mean jack. How fast updates for
serious new threats are provided is what counts, not to mention
(obviously) how well the utility can detect and handle malware.

Problems with LiveUpdate are rampant. I've had them just about every
time I used Symantec crapware. And of course, so have many, many other
people.
 
M

Michael

I tried Norton 2004 and all it did was crash XP repeatedly.
Looks like this software finally went down the drain. This is sad because
since I've been using Norton's
for 6 years and I never got a worm or virus.
I had to boot into Safe Mode just to uninstall the crap. When I reinstalled
2003 everything went back to normal. I will never purchase another antivirus
from Symantec
 
G

Gary Hegan

Doesn't crash my WinXP system. I have had NAV since version 2.0 and have
never had a problem with any of them. I know some people have.
 
P

P.X. Twitt

Try deleting the pagefile prior to restarting your system, and see if it is
recreated to the new size.
 
C

CZ

I have confirmed, on 7 different computers, that the program interferes
with
changing settings of the page file. You can go into the options and choose a
new pagefile size, click the "set now" button and reboot. When the computer
boots up you will find that the pagefile is the "same" size as was
previously, yet the sizing utility indicates that the pagefile is the new
size.

I have checked, and verified, this action in many different ways. It is
repeatable on any computer when I, or others, have installed Norton
AntiVirus 2004 on their computer.


Crusty:

I have the same issue.
Resizing does not work, and deleting the file via dual boot does not work
either.
Registry has the custom settings as you mentioned in another post.
Apparently, NAV 2004 is causing the op sys to ignore any custom setting and
to use the recommended setting only.
 
C

Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)

I tried that already. I use 2 smaller page files, one on partition C: and
one on partition I: (each 500 meg).

I initially thought that was it. BUT....on 1 out of three boots, the
pagefile has actually disappeared from the hard drive (on partition C:) AND
from the "virtual memory size" readout on the performance options/advanced
window. If you go one click deeper, to where you would change the pagefile,
you see that the selection is still set for a 500 meg pagefile on both Drive
C: and on drive I:.

On other boots, the page file has been physically "relocated", on drive C:,
to the very end of the partition. Reboot again, without doing a damn thing,
and the pagefile is back where it initially was, near the beginning of the
partition. At other times, it is just gone!
 
C

Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)

I'm glad (not really) that I am not hallucinating this whole condition. I
have been playing with this for 3 days now. I have a drive image that I
created just prior to installing AntiVirus 2004. I have reverted to that
image about 25 times to try something else, to no avail!
 
N

NoNoBadDog!

I have Norton Antivirus 2004 Pro and do not have this issue at all. I can
change pagefile settings quite easily on both my HDDs.

Bobby
 
C

Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)

<sigh>

I sure wish there was a way to compare the different systems - in total. I
may find out that it is some obscure program loaded on the 7 computers I
know about, that is causing the conflict with the page file.

Do you have Aida32? Would you consider sending me a copy of the generated
report for your system so I can compare?

Thanks!
 
N

NoNoBadDog!

Crusty;

I have both Aida32 and Belarc Advisor installed. Which components do you
want in the report and where should I send them?

Bobby
 
G

Greg P Rozelle

My system does that. I have Norton Antivirus 2003.

I will get rid of Nortons Antivirus part, but still keep a couple
of other things like clean sweep and Ghost. I will not update them.

Symantec has said they received few complaints about activation.


If anyone need the Symantec mail address & phone number
Here it is.
World Headquarters
Symantec Corporation
20330 Stevens Creek Blvd.
Cupertino, CA 95014
tel +1 408 517 8000

Greg P Rozelle


<sigh>

I sure wish there was a way to compare the different systems - in total. I
may find out that it is some obscure program loaded on the 7 computers I
know about, that is causing the conflict with the page file.

Do you have Aida32? Would you consider sending me a copy of the generated
report for your system so I can compare?

Thanks!


Disclaimer
My advice is as-is. It could trash your system.
 
D

djs

x-no-archive: yes

You can't delete the paging file while Windoze is running. But it's
worth a try if the deletion attempt occurred outside of Windoze.
 
D

djs

NoNoBadDog! said:
I have Norton Antivirus 2004 Pro and do not have this issue at all.
I can change pagefile settings quite easily on both my HDDs.

So can he--the difference is, his settings are being ignored or
overridden. Does your paging file actually change to reflect your
changed settings?
 

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