W98SE or ME

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This is probably out of place here. I have W98 on my PC, and want to upgrade
to W98SE or ME. I cannot use XP as my PC speccification is'nt good enough
etc. Have people any views, which is the most stable W98se or the ME.
Sorry if this is not a 'freeware' issue, but people here tend to be helpful,
and more knowledgeable than me about technical issues.. Without a lot of
the Open Source programmes, I have learned about here, I could never have
managed a lot of the voluntary work I do. Thanks to All. John
 
John said:
This is probably out of place here. I have W98 on my PC, and want to upgrade
to W98SE or ME. I cannot use XP as my PC speccification is'nt good enough
etc. Have people any views, which is the most stable W98se or the ME.
Sorry if this is not a 'freeware' issue, but people here tend to be helpful,
and more knowledgeable than me about technical issues.. Without a lot of
the Open Source programmes, I have learned about here, I could never have
managed a lot of the voluntary work I do. Thanks to All. John
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ME is definitly the more stable platform.
 
I think you will get fans of both John.

10 ways to make ME run better
http://content.techweb.com/winmag/windows/features/merunbetter/default.htm

WinMe: Enabling DMA
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=642

How to run Windows ME well
http://www.burzurq.com/forum/trevtweak.html

Improving boot times .
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwdev/archive/newPC/fast-boot.mspx

Windows Me Tips
http://www.windows-help.net/windowsMe/tips.html

oppcom
http://www.beta10.com/oppcomme.htm
Windows optional component maker "oppcom" for Windows ME, returns
control of your computer Back To You, the person that paid for it. By
adding scripts to windows that put back in the ability to remove the
programs that come built into Windows ME. Oppcom does not remove these
components. It gives you the power to remove them, or put them back, it
lets YOU decide what you want running on YOUR computer.

WinME System Tweaking Guide
http://www.tweak3d.net/tweak/winme/
http://www.threatenedspecies.org.au/tutorials/microsoft/windowsme/
http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=guide&dId=66
http://thetechnozone.com/pcbuyersguide/software/system/winmetips.htm
http://www.techspot.com/tweaks/windows/index.shtml
http://www.totalidea.com/freestuff3.htm
http://dhost.info/kyeu/mirror/blackviper/WinME/supertweaks.htm

Windows Millennium Edition Tips
A how to guide for setting up WindowsME
http://www.members.accessus.net/~090/awh/winmetip.html

Windows ME + MS-DOS 8.00 ©Tweaks, Secrets, BUGs + FIXes
http://members.aol.com/axcel216/

ME on processor , smaller than P200 .
setup /nm
http://www.windowsreinstall.com/reinstall/setupswitches.htm

You can get real DOS mode back in ME by using this patch
http://www.geocities.com/mfd4life_2000/

Or , use these
http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1
http://members.home.nl/mabus/dfend.htm

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Ten Ways to Make Windows 98 Run Better
http://content.techweb.com/winmag/windows/features/98runbetter/default.htm
http://thor.prohosting.com/~1cls/win98.htm
 
Hello, John!
You wrote on Sat, 09 Jul 2005 23:09:16 GMT:
This is probably out of place here. I have W98 on my PC, and want to
upgrade to W98SE or ME. I cannot use XP as my PC speccification is'nt
good enough etc. Have people any views, which is the most stable
W98se or the ME. Sorry if this is not a 'freeware' issue, but people
here tend to be helpful, and more knowledgeable than me about
technical issues.. Without a lot of the Open Source programmes, I
have learned about here, I could never have managed a lot of the
voluntary work I do. Thanks to All. John
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For my personal experience, Win98SE gives many less problems of stability:
ME is the worst o.s. ever released by Microsoft.
Install Win98SE and also use this unofficial but excellent service pack:
http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html

Kindly regards.
 
This is probably out of place here. I have W98 on my PC, and want to upgrade
to W98SE or ME. I cannot use XP as my PC speccification is'nt good enough
etc. Have people any views, which is the most stable W98se or the ME.
Sorry if this is not a 'freeware' issue, but people here tend to be helpful,
and more knowledgeable than me about technical issues.. Without a lot of
the Open Source programmes, I have learned about here, I could never have
managed a lot of the voluntary work I do. Thanks to All. John
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In my book, the scale tips slightly in favor of Win ME. Remember,
though, that at first it will seem a bit alien. It doesn't have a DOS
mode, for example (though that can be overcome). It's system
boot disk is a quite different animal. It will be far more dificult to
get used to than '98SE.

With care and regular maintenance, both can be very stable and
trouble-free. But again, I think ME has the edge.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
John said:
This is probably out of place here. I have W98 on my PC, and want to
upgrade
to W98SE or ME. I cannot use XP as my PC speccification is'nt good enough
etc. Have people any views, which is the most stable W98se or the ME.
Sorry if this is not a 'freeware' issue, but people here tend to be
helpful,
and more knowledgeable than me about technical issues.. Without a lot of
the Open Source programmes, I have learned about here, I could never have
managed a lot of the voluntary work I do. Thanks to All. John
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Windows 98 SE, by far the most stable non-NT (NT, 2000, XP, 2003) Windows
version.
I hate Windows ME.


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<[0G]ftwilli> told you Linkin Park was talking about sex the whole
time..."
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np: After Forever - Yield to Temptation
 
ME is slighlitly more up-to-date than 98SE, obviously, but if you plan on
running DOS programs (ah, the good old games like Sam 'n' Max) definetly
take 98SE. Otherwise, as said before, ME is slightly better, but more or
less the same thing.
 
Quite a good discussion here.

http://www.sixfiles.com/forum/viewtopic16877.html?start=0
http://www.sixfiles.com/forum/viewtopic16877.html?start=15
http://www.sixfiles.com/forum/viewtopic16877.html?start=30
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John, thanks for the data in your prevous post, and for listing the long
thread above. It takes a lot of time to digest the good data in them.

I put 2XExplorer on my ME puter, so now the P166 and 700 MHZ puters look
the same. When I have a problem on the ME one, will have to learn how to
deal with it, as some handy W98 fixes don't apply.

As I've said before, W98SE is for me extremely stable and reliable.

Mike Sa
 
John said:
This is probably out of place here. I have W98 on my PC, and want to
upgrade to W98SE or ME. I cannot use XP as my PC speccification
is'nt good enough etc. Have people any views, which is the most
stable W98se or the ME. Sorry if this is not a 'freeware' issue, but
people here tend to be helpful, and more knowledgeable than me about
technical issues.. Without a lot of the Open Source programmes, I
have learned about here, I could never have managed a lot of the
voluntary work I do. Thanks to All. John
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I would lean toward W98SE. If your computer meets specs for WinME it
should be pretty close for W2K which is a far superior OS to either of
them.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/professional/evaluation/sysreqs/def
ault.asp
 
This is probably out of place here. I have W98 on my PC, and want
to upgrade to W98SE or ME. I cannot use XP as my PC speccification
is'nt good enough etc. Have people any views, which is the most
stable W98se or the ME. Sorry if this is not a 'freeware' issue,
but people here tend to be helpful, and more knowledgeable than me
about technical issues.. Without a lot of the Open Source
programmes, I have learned about here, I could never have managed
a lot of the voluntary work I do. Thanks to All. John
Click to expand...
98SE.
 
Quite a good discussion here.

http://www.sixfiles.com/forum/viewtopic16877.html?start=0
http://www.sixfiles.com/forum/viewtopic16877.html?start=15
http://www.sixfiles.com/forum/viewtopic16877.html?start=30
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WinME got a bad reputation, but much of it is undeserved.

Win98SE was the bug fixed Win98. In a sense, it is what Win95 should have
been. Lean and runs fast on older hardware. However, if you install much
software, it will eventually die, because many programs replace system dlls
and break Windows.

WinMe has system file protection, where system DLLs are invisibly replaced
each time an installer changes them. This gives ME massive long term life.
For instance, I installed and uninstalled 100s of games on my kid's ME
computer and it did not die - which is absolutely imppossible on 98SE.
Win98 at work needed a couple of reinstalls every year - changing to ME has
stopped that.

WinME has a good range of device drivers for printers, display cards and
other peripherals. This is not to be underestimated, because a lot of nice
gadgets just run on ME.

WinME has system restore points which let you wind the system back to how it
was before you installed some evil program which messed up Windows. System
restore seems to slow down the computer, so I turn it off and have not
missed it.

I have seen computers which run 98SE but crash on WinME. The problem is
that WinME uses RAM differently and so the problem really was bad RAM or
motherboard. I and a friend have done roughly 100 ME installs and have a
lot of respect for ME.

The only time I go back to 98SE is when the system is very low powered. ME
requires a 150MHz Pentium and 32 MB RAM minimum.

Summary :

Win98SE and runs fast but dies. WinME with system restore turned off is a
little slower, runs more software and hardware and will soldier on for
years.

Roger
 
Hi John!



I think, it is not an upgrade going from 98 to 98SE or ME.

Probably the best and fastest MS-OS is Windows NT4. 60MHz is enough.
Windows XP is very well too, but as you said, Hardware Requirements are
not O.K. 1000MHz, 512MB RAM and so...

Why not using NT4? A good OS for Freeware user.
Also Windows 95 is better than 98/ME, IMHO!

If you need USB, NT4 is not a good choice, as there is no official USB
driver.
Windows 95 have a C and a B Version with USB-Support.

Win95 is faster than Win98! Nt4 is the fastest, till now, but only
DirectX3. OpenGL is open with NT, depends to the GfXCard.




Well, it is very difficult for me to give a suggestion between 98SE and
ME, because I personally dislike this two at most. Both are very
difficult to optimize and so full with features (ACPI, APM,
IRQ-Sharing...) that they run more cycles with the CPU than needed.
At 2000 and XP you can at least disable such things at the install
phase and ALSO after setup, NT4 don´t have such extra weights at all,
you must not take care about.

Maybe Windows Millenium is the better for Internet user (NT4 would do,
too). Win98SE for the gamer (XP is even better).




Kind Regards,

Daniel Mandic
 
Win98SE and runs fast but dies. WinME with system restore turned off
is a little slower, runs more software and hardware and will soldier
on for years.
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I had exactly the opposite experience. 98 for me was slower and stupider.
ME boots faster and runs longer without crashing. It has a better TCP/IP
stack and better hardware support.

Use the excellent tool OPPCOMME to uninstall all the added crap and bloat
that ME brings with it and you'll have a lean, fast OS that will blow the
doors off of 98. OPPCOMME is available here:


www.beta10.com
 
I use win me on 2 PC and last installation was many years
agoo ! can't remember. And that while doing many silly things like
tweaking registry, removing IE, installing lots of freeware, playing,
removing & reinstalling graphic cards and drivers ! removing viruses,
etc, etc.

Some times the ability of going back to a previous system state
will save your ass, which is not possoble in win 98 SE. So my
experience
shows this is not the worst OS ever made.


Lh
 
This is probably out of place here. I have W98 on my PC, and want to
upgrade to W98SE or ME. I cannot use XP as my PC speccification is'nt
good enough etc. Have people any views, which is the most stable
W98se or the ME. Sorry if this is not a 'freeware' issue, but people
here tend to be helpful, and more knowledgeable than me about
technical issues.. Without a lot of the Open Source programmes, I
have learned about here, I could never have managed a lot of the
voluntary work I do. Thanks to All. John
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You will get a variety of opinions. I found Win ME very stable and it is
still running on my wife's PC (which is marginal for XP).
One annoying feature was booting to the DOS prompt was disabled, but that
can be fixed by a patch to command.com. I only upgraded because I needed a
program which would only run with XP.
 
Many Thanks to you all who responded. I've learned a lot I think, and
probably will try W98Se for the time being. It does mean that some software
etc can be updated on this old PC. My PC is getting too old, and dare I say
I need a more up to date specification. Next stop W2000 or XP from what you
all suggested, on a newer PC. Maybe try Linux for the experience on ths
older one, when I have moved on. That would be interesting, and a learning
curve for me.

Thanks again for all your help !

John
 
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