VS2005 a dog?


H

Hilton

Hi,

Is it just me or is VS2005 a real dog performance-wise? It is soooooo much
slower to compile and seems to access the HD very often. I have lots of
memory and all other apps are fine. The editor seems worse too, but the
performance is horrendous. I now write the code using VS2003 and compile
using VS2005 only when I have too; e.g. to run on the Smartphone.

As a test, a Rebuild All of my project just took 58 seconds (VS2005) for the
first build, and sequent build alls took 15 seconds (VS2005). Then I tried
VS 2003, first Rebuild all took 6 seconds, subsequent ones too 4 seconds!!!

Are there any patches to VS2005 that I should know about?

Thanks, I'd like to hear if others have the same experience with VS2005.

Hilton
 
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H

Hilton

I just found VS2005 SP1, I'm download it now (431MB) and I'll get back with
results.

Hilton
 
H

Hilton

After downloading 431MB, apparently I had already installed SP1. I chose to
re-install and as expected, no improvement in performance. I wish Microsoft
would have "SP1" in their About Box instead of SP.[a whole bunch of
numbers].

OK, enough ranting for one day, back to VS2003.

Hilton
 
G

Guest

I've not seen an appreciable difference with managed apps (though I didn't
have any large apps that I timed), but native apps definitely compile much
slower. However I think the IDE is better than '03, so I live with the pain
and compile often to make sure each compile touches the least amount of
stuff.

I too hope that compile time is looked at closer with Orcas.


--

Chris Tacke, Embedded MVP
OpenNETCF Consulting
Managed Code in an Embedded World
www.OpenNETCF.com
 
H

Hilton

Chris,

I am amazed that a sign-off metric is not 'compilation speed', or even
'compilation not an order of magnitude slower'. VS2005 is *much* slower is
practically everything, seems like everything is loaded in first, compile
times of 58 seconds versus 6 seconds (VS2003). Also, while it took me a few
minutes to configure the VS2003 editor, I still haven't figured out how to
configure the VS2005 (to what I want and had in VS2003). If VS2003 could
compile for the SmartPhone, I'd dump VS2005 in a heartbeat.

I used to work at [Company X] who developed a Java IDE and very few people
in the company used it because it was slow and doggy (albeit with a good
feature set); one engineer even resorted to using Notepad instead (I kid you
not). I feel like VS2005 is my new doggy Java IDE and I really don't like
it.

[Hilton throws out a challenge to Microsoft folks...]
Hey Microsoft, you're the ones who go on about optimizing things and using
profiling tools to shave off microseconds here and there. Please let me
know what logic you used to justify releasing VS2005. Is it OK that a 6
second compile in VS2003 takes 58 seconds in VS2005? Did you change from C
to COBOL? Help me understand this. Phew, I feel better now.

Hilton
 
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Guest

I must say I don't find the compile time much different from VS2003 in fact I
might go as far to say it might be faster although I haven't timed it. What I
do find painfully slow is device debugging, via the emulator or the device. I
find the device slightly faster.

Having said this, VS2005 is much more feature rich, it does alot more than
VS2003 did, so naturally it will be slower on the same hardware as VS2003 is
running on.

I think you can compile Smart Phone on VS2003 btw - not 100% as I never
target smart phone.

You know you can today write managed OO COBOL apps. I used to work very
closely with the guys at Micro Focus.
--
Simon Hart
http://srhartone.blogspot.com


Hilton said:
Chris,

I am amazed that a sign-off metric is not 'compilation speed', or even
'compilation not an order of magnitude slower'. VS2005 is *much* slower is
practically everything, seems like everything is loaded in first, compile
times of 58 seconds versus 6 seconds (VS2003). Also, while it took me a few
minutes to configure the VS2003 editor, I still haven't figured out how to
configure the VS2005 (to what I want and had in VS2003). If VS2003 could
compile for the SmartPhone, I'd dump VS2005 in a heartbeat.

I used to work at [Company X] who developed a Java IDE and very few people
in the company used it because it was slow and doggy (albeit with a good
feature set); one engineer even resorted to using Notepad instead (I kid you
not). I feel like VS2005 is my new doggy Java IDE and I really don't like
it.

[Hilton throws out a challenge to Microsoft folks...]
Hey Microsoft, you're the ones who go on about optimizing things and using
profiling tools to shave off microseconds here and there. Please let me
know what logic you used to justify releasing VS2005. Is it OK that a 6
second compile in VS2003 takes 58 seconds in VS2005? Did you change from C
to COBOL? Help me understand this. Phew, I feel better now.

Hilton



I've not seen an appreciable difference with managed apps (though I didn't
have any large apps that I timed), but native apps definitely compile much
slower. However I think the IDE is better than '03, so I live with the
pain and compile often to make sure each compile touches the least amount
of stuff.

I too hope that compile time is looked at closer with Orcas.


--

Chris Tacke, Embedded MVP
OpenNETCF Consulting
Managed Code in an Embedded World
www.OpenNETCF.com
 
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