Vista

G

Glenn

I know some of you like Vista but I may have to dump it and go buy a fresh
XP Pro. This permissions crap is getting out of hand.

I finally got some of the permissions to work including permission in full
for many people including "everyone" on this "C" drive. That doesn't seem
to satisfy it. I even had to get permission to access "Documents and
Settings" on this machine. OK, I went through that BS and got in. Then I
tried to look farther into that file that I have permission to use and it
forced me to get permission for it. It was a sub directory in the
subdirectory I already got permission for. I have since looked and there
are numerous sub folders inside that permitted directory that require more
permission.

PS Under the permissions listing it says under "C" that I have full access
to all of the drives and subdirectory and files. BS The above paragraph
shows tain't true.

I have about had it.
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

Glenn said:
I know some of you like Vista but I may have to dump it and go buy a fresh
XP Pro. This permissions crap is getting out of hand.

I finally got some of the permissions to work including permission in full
for many people including "everyone" on this "C" drive. That doesn't seem
to satisfy it. I even had to get permission to access "Documents and
Settings" on this machine. OK, I went through that BS and got in. Then I
tried to look farther into that file that I have permission to use and it
forced me to get permission for it. It was a sub directory in the
subdirectory I already got permission for. I have since looked and there
are numerous sub folders inside that permitted directory that require more
permission.

PS Under the permissions listing it says under "C" that I have full access
to all of the drives and subdirectory and files. BS The above paragraph
shows tain't true.

I have about had it.


How to turn off UAC..

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2006/...le-user-account-control-uac-in-windows-vista/
 
R

Rick Rogers

Hi Glenn,

Why is it you feel you need to be able to access a junction point? That
"folder" isn't a directory (did you notice the shortcut on it?), it's simply
a redirection point to the C:\Users folder. It's there for backwards
compatibility with older software hardcoded to expect it to be there -
there's nothing in it because it's not a directory. It's like a street
sign - you don't need to own it to follow the direction it gives.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
 
G

Glenn

Where did you get the idea that any directory (location, whatever you want
to call it) should be no access to me, the owner of the darned thing. It
contains records, just for instance, of past email news groups that I may
want to delete. ETC. I wish to never see that NO ACCESS sign again, ever.
Surely there is a setting that will eat the darned thing for lunch and I
will hear nothing but a burp.
 
A

Alias

Glenn said:
I know some of you like Vista but I may have to dump it and go buy a fresh
XP Pro. This permissions crap is getting out of hand.

I finally got some of the permissions to work including permission in
full for many people including "everyone" on this "C" drive. That
doesn't seem to satisfy it. I even had to get permission to access
"Documents and Settings" on this machine. OK, I went through that BS
and got in. Then I tried to look farther into that file that I have
permission to use and it forced me to get permission for it. It was a
sub directory in the subdirectory I already got permission for. I have
since looked and there are numerous sub folders inside that permitted
directory that require more permission.

PS Under the permissions listing it says under "C" that I have full
access to all of the drives and subdirectory and files. BS The above
paragraph shows tain't true.

I have about had it.

MS doesn't want you to have control. Note the change from "My Computer"
to "Computer". If you want to control your operating system, check out
the free operating system called Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/ Not
only is it free, it comes with access to thousands of free programs.

Alias
 
G

Glenn

Is that not Lenox? I getting feed up enough to try it. The guy who made up
my new puter advised me to stay away from Vista but I didn't have enough
sense to follow his advice.
 
B

B. Smith

Glenn said:
Is that not Lenox? I getting feed up enough to try it. The guy who made
up my new puter advised me to stay away from Vista but I didn't have
enough sense to follow his advice.

Wait till you get to play with permissions in ubuntu.
better learn what chmod does.

As a test, try to update firefox from within firefox in ubuntu.
Or, try to theme it !
LOL
 
A

Alias

Glenn said:
Is that not Lenox?
Linux.

I getting feed up enough to try it. The guy who
made up my new puter advised me to stay away from Vista but I didn't
have enough sense to follow his advice.

Don't let the Microsoft fanboys dissuade you from checking out Ubuntu.
They lie. If you have any problems with Ubuntu, email me by unmunging my
email address.

Alias
 
P

PaulB

Junctions e.g. "documents and settings" are not real folders. they just
point to and allow legacy programs to operate with Vista's folder system. The
real folder are contained in c:\users.
 
D

Drew

I agree with Alias and say go for the whole Linux experience. That way when
you end up throwing your computer in the trash and go back to windows. You
might be more inclined to understand what people are telling you and not
listening to the paranoid individuals such as Alias and the so called "tech"
that built your system
 
C

C.B.

Glenn said:
Is that not Lenox? I getting feed up enough to try it. The guy who made
up my new puter advised me to stay away from Vista but I didn't have
enough sense to follow his advice.

If you don't like Vista you should move on to a different OS. It's that
simple.

C.B.
 
G

Glenn

C.B. said:
If you don't like Vista you should move on to a different OS. It's that
simple.

C.B.

While that is true, I paid good money for something that has a lot of hidden
idiosyncrasies that I thought someone would have answers to. Guess you
don't but thanks anyway.
 
B

B. Smith

Glenn said:
While that is true, I paid good money for something that has a lot of
hidden idiosyncrasies that I thought someone would have answers to. Guess
you don't but thanks anyway.


Go try linux.
Idiosyncratic will gain new meaning.
Its another world in linux.
Takes 3 days to theme ubuntu...lol.
Its makes a good time killer.
All unemployed people should try it.
 
L

LesleyO

Glenn said:
I know some of you like Vista but I may have to dump it and go buy a fresh
XP Pro. This permissions crap is getting out of hand.

I finally got some of the permissions to work including permission in full
for many people including "everyone" on this "C" drive. That doesn't seem
to satisfy it. I even had to get permission to access "Documents and
Settings" on this machine. OK, I went through that BS and got in. Then I
tried to look farther into that file that I have permission to use and it
forced me to get permission for it. It was a sub directory in the
subdirectory I already got permission for. I have since looked and there
are numerous sub folders inside that permitted directory that require more
permission.

PS Under the permissions listing it says under "C" that I have full access
to all of the drives and subdirectory and files. BS The above paragraph
shows tain't true.

I have about had it.


It must be the way you have things set up. I've had no difficulty with
permissions, and I'm a 66-year-old woman!
 
G

Glenn

LesleyO said:
It must be the way you have things set up. I've had no difficulty with
permissions, and I'm a 66-year-old woman!

No doubt!! That said, I'm a 77 yr old man and I have been using computers
since 1976 so I'm not completely computer illiterate.
 
L

LesleyO

Glenn said:
No doubt!! That said, I'm a 77 yr old man and I have been using computers
since 1976 so I'm not completely computer illiterate.


;) Yep, punch tape. Took my first computer lesson in '72. I hear you!
Lesley
 
D

Drew T

I installed Ubuntu 8.10 on a Virtual Machine last week. The first thing I
attempted to do, like I always routinely do on a Windows Virtual Machine is
to install the 'VM Tools'. I spent one hour trying to install a basic
application which I never accomplished. Totally turned off, I immediately
deleted the Ubuntu Virtual Machine. I periodically install Linux to see how
far it's progressed but until Linux is even remotely as user friendly as
Windows or the Mac it will never take off.

Drew T.
 
M

MKR

Interesting exchange here. I agree with the notion that sounds here from
some: Vista is a nuisance, one way or the other. I still have this same
problem with permissions. I runs me mad! I have now cut off UAC and I hope
it helps a bit. To say this again. MS has to few or no user oriented
programmers/developers. These academics there DO NOT know what users really
need. It was totally unnecessary to change almost everything and gain a
totally bloated OS. MS should change its policy and tell every employee
(incl. Steve Ballmer) to think user oriented - with that they can make real
good money. Sorry, but this has to be said although the MVPs probably and
completely disagree - but they are MS MVPs what else. They cannot under the
given policies at MS talk against MS!

Glenn, you are so right! Does not help but I am - we are users!

MKR
 

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