Vista won't install or boot with more then 3gb ram

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AMD

Why won't vista install or boot with more then 3gb ram?

my brother in law has 4 gb ram. It starts with a G I think. Intel E6600 dual
core. asus p5n32-sli-e motherboard.

vista home premium. also another person posted the same hardware cept didn't
say what board he has. he had ultimate vista. same problem.

when installing vista it won't get past the scrolling bar from the boot dvd.
it bsod. both people get same error. the ram is good too. you boot from dvd.
then it starts to show you the scrolling bAR WHILE IT TRIES TO LOAD the boot
dvd. it bsod everytime with all 4gb in the pc. take out one stick of ram for
4gb it works fine. put in stick of ram to make it 4gb after it is installed
and it won't boot up at all. take ram out for 3gb only and it works fine.
all ram is 100% good.
 
F

Frank

AMD said:
Why won't vista install or boot with more then 3gb ram?

my brother in law has 4 gb ram. It starts with a G I think. Intel E6600
dual core. asus p5n32-sli-e motherboard.

vista home premium. also another person posted the same hardware cept
didn't say what board he has. he had ultimate vista. same problem.

when installing vista it won't get past the scrolling bar from the boot
dvd. it bsod. both people get same error. the ram is good too. you boot
from dvd. then it starts to show you the scrolling bAR WHILE IT TRIES TO
LOAD the boot dvd. it bsod everytime with all 4gb in the pc. take out
one stick of ram for 4gb it works fine. put in stick of ram to make it
4gb after it is installed and it won't boot up at all. take ram out for
3gb only and it works fine. all ram is 100% good.

I believe that's a mobo problem, not an OS problem, that has to do with
the type of RAM being used in the mobo. That'll happen even though all
the RAM is good. Ck with your mobo manufacturer and make sure the RAM
you are attempting to use is listed by the mobo manufacturer as for use
with that particular mobo.
I had the same problem with an old BX6 mobo running XP. That last stick
killed the boot and the RAM I was using was good but not on the list of
the manufacturer as being for that mobo.
Frank
 
A

AMD

Frank said:
I believe that's a mobo problem, not an OS problem, that has to do with
the type of RAM being used in the mobo. That'll happen even though all the
RAM is good. Ck with your mobo manufacturer and make sure the RAM you are
attempting to use is listed by the mobo manufacturer as for use with that
particular mobo.
I had the same problem with an old BX6 mobo running XP. That last stick
killed the boot and the RAM I was using was good but not on the list of
the manufacturer as being for that mobo.
Frank


well the articlre my brother in law read has all his parts listed so it
shouldn't be a problem. with xp it's fine i think, but not 100% sure. The
article was pcmag or something that was like $1500 for a gaming pc that he
went by part for part. i don't know which article he went by.

if asus does not list this ram on their web site that does not eman it is
incompatible per say. i have used many pcs with no issues where the ram is
not listed on the mobo web page. so anyhow, how do you proove the ram is at
fault? if it's not vista i mean. how can you proove this is a mobo issue?
 
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Spocks Buddy

Hello... Frank is not fully evolved yet so don't blame him for saying
foolish things.... he doesn't even have vista installed!

You should download a bootable CD linux distro, like KNOPPIX that is free.
You can also try ubuntu or pclinuxos.. you can find all these at
www.distrowatch.com

If you boot with knoppix from the cd and it boots up correctly showing all
your ram,
then it is clearly a vista specific problem....

I would not be surprised at all... I have seen some very strange things
happening with vista.
 
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Spocks Buddy

I want to add.... that these are live cd's.. in other words they run from
the cd alone without installing anything on your hard drive. So this way you
can test your hardware without causing any problems

Tell me if this helps.
 
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Frank

Spocks said:
Hello... Frank is not fully evolved yet so don't blame him for saying
foolish things.... he doesn't even have vista installed!

You should download a bootable CD linux distro, like KNOPPIX that is free.
You can also try ubuntu or pclinuxos.. you can find all these at
www.distrowatch.com

If you boot with knoppix from the cd and it boots up correctly showing all
your ram,
then it is clearly a vista specific problem....

I would not be surprised at all... I have seen some very strange things
happening with vista.

Can't answer the OP's question huh? Who would have thought!
You need to dl a brain but I don't think you could figure out how to do
that even if one was available.
Also the OP is a gamer in which I case I don't think linux will do.
Of course you forgot to read that part right?
Frank
 
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Spocks Buddy

the linux is to test his hardware and compare the results with vista. I
would suggest XP but that would mean he would have to install it.... Im not
talking about playing games with linux or even using it other than a
diagnostic tool.

Tell me now , do you really have vista? I think you dont!
 
R

Richard Urban

You prove the RAM is not at fault by substituting quality RAM in the amount
you wish. If you still can't boot it is a M/B problem.

I have the same situation. I have 3 RAM slots, 2 of them are for dual RAM.
If I install another gig in the 3rd slot I can't boot or even install the
O/S from scratch. I have to live with that fact or get a new M/B.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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Spocks Buddy

you can probably make them work if you tweak the speed settings of the ram
in the bios...

but I guess you didnt know that did you?
 
P

Peter Foldes

Frank

As much as I agree that Spock Buddy is a troll and many other things his call for the OP to use Knoppix to check his issue as described with Vista or any other Windows OS was a correct call.
 
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Spocks Buddy

Calling me a troll is like saying Martin Luther King was a Nazi.


Frank

As much as I agree that Spock Buddy is a troll and many other things his
call for the OP to use Knoppix to check his issue as described with Vista or
any other Windows OS was a correct call.
 
C

Charlie Wilkes

Why won't vista install or boot with more then 3gb ram?

my brother in law has 4 gb ram. It starts with a G I think. Intel E6600
dual core. asus p5n32-sli-e motherboard.

This may be an OS issue, but I bet it is hardware related.

I suggest you post in alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt, because there are
system builders who know their shit. There are a lot of BIOS tweaks
available on this board, and they might be able to suggest a way to
improve the stability of your RAM.

Good luck.

Charlie
 
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Frank

AMD said:
well the articlre my brother in law read has all his parts listed so it
shouldn't be a problem. with xp it's fine i think, but not 100% sure.
The article was pcmag or something that was like $1500 for a gaming pc
that he went by part for part. i don't know which article he went by.

if asus does not list this ram on their web site that does not eman it
is incompatible per say. i have used many pcs with no issues where the
ram is not listed on the mobo web page. so anyhow, how do you proove the
ram is at fault? if it's not vista i mean. how can you proove this is a
mobo issue?

Best advice is to call Asus, tell them your problem. Your problem is
that when you use four sticks of RAM the computer won't boot. They have
(at least last time if talked to them) very good support personal.
Let us know how it turns out.
Frank
 
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Charlie Wilkes

Frank

As much as I agree that Spock Buddy is a troll and many other things his
call for the OP to use Knoppix to check his issue as described with
Vista or any other Windows OS was a correct call.

It might not be a definitive test, though. A live-CD trial with a
rational, well-behaved OS is not the same as the Vista torture test...
like the difference between testing the strength of an army cot with a
normal person vs. a 400-lb oaf. Whether you blame the oaf or the cot for
failure, it's possible that the cot can be tweaked so as to support the
oaf without collapsing.

Charlie
 
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Frank

Peter said:
Frank

As much as I agree that Spock Buddy is a troll and many other things his call for the OP to use Knoppix to check his issue as described with Vista or any other Windows OS was a correct call.

Sorry but I don't agree with you on that point. I've had this very same
situation and it had only to do with the type of RAM and the mobo. My
advice was to call Asus and let them help/advise the op.
Dl'ing another anything else is simply a waste of time and probably will
not properly identify the problem.
Frank
 
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Spocks Buddy

MLK was not a nazi, and I am not a troll.

simple.

You are too tense... relax....
 
J

John Barnes

Make sure you have the latest BIOS, that the BIOS memory settings are
correct including those for the 'memory hole' if available on your BIOS.
Then assuming you have a large enough partition (remember that certain files
are created based on the amount of memory, such as the pagefile and
hiberfile) you've done all you can. Also at those levels of memory you
should consider the 64-bit versions. Remember that the BIOS handles the
addressing of the additional BIOS's for devices on your system and can set
them beyond where the x86 systems can address them (PCI bios, video card
bios, etc.)
 
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Cal Bear '66

NOT TRUE
I have 4GB ram and both Vista Ultimate x86 and Vista Business x64 installed in
about 15-20 mins. with NO problems at all, automatically installing and
configuring ALL mb components. Both Vista installs are running flawlessly. AMD
64 X2 processor.
 

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