Vista will boot up without the 1920 x 1200 resolution available

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liketofindoutwhy

I have 2 Vista machines on the same KVM switch (Keyboard Video Mouse
switch), so that I can use up to 4 computers with 1 set of keyboard,
mouse, and LCD monitor.

On one Vista machine which is a year old, it will boot to 1920 x 1200
resolution every time, even when I am looking at other machines during
that boot up. However, on the newer Vista machine, I must switch to
it and sit there, wait for it to boot to high resolution. If I don't
sit there and wait, and instead switch to using other computers, then
it will boot to 1280 x 720 only. The aspect ratio is off a little
bit, and what's more, when I try to set the resolution manually, the
max available is 1280 x 720.

In other words, this newer machine won't boot to 1920 x 1200 every
time, unless I sit there and wait for it to boot up to the high
resolution screen.

Any solution to it... if anybody knows? Thanks very much!
 
J

JW

The problem is most likely caused by the graphics card in your new Vista
computer.
Do you have the latest driver from the manufacturer of the graphics card
chip used in your new Vista machine installed?
 
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Colon Terminus

JW said:
The problem is most likely caused by the graphics card in your new Vista
computer.
Do you have the latest driver from the manufacturer of the graphics card
chip used in your new Vista machine installed?


As JW mentioned this ain't a Vista problem, it's a video card/driver
problem.
I've seen this many times over with ATI based graphics cards.
 
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PvdG42

Colon Terminus said:
As JW mentioned this ain't a Vista problem, it's a video card/driver
problem.
I've seen this many times over with ATI based graphics cards.
And with NVIDIA cards as well. I have 4 PC's on a KVM, using various NVIDIA
cards from the 6000 series through the 8000 series. Two running Vista and
two running XP. Since I got a 22" widescreen monitor, 1680x1050, not one of
the PC's will use that resolution unless the KVM is switched to that machine
during boot. I was told that the issue is that 1680x1050 is not a "native"
resolution for the graphics cards, and that some sort of communication takes
place between the video drivers and the monitor during boot to permit the
optimum display. Sorry, I don't have technical details.
 
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liketofindoutwhy

And with NVIDIA cards as well. I have 4 PC's on a KVM, using various NVIDIA
cards from the 6000 series through the 8000 series. Two running Vista and
two running XP. Since I got a 22" widescreen monitor, 1680x1050, not one of
the PC's will use that resolution unless the KVM is switched to that machine
during boot. I was told that the issue is that 1680x1050 is not a "native"
resolution for the graphics cards, and that some sort of communication takes
place between the video drivers and the monitor during boot to permit the
optimum display. Sorry, I don't have technical details.

would be nice if we can hardcode the resolution to the machine if
needed huh? maybe it is possible... in some hacking windows book.
 
J

JW

Yes 1680x1050 is not a standard resolution according to the NVIDIA driver
release notes It is listed as a Non-standard but supported mode.
You possibly can use the custom resolution option in the Current NVIDIA Beta
drivers at their website to make it stick as suggested to above.
 
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Basher Bates

I have a very similar problem:

Brand new PC: installed with Vista Ultimate SP1.
Graphics card: nVidea 8600GT with absolute latest drivers (July 2008)
installed.
Monitor: 22" widescreen LCD with native resolution 1680 x 1050.

At boot-up and if screen resolution changed by a program (such as a
screensaver) the display reverts to 1600 x 1200 every time getting a large
blue "Out of Range" warning in the middle of the screen. I can reset it to
1680 x 1050 by right-clicking and using the nVidea setup to restore the
proper resolution. It only takes a few clicks but is, nevertheless,
annoying.

My questions:- 1. Why does Vista insist on reverting to the "out of range"
resolution, when there is a perfectly acceptable driver (non Microsoft)
installed?
2. Is there any way I can make the nVidea driver take precedence?

Ken B
 
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Curious

The Nvidia drivers do not support 1920x1080p60. They only support 1080i/60
Since your 22" LCD display like mine is 1680x1050 there is no reason to try
and send it any other resolution,
I have no trouble sending 1680x1050 to my 22" LCD display over either VGA or
DVI from my 8500GT card using the Nvidia drivers on my Vista HP system.
My screen saver does not change my desktop resolution. Are you using the
standard Vista screen saver or do you have a special program?
 
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Phillips

Do you have a monitor driver or just the default MS one? Check in display
Settings/Advanced/Monitor that the right frequency (59-60Hz) is selected -
pending you have a PnP or unPnP monitor.
Michael
 
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Basher Bates

Hi, I don't know where the 1920x1080@ 60Hz came from... I would be very
happy, indeed, if I could get my desktop to default to the native resolution
of my VDU. I wonder if there was some special code written into the 8500GT
driver supplied by HP. My Yuraku 22" LCD is not recognised as pnp and it
did not come with any additional software. To answer your question, my
screensaver is a Google add-on and it might be worth it to revert to the one
which came with Vista. At the moment, I have reduced the problem by
extending the time before the screensaver cuts in. In any cse, I am not so
sure whether (for a home PC) a screensaver is really necessary, except when
using a CRT display.

Ken B
 
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Basher Bates

Hi Michael,

Not sure whether your reply was intended for "Curious" or me. As far as I
am concerned, I do't have any separate software supplied with the monitor.
When first connected (before installing the nvidia driver) Vist insisted on
treating it as a 4:3 ratio display. By reducing the resolution, I did find a
widescreen format but it produced colour fringing on black text and also
seemed "out of focus" for photos, etc..

The drivers on the CD supplied with the Nvidia 8600GT card were not
compatible with Vista, so I was obliged to check the Nvidia website.
Fortunately, I found that they had just published new (v.175) drivers for
Vista. In the Release Notes dated June 16, 2008, Pages 41-43 quote all the
default modes supported by the 8-series GPUs. 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) @ 60 Hz
is quoted in the list as being a Standard Mode.

I am not an expert in such matters, but have a reasonable command of the
english language. To my mind there could be no other interpretation but that
given above. If it would help (and if I could find out how) I would
willingly send you a copy of the Release Note pdf file.

Ken B
 
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Phillips

1920x1080 looks like 1080p HDTV at 60Hz - probably the newest crop of HDTVs
(up to 120Hz) since most are ~29Hz (interlaced). Might be some game video
settings or the screen saver? I bet the Nvidia driver (ATI here, cannot
check) has that new setting available for connecting to the newer HDTV crop.

You might try RivaTuner http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner for
forcing your desired settings.

BTW, why use a screen saver at all... just turn off monitor in Power Mgt.
settings.

Michael
 
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Curious

1680 x1050 is fully supported with the Nvidia drivers, I have not trouble
using it with my system as I stated before.
If you are not being presented with the choice using the 175 drivers make
sure that you have All Modes selected in control panel.
 
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Phillips

I was replaying to you re: Out of Range message that seems to be caused more
of the wrong frequency rather than by resolution; a good monitor would
automatically scale the resolution to panel size..
Michael
 

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