Vista upgrade invalidates your XP key!!!

J

jim

BEWARE!

I dont like this at all!!! what if you dont like Vista (this will be a very
common scenario)
and you want to go back to xp??? lol vista is stupid!


http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=37676

If you choose to purchase an upgrade version of Windows Vista to upgrade XP,
you will no longer be able to use that version of XP. Either on another
system, or as a dual-boot option. The key will be invalidated, preventing
activation.

From Vista's EULA found here (PDF) :

13. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the
software that is eligiblefor the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes
the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After you
upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from.
 
G

Gordon

jim said:
BEWARE!

I dont like this at all!!! what if you dont like Vista (this will be a
very common scenario)
and you want to go back to xp??? lol vista is stupid!


http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=37676

If you choose to purchase an upgrade version of Windows Vista to upgrade
XP, you will no longer be able to use that version of XP. Either on
another system, or as a dual-boot option.

Technically that's been around for ages. For example, if you did an upgrade
(using an upgrade version) from W98 to XP, the W98 licence was subsumed into
the XP licence and it was actually a violation of the EULA even then, to use
the same version of W98 on another machine. It's just that there is now,
(with the advent of PA) a method of actually preventing this.
 
J

jim

stop the hype...

answer my question.. what if you hate vista and want to format and go back
to XP?

Vista stinks and many will want to go back
 
S

smartie

If you are so uncertain if you want to stick with vista and want to keep the
xp license, then you need the Full Version, not the Update.

Update plus Previous Windows = one new product, that is why it is cheaper to
get, becuase you already paid for Half of the OS, so to say.

it was ever that way, but nobody cared about. With activations now that
comes to an end.
For Good.
smartie
 
R

R. McCarty

Doubtful the Key/Installation is physically prohibited. It's a licensing
issue. You should read carefully before starting another Vista Myth,
it's reckless.

Upgrades should always be thought out. If users do not have imaging
software, they should get it. All these "What If's" can be avoided if
the user images their present system before a Vista upgrade.

~$40 for Acronis True Image, 30 Minutes of time to create/burn &
all these issues are a moot point. Not difficult at all and a minimal cost
for what an Image backup provides.
 
R

Rick Rogers

If you want to go back, you simply will need to phone in the XP activation.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
J

jim

smartie "pants" This is not about me, but about all the people who have
little information about how MS does this

... not many people will know that they will be saying bye-bye to their
XP edition if they upgrade.

My opinion is that you should be able to use either XP or the upgrade to
Vista
at any time as long as you have ONE OS loaded.

By disabling the XP version you are losing an option... I see that as less,
not more.

Its like if you want to upgrade your machine, the store said.. I will sell
you the new parts,
but I will destroy the old ones! They dont do that though.. they are yours
to keep..
right? You may not even need to use them.. but what if you are crazy and
want to degrade again to an older machine?

In the situation with windows I can imagine there are MANY reasons why
people
who will dislike vista in the end.. because their apps wont work or the
performance is bad for their hardware.... they will want to format and go
back to XP...

I find this illogical and MS is stupid for depriving the people the ability
to go back.
 
D

David Hearn

Very true - if it invalidated your key, and you could not activate XP
with it, then when you need to re-install again, how do you manage to
isntall and activate XP to then re-run the upgrade from the XP desktop?

D
 
J

jim

Hello Rick...

are you totally sure? If you phone in will they let you reactivate XP?

Where did you read this?

I might need this information in the future (not for me but for others)
 
D

David Hearn

It makes sense as Vista Upgrade must be run from an activated XP desktop
(ignoring the W2k issue). If you've installed Vista Upgrade once and it
killed your product key, then how could you ever re-install and activate
XP again when you need to rebuild your machine? Marking the product key
as 'phone only' (ie. not internet activation) still allows the user to
activate.

David
 
H

Henry Jones

Considering that I reinstalled my XP, did the online activation, was told by
the system that the activation was "in use", I called Microsoft, they asked
me if the new version of XP was the only one that I was using, I said Yes,
and they allowed reactivation.

Pretty simple, although it was a PITA, to have to call and do this, but I
got to use XP again.

I am sure this will work if someone wants to bail on Vista.
 
H

Henry Jones

Jim,

Aren't you the same Douche Bag who called all the vista users stupid for
using it?
 

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