Vista Upgrade Failure on XP Pro

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joseph2k

Dale said:
Oh yeah, while we're at it. Everyone who doesn't own an Apple Ipod is an
idiot. Ipods do everything better than any MP3 out there. Everyone in the
world should be forced to run iTunes regardless of what MP3 player they
have and all MP3s should be converted to AAC format, since it's superior
format than anything else in the world.

Everyone should throw away their current Cell Phones and get a iPhone,
It's an apple product, which means it's the best thing in the world. Apple
made it, they know everything, they are the best.

If you don't use apple products you're a retard, you should not be allowed
to own a Computer, Cell Phone or MP3 player ! If only Apple made
everything in the world, everything would be perfect.

There now you don't have to tell us what else we're doing wrong.
You forgot the winky face. Somebody might miss the sarcasm otherwise.
 
J

joseph2k

BJ4444 said:
I have tried three times now to install Vista Business Upgrade on My XP
Pro,
Dell 5150. It has 1 GB RAM, ATI 128 Mb Radeon video, 250 Gb WD SATA hard
drive. I removed all extraneous hardware, all USB external drives, kvm
swtch,
Any ideas out there would be greatly appreciated.

I do believe that your problem is that your video card does not support
directX 9, maybe not even directX 8. The documentation for Vista clearly
states that directX 9 must be supported by the video card. Also SATA
support in Vista is still a bit flakey. There are two things for you to
work on.
 
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Dale \Mad_Murdock\ White

joseph2k said:
Open VMS is alive and well on many hardware platforms, including 68K, x86,
MIPS, SPARC, HP PA-RISC, PowerPC, and others. It also supports the
X-Window system like all Unix and Linux platforms.

I'm no expert on VMS, I only work with VMS people. I've never seen VMS in
the last 10 years run on anything but the VAX\AlphaServer family. They have
recently ported it over to Intel's Itaninum, but I don't think that counts
as x86, instead it's I64. And that's mainly because the AlphaServer is going
away. if it runs on x86, PPC and MIPS I've never heard of it and the 10-15
year VMS guys never mentioned it when I mheckled them that VMS was a
"closed" OS, not an "Open" one

This is from HP's site
Starting with OpenVMS version 8.2, HP introduces support for OpenVMS
Industry Standard 64 (I64) for Integrity servers. OpenVMS Alpha supports HP
AlphaServer series computers, and OpenVMS VAX supports VAX, MicroVAX,
VAXstation, and VAXserver series computers. OpenVMS software supports
industry standards, facilitating application portability and
interoperability, and it provides symmetric multiprocessing (SMP) support
for multiprocessing systems.

Alive and well I guess is a matter of where you stand I guess. I don't see
openVMS capturing any marketshare, and if it's not growing, then I consider
it a dying OS

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but the GUI shells I've seen VMS run
fall under the not very pretty group. Maybe my group, just doesn't like the
newer prettier shells. here is the shell I'm use to seeing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DECwindows-openvms-v7.3-1.png

The Internet itself is less than 40 years old, and the world wide web is
some 20 years younger.

I am guilty of lumping the whole internet in together. I infered a little
more than what he implied. I also started counting from when the Arpanet
project started (which is still shy of 50) and rounded up. My general point
was is OSX didn't invent the internet or anything else, but I should have
know it would have turned into an argument of technical minutia
Given your existing history goofs i do not trust you on this. Ever hear
of
the Intel i432?

Nope, never heard of it.

My statemet was from this Source
http://www.computermuseum.li/Testpage/99HISTORYCD-ARPA-History.HTM

I'm accept that I'm guilty of blurring the lines, my basis was more on his
implication that OSX (and Al Gore) invented the internet, versus just the
Http protocol. I read in to it more than I should have and as a result,
responded incorrectly.

Though I still believe this person, who also goes by Ted Landry and
erthschol is nothing more than a troll, who seems to think the world was
invented and continue to run on a Mac and likes to add to users frustration
just for the heck of it
 
D

Dale \Mad_Murdock\ White

joseph2k said:
I do believe that your problem is that your video card does not support
directX 9, maybe not even directX 8. The documentation for Vista clearly
states that directX 9 must be supported by the video card. Also SATA
support in Vista is still a bit flakey. There are two things for you to
work on.

I cheated and looked at the tech specs for the video card, and according to
what I found it's a the ATI 9000 mobility which is listed as a DX 8.1 card.
but oddly enough, they have Vista driver updates for it.
http://support.dell.com/support/dow...s=dhs&SystemID=INS_PNT_P4_5150&os=WLH&osl=EN#

Oddly enough, it only list the video card as a "Up to" 64 meg card.
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins5100/en/index.htm

Though it looks like if you read the fine print, a super VGA card should
work
Windows Vista Home Basic
Minimum supported requirements
Certain product features are not available with minimum supported
requirements.

a.. 800 MHz processor and 512 MB of system memory

b.. 20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space

c.. Support for Super VGA graphics

d.. CD-ROM drive
 
J

joseph2k

Dale said:
I'm no expert on VMS, I only work with VMS people. I've never seen VMS in
the last 10 years run on anything but the VAX\AlphaServer family. They
have recently ported it over to Intel's Itaninum, but I don't think that
counts as x86, instead it's I64. And that's mainly because the AlphaServer
is going away. if it runs on x86, PPC and MIPS I've never heard of it and
the 10-15 year VMS guys never mentioned it when I mheckled them that VMS
was a "closed" OS, not an "Open" one

This is from HP's site
Starting with OpenVMS version 8.2, HP introduces support for OpenVMS
Industry Standard 64 (I64) for Integrity servers. OpenVMS Alpha supports
HP AlphaServer series computers, and OpenVMS VAX supports VAX, MicroVAX,
VAXstation, and VAXserver series computers. OpenVMS software supports
industry standards, facilitating application portability and
interoperability, and it provides symmetric multiprocessing (SMP) support
for multiprocessing systems.

Alive and well I guess is a matter of where you stand I guess. I don't see
openVMS capturing any marketshare, and if it's not growing, then I
consider it a dying OS

Until i saw some OpenVMS stuff less than 5 years ago i had thought it was
completely deceased. The legacy applications issue seems to give a life
beyond the grave, much like COBOL.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but the GUI shells I've seen VMS run
fall under the not very pretty group. Maybe my group, just doesn't like
the newer prettier shells. here is the shell I'm use to seeing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DECwindows-openvms-v7.3-1.png

I did not think that i had classed it as pretty, just that it supported
X-windows.
I am guilty of lumping the whole internet in together. I infered a little
more than what he implied. I also started counting from when the Arpanet
project started (which is still shy of 50) and rounded up. My general
point was is OSX didn't invent the internet or anything else, but I should
have know it would have turned into an argument of technical minutia

Accepted.


Nope, never heard of it.

My statemet was from this Source
http://www.computermuseum.li/Testpage/99HISTORYCD-ARPA-History.HTM

I'm accept that I'm guilty of blurring the lines, my basis was more on his
implication that OSX (and Al Gore) invented the internet, versus just the
Http protocol. I read in to it more than I should have and as a result,
responded incorrectly.

Though I still believe this person, who also goes by Ted Landry and
erthschol is nothing more than a troll, who seems to think the world was
invented and continue to run on a Mac and likes to add to users
frustration just for the heck of it

Yes. However, sloppy responses do tend to encourage trolls.
 
J

joseph2k

Dale said:
I cheated and looked at the tech specs for the video card, and according
to
what I found it's a the ATI 9000 mobility which is listed as a DX 8.1
card. but oddly enough, they have Vista driver updates for it.
http://support.dell.com/support/dow...s=dhs&SystemID=INS_PNT_P4_5150&os=WLH&osl=EN#

Oddly enough, it only list the video card as a "Up to" 64 meg card.
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins5100/en/index.htm

Though it looks like if you read the fine print, a super VGA card should
work
Windows Vista Home Basic
Minimum supported requirements
Certain product features are not available with minimum supported
requirements.

a.. 800 MHz processor and 512 MB of system memory

b.. 20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space

c.. Support for Super VGA graphics

d.. CD-ROM drive

I did not count the 800 X 600 256 color VESA mode in my reckoning, kind of
surprized to see it still supported. Must be for people who change brands
of video cards.

Is there really a distribution on several CD's instead of 1 bootable DVD?
 
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Dale \Mad_Murdock\ White

joseph2k said:
Is there really a distribution on several CD's instead of 1 bootable DVD?

I just looked on MSDN and saw there is a 5 CD set, for those that don't want
to download the DVD.
 

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