VISTA SP1

[Bob W]

Yes, it's a problem. No, it's a not a big one. Before you run the Update, just go into McAfee and turn everything you can find OFF - select the "off until restart" option. That' it. Run the update. It will take about 2 hours and several reboots. All automatic. You will tempted to touch your computer during the long periods of seeming nothingness. Resist this urge. Do not look at computer. Go away. Do something else for several hours. Get laid. If you are like most men, for two hours, get laid about 18 times! Hey, the latest study says 3 to 13 minutes is optimal! I kid you not!

Anyway, just let it do it's thing. Mine took about 2-1/2 hours total - after I tuned McAfee off. Went just fine.
Bob, Still Old, Still Grey, And Still A Woolf


No trees were harmed in the sending of this message and a very large number of electrons were asked their permission to be terribly inconvenienced. And a party was thrown for them afterwards for being really cool about it.

Bob's Space - Home Page of the Olde Greywoolf

I know Nortons is crap. It has been known since 2005 but I have Mcafee on
my 32 bit Business Edition Vista (doesn't work on 64 bit ultimate) and had
it installed pre SP1 and it remains installed after SP1 with no problems
occurring.

Yet.

 

[Grey]

Yet.

So when do YOU consider a problem SHOULD occur? I have had Mcafee on it
since before I got Vista. I got Vista the day it was publicly released. No
problems from that point onwards. How long do you think I should wait for
your fables to become reality?

 

[Grey]

Wrong on SP1 stand alone causing problems. Two machines with Vista. No
problems. As to Mcafee, finds more viruses than any other and I have
repeatedly tried many of them (not all) and it still wins. If you don't like
it, fine. I like it for the fact that it is better than others. However,
having said that, I must admit AVG is ALMOST as good at finding them. Just
isn't AS good. Best thing about AVG is the price of course.

 

[Nonny]

As to Mcafee, finds more viruses than any other and I have
repeatedly tried many of them (not all) and it still wins. If you don't like
it, fine. I like it for the fact that it is better than others. However,
having said that, I must admit AVG is ALMOST as good at finding them.

How do you know any of that? Do you have a lot of experience with
catching a virus?

 

[Mark]

You may be interested in this report, McAfee is near the bottom.

http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse/report17.pdf

Mark

 

[Mark]

I doubt their findings are anything but true. I do not have a lot of
experience with viruses, but I have seen 2 machines get infected and totally
trashed. They were using McAfee.

Mark

 

[Grey]

How do you know any of that? Do you have a lot of experience with
catching a virus?

Yep. Constantly in fact. However, even though that is what I do I have only
found two unknown ones recently so I am not on the cutting edge so to speak.

 

[Grey]

I read everything I can about AV progs. I also don't agree with a fair bit
of reports. The proof is not what someone tells you is so but what you do to
prove it is so. My job is finding and getting rid of viruses (as well as a
few other things) and as a result I am constantly having to stop and compare
AVs when I find something that is either new or hard to remove to see if one
actually does a better job. This means keeping the actual image and trying
something else to get rid of it. I normally DO start with AVG and yes from
time to time even try to see if Nortons has improved (it hasn't) and once
AVG is done, I try others. Mcafee consistently finds about 4 (on average)
more items than anything else. So, I rely on my own findings, not what
others tell me in reports - though I do try to read all their reports.

 

[Grey]

In my own experience, I haven't and I have seen a hell of a lot of different
viruses.

 

[Nonny]

Yep. Constantly in fact. However, even though that is what I do I have only
found two unknown ones recently so I am not on the cutting edge so to speak.

Then you must be doing something VERY wrong..

I've been using PCs for almost 20 years - online 18 years, about 10
without using an anti-virus program.

I have NEVER had a virus infection and NEVER had a malware
infestation.

 

[Nonny]

I read everything I can about AV progs. I also don't agree with a fair bit
of reports. The proof is not what someone tells you is so but what you do to
prove it is so. My job is finding and getting rid of viruses

That explains it.

 

[Alias]

Then you must be doing something VERY wrong..

I've been using PCs for almost 20 years - online 18 years, about 10
without using an anti-virus program.

I have NEVER had a virus infection and NEVER had a malware
infestation.

If you don't use an AV program, how do you know you're not infected?

Alias

 

[Frank]

If you don't use an AV program, how do you know you're not infected?

Alias

That would be you and all the rest of the linux losers...er, users!...LOL!
Frank

 

[Alias]

That would be you and all the rest of the linux losers...er, users!...LOL!
Frank

Read your post again. It makes no sense. Are you losing it, Frank?

Alias

 

[Frank]

Read your post again. It makes no sense. Are you losing it, Frank?

Alias

So it went over your little pointy, empty head, huh?
Figures...everyone act really surprised!...LOL!
Loser!
Frank

 

[measekite]

That would be you and all the rest of the linux losers...er,
users!...LOL!
Frank

All anybody needs to do to know he is infected is to read his postings.

AHHHH ha ha ha ha

 

[Not Me]

All anybody needs to do to know he is infected is to read his postings.
AHHHH ha ha ha ha

I didn't know you could catch mad cow (or is it sheep) disease
online...guess I learned something new today!

 

[Grey]

Then you must be doing something VERY wrong..

I've been using PCs for almost 20 years - online 18 years, about 10
without using an anti-virus program.

I have NEVER had a virus infection and NEVER had a malware
infestation.

That would be the one you never turned on no doubt.

I work in the industry. I am constantly repairing mistakes people make.
However, having said that, you CAN click on an innocuous link that is
actually there to attempt to infect your machine and you can do that from a
Google search, too. So, if you haven't been infected already, don't be
unhappy. If you don't have antivirus protection then the chances are that
you just don't KNOW you are infected!

 

[Nonny]

That would be the one you never turned on no doubt.

I work in the industry. I am constantly repairing mistakes people make.
However, having said that, you CAN click on an innocuous link that is
actually there to attempt to infect your machine and you can do that from a
Google search, too. So, if you haven't been infected already, don't be
unhappy. If you don't have antivirus protection then the chances are that
you just don't KNOW you are infected!

I've been using an a-v program for the past 6 or 7 years.

 

[Marc]

McAfee is bloatware - don't know how effective it is, the last time I let it
loose on my own PC was sometime in 1998, for all of 10 minutes! Still, it
won't go away - the PC industry relies too heavily on selling customers up
to high margin products like this when they purchase a new PC.

Marc