Vista Sp1 info download

[Guest]

Below, Vista Sp1 info download. Hope to goodness it tames the monster down to
a more managable savage beast for the average home user.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...f6-2eaa-4aaa-8b3b-2e199db4a97d&displaylang=en

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Will;
Just remember it is Beta.
And you should install it with the same caution as you would any Beta
from any source, not just Microsoft.

Do not install any Beta unless you are prepared for data loss and the
need for a Clean Installation to resolve any issues caused by the
Beta.

As a Beta, it is best if the "average home user" avoids it.

 

[Dr. Hackenbush]

Will;
Just remember it is Beta.
And you should install it with the same caution as you would any Beta from
any source, not just Microsoft.

Do not install any Beta unless you are prepared for data loss and the need
for a Clean Installation to resolve any issues caused by the Beta.

As a Beta, it is best if the "average home user" avoids it.

Same as Vista then really

 

[Tibery-OS]

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9790540-7.html?tag=nefd.lede

If you've been waiting for Windows Vista SP1 to come out before you make the
leap to the new operating system, don't, says Microsoft.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Not at all since windows Vista is long past Beta.

 

[Alias]

Not at all since windows Vista is long past Beta.

Depends on your definition of Beta. As far as I can tell, every single
release of all Windows OSes were released as Betas so MS could use the
paying public for free to sort out bugs that weren't noticed in the
so-called "real" Beta and Vista could be more appropriately called in
Public Alpha right now. The jury is out if it will ever make it to Beta
or be thrown away like Windows Me for Vienna.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

"Depends on your definition of Beta."
False.
You nor I determine when a product is Beta, the manufacturer makes
that determination.

That is your opinion and some can say the same for virtually all
software from any source.
The fact is Windows Vista is not Beta.

Those who feel otherwise are free to choose any of the many other
options available.
And those that do, probably should.

 

[Bill Yanaire]

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9790540-7.html?tag=nefd.lede

If you've been waiting for Windows Vista SP1 to come out before you make
the
leap to the new operating system, don't, says Microsoft.

If Tibery-OS is waiting for a brain, don't, says the world!

 

[Alias]

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
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Depends on your definition of Beta. As far as I can tell, every

single release of all Windows OSes were released as Betas so MS could
use the paying public for free to sort out bugs that weren't noticed in
the so-called "real" Beta and Vista could be more appropriately called
in Public Alpha right now. The jury is out if it will ever make it to
Beta or be thrown away like Windows Me for Vienna.

"Depends on your definition of Beta."
False.
You nor I determine when a product is Beta, the manufacturer makes that
determination.

That is your opinion and some can say the same for virtually all
software from any source.
The fact is Windows Vista is not Beta.

Those who feel otherwise are free to choose any of the many other
options available.
And those that do, probably should.

"A rose by any other name smells just a sweet".

You missed my point as it flew way over your head.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Then what was your point?
You think Windows Vista is a Beta and the facts disagree.

Your opinion of the software is irrelevant as to whether it is Beta or
not.
That is not your or my call.
You do not like it and you feel it is like a Beta.
But that does not make it a Beta.

 

[Adam Albright]

Not at all since windows Vista is long past Beta.

Sure right. ROTFLAMO!

 

[Alias]

Then what was your point?
You think Windows Vista is a Beta and the facts disagree.

Other opinions disagree.

Your opinion of the software is irrelevant as to whether it is Beta or not.
That is not your or my call.
You do not like it and you feel it is like a Beta.
But that does not make it a Beta.

Try to learn how not to top post. Your sig delimiter nukes the rest of
the post. As someone who posts under the MVP badge, one would think you
would know that.

Vista doesn't qualify as a Beta and you're right, that's my opinion. Get
over it.

 

[NT Canuck]

"Depends on your definition of Beta."
False.
You nor I determine when a product is Beta, the manufacturer makes
that determination.

That's true, provided the manufacturer has standards.
Vista isn't even a beta, I've worked with LongHorn
beta's since just after the alpha stages, they were
smaller, quicker, and had little problems outside
of a few memory leaks and file system..MS took out
the file system and called the memory leak a feature.

Vista fresh install works fine, the Vista upgrade is
an insult to Microsofts integrity and skill, it will
automatically (without any prompt) roll back at the
very end of installation simply for a missing video
driver (maybe for sound also)..2 hours wasted.
Oddly..the fresh install places the generic video
driver into use and bypasses sound setup..yet the
upgrade can't make that decision and the actual
files for video card are in Vista *.inf <duh>,
I actually ended up manually installing the same
video drivers the XP edition were using and that
was for a vista ready certified card. I've used,
installed, corrected some hundred or more MS
beta's over the past decade and this installer
would never have been an acceptable beta (although
beta OS is always a fresh install recommendation).

That is your opinion and some can say the same for virtually all
software from any source.

Yes one can, but that's not why people use or buy
Microsoft products..a product that typically sets
the bar for performance and user friendly operation.
Vista does have all the goodies but is assembled
in such a manner I can't believe it's from MS,
it's more like a first time retail attempt from
a startup company...one that won't even survive.

The fact is Windows Vista is not Beta.

Correct, beta products move forwards not backwards.

Those who feel otherwise are free to choose any of the many other
options available.
And those that do, probably should.

Heh, sort of like we got your money over the years and
we control your food supply ... so eat dirt or die.

Jupiter, you've already posted a hundred times more
effort than it would actually take in mouse clicks
for MS to clean up and repair some trivial errors
hardcoded into Vista, lowering your standards to
fit a lazy slowpoke MS regime and product is not
going to do the future any good, defend yourself.

NT Canuck
'Seek and ye shall find'

 

[Dr. Hackenbush]

Just cos its not beta doesnt mean its not a heap of crap !

Then what was your point?
You think Windows Vista is a Beta and the facts disagree.

Your opinion of the software is irrelevant as to whether it is Beta or
not.
That is not your or my call.
You do not like it and you feel it is like a Beta.
But that does not make it a Beta.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Below, Vista Sp1 info download. Hope to goodness it tames the monster down to
a more managable savage beast for the average home user.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...f6-2eaa-4aaa-8b3b-2e199db4a97d&displaylang=en

Warning! This is *not* SP1. This is a *beta* version of SP1.

A beta version, by definition, is one with known bugs and problems in
it. If those known bugs and problems weren't there, it would be a
released version.

Unless you enjoy playing with such things *and* you have a spare,
non-production machine to run it on, installing this is foolhardy.
It's just looking for trouble.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

"Other opinions disagree."
Disagree all they want, that does not change the facts.
You or others thinking Windows Vista acts like a Beta has no relevance
to the fact it is not a Beta.

"that's my opinion. Get over it."
Nothing to get over.
You are entitled to your opinion.
However whatever your or my opinion, the fact is Windows Vista is not
a Beta.
The software manufacturer, Microsoft in this case, and not us makes
that determination.

 

[Alias]

"Other opinions disagree."
Disagree all they want, that does not change the facts.
You or others thinking Windows Vista acts like a Beta has no relevance
to the fact it is not a Beta.

"that's my opinion. Get over it."
Nothing to get over.
You are entitled to your opinion.
However whatever your or my opinion, the fact is Windows Vista is not a
Beta.
The software manufacturer, Microsoft in this case, and not us makes that
determination.

You just nuked my entire post with your top posting. Learn to bottom
post, please. I don't care what Microsoft calls it, it was released
waaaaaaaaaaaaaay before it was ready, call it whatever you want.

 

[NT Canuck]

Warning! This is *not* SP1. This is a *beta* version of SP1.

Yes, it is a BETA which means if your system is running ok
then don't even think about it, there is the possibility of
giving a properly functioning system new_problems.

The SP1 BETA seems to be an attempt by some folks at MS
to try and help people with issues on Vista or complaints..
I suspect it took some people there a lot of arm twisting
just to get that much available (a cut down beta SP1).
Hopefully they will get good feedback and continue.

NT Canuck
'Seek and ye shall find'

 

[Bill Yanaire]

"Other opinions disagree."
Disagree all they want, that does not change the facts.
You or others thinking Windows Vista acts like a Beta has no relevance to
the fact it is not a Beta.

A Beta product usually isn't finished and has many bugs. Vista is
"finished" according to Microsoft, but has many bugs (In the Thousands, I'm
sure). Any company that puts out a product that has thousands of bugs is
still not finished. If it's not finished then it's BETA.

If you want to think it's finished go ahead. The rest of us know better.
Just FYI.

"that's my opinion. Get over it."
Nothing to get over.
You are entitled to your opinion.
However whatever your or my opinion, the fact is Windows Vista is not a
Beta.
The software manufacturer, Microsoft in this case, and not us makes that
determination.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

"If you want to think it's finished go ahead"
I never said what I think as to whether windows Vista is finished or
not, that is not relevant.