Vista RC2 install fails with SATA

G

Guest

Using a Dell Dimension e520 (vista Cap)
1 160GB SATA

part1: util part (Diag Part)
part2: Xp Pro pro (Drive C:) 49GB
part3: Vista (Drive D Extended) rest of 160GB formatted and healthy
....resized the partition for Vista with PM 8.0

I started the Setup for Vista from XP Pro, selected to update the files and
drivers
choose Advanced or Custom Install
Pointed to Drive D:
It start the installation (downloading, copying)
when it reboots to restart I get the following error at the WINDOWS BOOT
MANAGER screen:

Earlier Version of Windows
Windows Setup
-----------------------------------------------------------
Source: D:\rtm_edu\base\boot\environ\app\bootmgr.c
Status: 0xC0000002
Line: 1492
info: An unexpected error has occurred.

-----------------------------------------------------------

I tried Booting from the DVD still cannot install.

Any ideas why it is not copying the files or installing?

I was thinking it needs the SATA drivers but maybe there's another reason
why the
files were not copying to the location above

I guess I need to remove XP Pro SP2 from the first partition?

Where can I get the updates for drivers for Vista? Dell does not have them
they say
they will not be available until 2007 when Vista ships.
Looking for Beta drivers that can be used, any thoughts.
 
J

JW

I have no trouble with my 160GB Sata Drive.
Did you start the upgrade from an XP installation already running in Drive
D?
If not did you start the installation by booting from CD?
Is Drive D a primary drive and newly reformatted?
 
G

Guest

Actually I started the installation from XP Pro SP2 on Drive C:.
I did not select an upgrade, I wanted to do a new install on Drive D: which
is not
primary, Extended partition with Logical D:
Drive D: is newly formatted.

I then tried to start it from CD but at some point it asked for a driver, I
thought it was for the CD/DVD drive. Weird.
 
R

Roy Coorne

Tony said:
Actually I started the installation from XP Pro SP2 on Drive C:.
I did not select an upgrade, I wanted to do a new install on Drive D: which
is not
primary, Extended partition with Logical D:
Drive D: is newly formatted.

I then tried to start it from CD but at some point it asked for a driver, I
thought it was for the CD/DVD drive. Weird.

You should install Vista from a DVD and keep ready the driver for your
SATA drive - perhaps it is what Vista was asking for (press F6 at the
very beginning of the installation procedure).

I hope Vista has no probs with your "part 1: util part (Diag part)".



Roy
 
J

Jan Il

I have a SATA and I have the RC2 upgrade of the RC1 installed on that drive,
and all works fine. It is the drive that I have installed every build that
I have tested since July when I built the new machine.

(SEGB01J) Barracuda 7200.9 80GB 8MB SATA II/3Gb NCQ

Hope this helps.

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Jan :)
 
J

JW

Since you can only boot an OS from a primary drive you must install Vista on
a newly NTSC formatted drive or you must install it as an upgade on the
drive you are running from which of course will have it replace the OS you
are running on with the Vista OS.
 
J

Jan Il

Hi JW :)

It is better not to pre-format the drive, but, let Vista format it during
the install process.

Hope this helps.

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N

Nero

Mines not on a primary drive
JW said:
Since you can only boot an OS from a primary drive you must install Vista
on a newly NTSC formatted drive or you must install it as an upgade on the
drive you are running from which of course will have it replace the OS you
are running on with the Vista OS.
 
G

Guest

I have seen the same problem. Sort of.

I run two Seagate 10,000 RPM hard drives sata. While doing a clean install
if both serial ATA hard drives were installed the vista instalation was
unable to detect any hard drive. Keeping in mind that serial ATA hard drives
are not configured with slave and master. After removing one serial ATA hard
drive physically, the installation could then see the hard drive. Hours
before this I gave up on trying to install the system with a raid. Even
after providing the installation with the necessary drivers which could be
faulty.
Jan Il said:
I have a SATA and I have the RC2 upgrade of the RC1 installed on that drive,
and all works fine. It is the drive that I have installed every build that
I have tested since July when I built the new machine.

(SEGB01J) Barracuda 7200.9 80GB 8MB SATA II/3Gb NCQ

Hope this helps.

Jan :)
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Jan :)
Tony Saucedo said:
Using a Dell Dimension e520 (vista Cap)
1 160GB SATA

part1: util part (Diag Part)
part2: Xp Pro pro (Drive C:) 49GB
part3: Vista (Drive D Extended) rest of 160GB formatted and healthy
...resized the partition for Vista with PM 8.0

I started the Setup for Vista from XP Pro, selected to update the files
and
drivers
choose Advanced or Custom Install
Pointed to Drive D:
It start the installation (downloading, copying)
when it reboots to restart I get the following error at the WINDOWS BOOT
MANAGER screen:

Earlier Version of Windows
Windows Setup
-----------------------------------------------------------
Source: D:\rtm_edu\base\boot\environ\app\bootmgr.c
Status: 0xC0000002
Line: 1492
info: An unexpected error has occurred.

-----------------------------------------------------------

I tried Booting from the DVD still cannot install.

Any ideas why it is not copying the files or installing?

I was thinking it needs the SATA drivers but maybe there's another reason
why the
files were not copying to the location above

I guess I need to remove XP Pro SP2 from the first partition?

Where can I get the updates for drivers for Vista? Dell does not have
them
they say
they will not be available until 2007 when Vista ships.
Looking for Beta drivers that can be used, any thoughts.
 
J

JW

You can have more then one Primary Partition on a single drive. So delete
and recreate your D Partition as a Primay Partition.
 
J

Jan Il

Hi JW :)

Yes you can. I dual boot and so I usually create my partitions from the My
Computer>Manage>Disk Management.
Just right click on the drive that you want to add a new partition to and
select the New Partition. If you want to have a specific size, such as 40MG,
50MB, etc, then enter 40000 or 50000 in the size window and click ok. But,
for installing Vista, don't assign a drive letter, and let Vista format it
during the install process. Then OK out:

Do the following to install the Vista,

1. Put in the Vista DVD in the ROM and restart the computer
2. When it comes up, the drive and/or partition you created should show in
the list. Select the one you to install Vista on and let Vista format the
drive/partition itself.

Once Vista is installed and you are logged on, download and install the
VistaBoot Pro
http://www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro/intro.php

For Dual or Multi Booting Vista with XP or other versions of Vista:

There is one very important point that you must be aware of and remember:

When you are in Vista, Vista will *always* see itself as being on the C:\
drive. No matter if you have all 5 versions of Vista installed on the same
machine, whichever version you are logged into, it will say that it is on
the C:\ drive. Also, when you are in XP it will say it is on the C:\ drive.
This is normal... so *DO NOT*...*DO NOT* change the letter of C:\ for any
Vista version *when you are in it*. It will mess up the bootloader and you
likely won't be able to get back to XP, or any other OS installed. We will
discuss drive designation further down.

Once Vista is installed, install the VistaBoot Pro:
1. When it opens click on the Configure tab and under the Bootloader
section, select XP or Vista from the drop down box to be your default OS.
2. Set the Boot time out for 30 seconds. Click apply.
3. IF you want to rename the Vista install from Microsoft Windows Vista to
another name (this *is* allowable), in the Entry-Based section, click on
Select OS to modify. Select the Microsoft Windows Vista and in the Rename
to window, type in whatever name you want to give it. This is especially
helpful when you have more than one version of Vista installed. *DO NOT*
change the Vista drive letter from C:\.
4. Then click on the Manage Entries tab. If you don't see an OS you want
included in the boot menu in the list, you can add it by putting the drive
letter in the box next to the 'Drive letter' under the Add an Entry section,
and then add the name of the OS in the 'Entry name' window where Microsoft
Windows appears, then click the Add tab.
4. Then highlight the OS in the list in the top window that you want to be
the first in the boot menu on restart, and if it is not already at the top
of the list, click the Up tab to move it to the top of the list. Continue
moving the other OS's up or down until you have them in the lineup you
prefer.
5. Then create a new folder on the XP drive where you want to save a backup
of the boot menu you just created, then click the Backup/Restore tab in the
VistaBoot Pro and safe it to that folder.
6. Then close out of VistaBoot Pro and reboot
7. Log off and restart your machine. When it restarts, you should have a
boot menu like the one you newly created.

Whether single or dual booting, these steps should establish the boot
function and make it easy to maintain.

Drive designations:

Remember, when you are in Vista, any one of the 5 versions, it will always
show that it is on the C:\ drive. Open XP and it does the same. Normal. *DO
NOT* change the Vista drive letter from C:\ *when you are in it.*

Vista tends to see drives in a rather odd manner. If you are single booting
this is not a problem, but, if you are dual or multi booting, it can be very
confusing trying to remember which OS is on which drive, and especially when
all the Vista versions are showing as Microsoft Windows Vista in the boot
menu . Now you are saying, "Yeahbut, you said Vista always sees itself on
the C:\ drive. Right?" And I say "Remember...it always sees itself on the
C:\ drive *when you are in Vista*. If you will notice, the same thing is
true when you are in XP, it will show it to be on the C:\ drive. In dual or
multi booting, XP may be shown as being on the H or F drive when you are in
Vista, but, when you boot into XP, it will show that it is on the C:\ drive,
and Vista on another drive. This is the way it is. And no....I dunno why
either. <g> So, in order to cut down on the confusion, I give each of the
drives a name, such as XP Pro, Vista RC1, or Vista Ultimatex64, etc. so
that I would know "Who's on First." If you don't want to install the
VistaBoot Pro and do it there in the Manage Entries as I described above,
then I would advise that it be done from XP. Why? Because it is easier for
me to describe it for you... plus, it is much easier and faster from XP than
if you have UAC enabled in Vista.

You must be logged on with Administrative rights:

1. Right click on the My Computer icon on the desktop or from the Start
menu>select Manage>click on Disk Management
2. You will see a list of all the drives in the window at the top and their
related locations in the drive panes in the section below.
3. Right click on any one of the drives in the window at the top and give
them a name, remembering which OS is on which drive. I suggest this method
as opposed to doing renaming the drives from the Windows Explorer (which you
can do), as it is easier look at the various drives in the panes in the
lower section of the Disk Management and remember what is where. At least
for me. However, you can do this from Vista as well, using the same method,
but, right clicking on 'Computer' in the Start menu.
4. Then close of the Disk Management and all the way out of My Computer

Hope this helps.

Jan :)
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J

Jan Il

Hi Frank :)

Yes, I did have a problem at one time with the drive not being recognized. I
have 2 SATA hard drives and the one I wanted to install the Vista on was an
different kind, so I believe that I had to go into the BIOS and set the
drives to IDE. Then things worked fine. At least it solved the problem for
me.

Hope this helps.

Jan :)
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Frankydp said:
I have seen the same problem. Sort of.

I run two Seagate 10,000 RPM hard drives sata. While doing a clean
install
if both serial ATA hard drives were installed the vista instalation was
unable to detect any hard drive. Keeping in mind that serial ATA hard
drives
are not configured with slave and master. After removing one serial ATA
hard
drive physically, the installation could then see the hard drive. Hours
before this I gave up on trying to install the system with a raid. Even
after providing the installation with the necessary drivers which could be
faulty.
Jan Il said:
I have a SATA and I have the RC2 upgrade of the RC1 installed on that
drive,
and all works fine. It is the drive that I have installed every build
that
I have tested since July when I built the new machine.

(SEGB01J) Barracuda 7200.9 80GB 8MB SATA II/3Gb NCQ

Hope this helps.

Jan :)
MS MVP - Windows IE [DTS/AumHa]
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that's why they're so contagious.

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readers.
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Jan :)
Tony Saucedo said:
Using a Dell Dimension e520 (vista Cap)
1 160GB SATA

part1: util part (Diag Part)
part2: Xp Pro pro (Drive C:) 49GB
part3: Vista (Drive D Extended) rest of 160GB formatted and healthy
...resized the partition for Vista with PM 8.0

I started the Setup for Vista from XP Pro, selected to update the files
and
drivers
choose Advanced or Custom Install
Pointed to Drive D:
It start the installation (downloading, copying)
when it reboots to restart I get the following error at the WINDOWS
BOOT
MANAGER screen:

Earlier Version of Windows
Windows Setup
-----------------------------------------------------------
Source: D:\rtm_edu\base\boot\environ\app\bootmgr.c
Status: 0xC0000002
Line: 1492
info: An unexpected error has occurred.

-----------------------------------------------------------

I tried Booting from the DVD still cannot install.

Any ideas why it is not copying the files or installing?

I was thinking it needs the SATA drivers but maybe there's another
reason
why the
files were not copying to the location above

I guess I need to remove XP Pro SP2 from the first partition?

Where can I get the updates for drivers for Vista? Dell does not have
them
they say
they will not be available until 2007 when Vista ships.
Looking for Beta drivers that can be used, any thoughts.
 

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