Vista partition problem

[Guest]

I have installed winxp sp2 on C: and Vista Beta 2 5384 on D: when im on
windows vista everything is fine, the problem comes on when im on XP, seems
Vista mess up my drive.

Partition magic 8.0 detects drive problems and XP show me a new drive J:
with 0kb of storage and 0kb of free space, so i can´t resize or delete
partitions on my hard drive .

this is my configuration:

Hard Drive 1 Partitions: C(Primary, NTFS),D(Logical, NTFS)
Hard Drive 2 Partitions: F(Primary , NTFS)
Two Dvd Multi Recorders: E,G

The new partition is recognized as J(Logical, Type 8E ), and I don´t create
it, how this can be posible? might be because Vista changes Drive Letters?

I also have a Linux ex3 Partition and a swap partition none in use, I plane
to use them later.

remember the problem came when i installed Vista.

Thanks for read this post, if you have an answer post it. I´m a
medium-advance PC user.

Do not answer this post with another question.

Here is my hard drive 1 geometry:

PowerQuest PartitionInfo 8.0 -- Windows NT/2000 Version
Date Generated: 08/29/06 23:06:49
Copyright (c)1994-2002, PowerQuest Corporation

General System Information:
Total Physical Memory (bytes): 2,146,938,880
Used Physical Memory: (bytes): 501,432,320
Maximum Page File Size: (bytes): 4,294,967,295
Current Page File Size: (bytes): 0



===========================================================================================================
Disk Geometry Information for Disk 1: 9726 Cylinders, 255 Heads, 63
Sectors/Track
System PartSect # Boot BCyl Head Sect FS ECyl Head Sect
StartSect NumSects
===========================================================================================================
0 0 80 0 1 1 07 1023 254 63
63 62,926,542
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values are:
0 0 80 0 1 1 07 3916 254 63 63 62926542
0 1 00 1023 0 1 0F 1023 254 63
62,926,605 93,321,585
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values are:
0 1 00 3917 0 1 0F 9725 254 63 62926605 93321585
62,926,605 0 00 1023 1 1 07 1023 254 63
83,891,493 72,356,697
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values are:
62926605 0 00 5222 1 1 07 9725 254 63 83891493 72356697
62,926,605 1 00 1023 254 63 05 1023 254 63
62,926,606 208,844
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values are:
62926605 1 00 3917 0 2 05 3929 254 63 62926606 208844
Info: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 2.
62,926,606 0 00 1023 254 63 83 1023 254 63
62,926,731 208,719
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values are:
62926606 0 00 3917 2 1 83 3929 254 63 62926731 208719
Info: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 2.
62,926,606 1 00 1023 254 63 05 1023 254 63
63,135,450 20,755,980
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values are:
62926606 1 00 3930 0 1 05 5221 254 63 63135450 20755980
63,135,450 0 00 1023 254 63 8E 1023 254 63
63,135,513 20,755,917
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values are:
63135450 0 00 3930 1 1 8E 5221 254 63 63135513 20755917

 

[JCO]

Lots of talk about this already. PM is not compatible once Vista is
installed. Therefore, don't rely on what it says. Not sure what your issues
is, but PM won't work. The NTFS format is different from before. A new
(and better) NTFS is used only for Vista.

 

[Dennis Pack x64, v64B2 \(5384\), OPP2007B2]

Ivan:
PM8 won’t install on Vista, that’s where the incompatibility is, PM8
functions properly in XP or from the rescue disks (which I use). It looks
like the problem is that you installed Vista in a logical partition. For the
installation of an operating system the partition needs to be primary and
not hidden. I’ve used PM8 from the rescue disks to create, resize and move
partitions with XP, x64, Vista x64 and Vista x86 through the latest build
5536 for x86 on 3 test computers without a problem. Converting the logical
partition to primary help, drive letter designations can get juggled which
doesn’t hurt anything. Labeling the partitions is the best way to avoid
confusion if the letters get changed when switching operating systems.

 

[Chad Harris]

Hi Ivan--

If you didn't run your Vista setup from XP (you did well to always install
the oldest Windows first or you can run into big trouble with XP), then the
bios will dictate that change in drive letters. I believe the J came in
because you have two hard drives. This is becoming more critical because
more and more people are reporting on forums that with particularly older
machines even though they are P4 and older Mobos, that they can't run setup
from XP and install Vista, but they can do it perfectly on a restart. They
get a false "you need drivers for an IDE controller" error when they try to
setup from XP.

I'm going to try to see if I can get some information from some of the guys
on the Vista setup team to try to understand this soon.

Something you are vague (to me about). It's the statement

"I have installed Win XP Sp2 on C: and Vista Beta 2 5384 on D: when I'm on
Windows Vista, everything is fine. The problem comes on when I'm on XP,
[it seems like] Vista messes up my drive."

Ivan what's going on with XP? First can you boot to XP with no problem?
What does diskmanagement either from Vista since I know you can run it
booting to Vista (type diskmgmt.msc in run box) say about each drive? Can
you post that?

If you tell me it's more than the drive letter assignments, which I think
you can fix via the regedit, and you need help repairing XP let me know.

Keep this in mind: I've run hundreds of repair installs of XP with people,
and those who have had Linux on a dual or multiboot can't do a repair
install with Grub or Lilo onboard, because it interferes 100% of the time
with reaching the repair install setup when you try it booting from the XP
CD. Paradoxically, some of the Linux mavens are able to use Linux to repair
XP--and I'm not one of them but I've read a lot of interesting posts from
them and some on this newsgroup.


1) I can use PM 8.0 on Vista through 5536 (several previous builds back
through November with no problem).


2) As we have reiterated repeatedly Colin, myself, several others if you
install Vista from XP you will retain your current drive letters. If you
install from a restart, the bios will dictate the drive letters.

For example, if XP is on C:\ and you restart and use the Vista DVD, the
configuration will become XP on D:\ D will become E:\ E:\ will become C
and F:\will stay F:\.

You can't change this drive letter assignment with diskmanagement, but you
should be able to change this with a regedit:

Back up the reg via Export>Whole registry/or key radio button lower left
dialogue box>save to location of your choice. Fastest backup in the Windows
OS on the planet:

Registry Settings
System Key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\
DriveIcons]
Value Name: Default
Data Type: REG_SZ (String Value)


Open your registry and find the key below. If the key does not already exist
then create it.
Within the main key create a new sub-key with a single letter representing
the drive letter of the drive to be modified. (e.g. [HKEY...\DriveIcons\D])

Within the drive letter key create another sub-key called "DefaultIcon"
(e.g. [HKEY...\DriveIcons\D\DefaultIcon]) and set the "(Default)" value to
equal the fully qualified name of the icon file. If the file contains more
that one icon follow it with a comma and the zero-based index of the icon
(e.g. "c:\icons\myicons.dll,4").

Create another sub-key within the drive letter key called "DefaultLabel"
(e.g. [HKEY...\DriveIcons\D\DefaultLabel]) and set it's "(Default)" value to
equal the label for the drive letter (e.g. "My ZIP Drive").

For example: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
Software
Microsoft
Windows
CurrentVersion
Explorer
DriveIcons
D
DefaultIcon
(Default) = c:\icons\myicons.dll,4
DefaultLabel
(Default) = My ZIP Drive

You may need to restart Windows for the change to take effect, or press F5
to refresh My Computer.

Note: The "DefaultLabel" value only works with Windows 2000 and higher.

Good luck,

CH