All I was told was it was more robust. And was given a thrilling 60 hour
video explaining it all.
So you don't see any quarrel with a folder containing thousands upon
thousands of eml files?
Well many, MANY others, myself included, do, and my PC is damn quick.
My PC is no speed demon, P4, 2.53 GHz, PC800 RDRAM 1GB, two WD PATA drives.
As I said I have not seen any massive slow down with Windows Mail, nor have
I heard any one complaining about it loudly except for you. I accept that
doesn't mean some haven't experienced a problem with it. I just don't see
this huge permformance problem you're indicating.
Same comment as above.
Not to you. To me it's just another subtle example of the truly awful mess
of Windows Mail.
I don't see how that is an example of Windows Mail being an awful mess.
Haha, that would be even WORSE!
I don't want any program telling me what I should be looking at. I will
choose, thanks very much.
I would like to see some control in this area, some setting. I can see how
this is a matter of personal preference, but again it's not a huge issue,
except for you it seems.
Many disagree with this, myself included.
Many?
Because it's complexity for the sake of it imo.
It takes away reliable simplicity and effective function and replaces it
with unneeded intricacy.
It's not complex, it's flexible. It's just as easy to use. Yes it 's a
change but it's a very functional change. You can do so much more with it,
and do what was accomplished the the back button just as easily. As I said
before, and even more so after reading your reply, I just don't understand
the thinking.
From what I can recall, there's no information about the programs, and the
4 or 5 buttons on the left giving various functionality are all gone.
There is also no 'show updates' button.
I prefer having the updates in one spot with where they are now, under the
windows update section. The info give in XP's add/remove was useless.
There was no accuracy in when it was last used, etc. It did give you info
on the size, but so what. Changes were made to relocate the other options
that were on the left. I never used it much anyway, so I don't miss them
being gone from there.
Not for me. Everywhere I went I was being attacked by the tedious
dialogue.
Everywhere? Common, one of the problems I have with certain aspects of
your overview is the extremes that you go to in describing when something
doesn't work. UAC only comes up in certain situations. It does decrease
after the initial set up. Ok I can accept that it might irritate you like
finger nails on the black board, but I see it as a means of taking control.
Those who don't like it see it as the opposite.
Yes, it does. If you have no problem with being asked to confirm your
every move, that's your call.
It certainly doesn't ask "to confirm your every move". Hyperbole again. We
have to agree to disagree here. I see it as giving the OP control.
That's tolerance, nothing else.
And I don't want to use a PC I merely have to 'put up' with.
I don't see it as a tolerance issue. It gives me control. There is always
a shift in how one has to work when changing programs and especially with an
OS change. Life changes. We well never get close on this issue, which is
fine.
I don't deny this. But this is 6 years since the last one. It's the
longest gap afaik. There are more incompatibilities now than there were
with XP or any OS I can remember.
I don't see what the time gap has got to do with this. More or less? I
don't know. That is hard one to gage.
Put simply, I don't want to. And neither do millions of other. It's an
unnacceptable trade off.
But it goes with the territory of changing an OS. It has happened with each
new OS release. Why is it then more odious with Vista? I don't understand
your logic at all.
Which has been the same with other OS releases. Some do, some don't. I
don't see how you are going to change that.
I wouldn't use MS' own firewall if Gates himself paid me.
I don't see the logic in this statement other than some personal agenda.
But in any event 3rd party firewalls will be coming out. And anyway a
software firewall is not the end all of protection. They have their faults
and ways around them. There are those who argue that a software firewall is
a snake oil remedy.
If you want solid protection get a hardware firewall. But for most a
software firewall witih a NAT router with SPI, and some common sense works
just fine.
You said, "I don't strictly blame MS for this." Implies they have some
blame in this. Maybe they do since it's their OS design but I see it as
square on the shoulders of nVidia.
Again, consider yourself fortunate.
It's not the OS's fault it allowed a driver to kill it?
Do you see what my argument is trying to say here?
I understand your argument. I haven't had hardly any BSODs in XP and only
one in Vista. Are there fewer in Vista? I don't think there is enough data
to say one way or another. Can they be removed totally? I don't know, I'm
not a system programmer. It would be nice, but is it practical? I leave
that to others.
Surely seeing the likes of svchost (system fetch monitor) happily
crunching away at the HD for no conceivable reason is erroneous?
And it's by no means the only one. I just don't think 90% of the activity
is necessary.
How can you quantify that? And it's a big step between saying something is
not necessary and saying it's erroneous.
And yet you happily support UAC (Which Kerio Personal Firewall uses (can
be disabled)) and Windows Firewall?
There's a distinct discrepancy there.
I don't see it. If the defragger was extensively redone to provide bells
and whistles and the firewall was not, then use a 3rd party firewall and the
inbuilt defragger. I go with what works and suits my needs balanced by
cost.
Ditto my friend.
Some zealots on both sides will do exactly that. Some will aggressive
agree, and some will aggressively disagree.
As must you to have dismissed all the strengths I listed
No, no agenda on my part - I just assumed because I was posting to a Vista
NG that some of supporters would come out in staunch defence of it and
those who hate it would strongly support what I said.
Yup, Vista
(enjoyed your post btw - plenty to get my teeth into)
Same here, it was a discussion of views, not a rant or flame fest.
