Vista on an XP peer to peer LAN

[Guest]

I have set the vista "Home Pro" machine's network to Private but am still
unable to browse the LAN or share and use shared files. I can't even ping
the Vista machine. I can ping the XP machines from Vista however. Do I need
to install the LLTD Responder on the XP machines or is there something else I
am missing.

Thanks

 

[Guest]

When I try to ping the Vista machine from an XP machine, I get 4 request time
out responses. I have turned all the Windows Firewalls off. Some machines
have Norton Intarnet security and some have McAfee.

 

[Chuck]

I have set the vista "Home Pro" machine's network to Private but am still
unable to browse the LAN or share and use shared files. I can't even ping
the Vista machine. I can ping the XP machines from Vista however. Do I need
to install the LLTD Responder on the XP machines or is there something else I
am missing.

Thanks

Rusty,

The Responder is for a separate service. What do you mean by "can't ping"?
What error do you get?

One of the most common causes of this problem would be a misconfigured or
overlooked personal firewall, or other security component. What antitrojan /
antivirus do you have?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

 

[Chuck]

When I try to ping the Vista machine from an XP machine, I get 4 request time
out responses. I have turned all the Windows Firewalls off. Some machines
have Norton Intarnet security and some have McAfee.

Rusty,

Both Norton Internet Security, and the McAfee counterpart, are known offenders
here for your problem. You have to either configure each properly, or un
install, diligently using instructions from the vendor. And how did you "turn
Windows Firewall" off?

Ping, aka "ICMP Echo" is a pretty reliable process. I can identify 3 specific
scenarios where pings would result in 100% dropped packets.
# Hardware problem.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/dealing-with-physical-network-problems.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/dealing-with-physical-network-problems.html
# Personal firewall problem.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html
# LSP / Winsock problem.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html

 

[Guest]

Chuck,

Thanks for hanging with me. This particular network has several XP
machines, all with Norton or McAfee. All of them are able to talk without a
problem. I don't understand why the anti-virus programs are an issue only
with the addition of a Vista machine. I have turned off password protection
on the Vista. On the XP machines, if you go to "Windows Firewall" in the
Control Panel, the options are "On Recommended" and "Off Not Recommended". i
have turned everything off in an effort to connect. There are no user
accounts and no passwords. The shares on the Vista machine are set to
Everyone Full Control. Do I need User accounts or is there something I am
not seeing. I have been networking windows for 20 years. The Workgroups are
the same and " ipconfig/all" shows evrybody to be on the same network. If I
can't ping the IP address on the Vista machine, then it seems that there is
something on the Vista machine blocking traffic or is not set up correctly.
All Microsoft operating systems are fairly intuitve as far as configuring
networks manually. I seems that there is a new wall of security in Vista
that I am not addressing.

Thanks

 

[Chuck]

Chuck,

Thanks for hanging with me. This particular network has several XP
machines, all with Norton or McAfee. All of them are able to talk without a
problem. I don't understand why the anti-virus programs are an issue only
with the addition of a Vista machine. I have turned off password protection
on the Vista. On the XP machines, if you go to "Windows Firewall" in the
Control Panel, the options are "On Recommended" and "Off Not Recommended". i
have turned everything off in an effort to connect. There are no user
accounts and no passwords. The shares on the Vista machine are set to
Everyone Full Control. Do I need User accounts or is there something I am
not seeing. I have been networking windows for 20 years. The Workgroups are
the same and " ipconfig/all" shows evrybody to be on the same network. If I
can't ping the IP address on the Vista machine, then it seems that there is
something on the Vista machine blocking traffic or is not set up correctly.
All Microsoft operating systems are fairly intuitve as far as configuring
networks manually. I seems that there is a new wall of security in Vista
that I am not addressing.

Thanks

Rusty,

Windows Vista is basically Windows XP, with new wizards. You need to start with
the inability to ping. When you get that problem fixed, then look at file
sharing and permissions.

In my other reply (which you really should reply to), I listed 3 scenarios where
pings would be blocked. The functionality of "ICMP Echo" hasn't changed between
Windows NT / 2000 / XP / Vista. Maybe the firewall, or the firewall wizard, but
the ping command itself is the same. And so are the scenarios cited.

When you get past IP networking and into Windows Networking and file sharing,
you'll have new things to worry about. Worry about them when you get there. Is
Norton or McAfee installed on the Vista computer?

 

[Guest]

Chuck,

You pointed me correctly. The problem was in the Norton Firewall on the
Vista machine. In fact, that is why I couldn't even ping the Vista machine.
All is well now.

Thanks again,

 

[Chuck]

Chuck,

You pointed me correctly. The problem was in the Norton Firewall on the
Vista machine. In fact, that is why I couldn't even ping the Vista machine.
All is well now.

Thanks again,

Glad to be able to help, Rusty. Thanks for the feedback.