Vista is Crap

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I bought Vista Ultimate, thinking that I am moving with the time...

I am now asking this question, why does Microsoft sell this product before
it is even barely working? So many things not working!!! the list is
endless.....

It caused errors in printers, giving messages about the printer not
connected when it is perfectly connected, I was sent installation patch kits
that creats multiple copies of the same printer profile in the printers
folder.

I print a webpage into PDF onto desk top, it will not show the file on
desktop until maybe 15-20 minutes later!! After I thought it failed and do
it again, and again and again...
It Cannot open 2 Excel files at the same time...the machine hangs immediately.

Cannot install any simple pen/digitizer, the patch kit/driver for anything
to work with Vista is huge...
Downloading large files from the internet always fails, there is an
"invisible" time limit and it stops the downloading after a certain time.
Therefore patch kits/drivers for thing to support Vista cannot never be
downloaded properly...vicious circle, isn't it???

The orginally clear structure of all the commands are now funny
pictures...not in the same place etc...Crash, hanging, I don't have time to
waste mucking about with unfinished product.

I want my money back!! Plus compensation on time wasted & emotional
distress !!!
 
Very unhappy said:
I bought Vista Ultimate, thinking that I am moving with the time...

I am now asking this question, why does Microsoft sell this product before
it is even barely working? So many things not working!!! the list is
endless.....

It caused errors in printers, giving messages about the printer not
connected when it is perfectly connected, I was sent installation patch
kits
that creats multiple copies of the same printer profile in the printers
folder.

I print a webpage into PDF onto desk top, it will not show the file on
desktop until maybe 15-20 minutes later!! After I thought it failed and
do
it again, and again and again...
It Cannot open 2 Excel files at the same time...the machine hangs
immediately.

Cannot install any simple pen/digitizer, the patch kit/driver for anything
to work with Vista is huge...
Downloading large files from the internet always fails, there is an
"invisible" time limit and it stops the downloading after a certain time.
Therefore patch kits/drivers for thing to support Vista cannot never be
downloaded properly...vicious circle, isn't it???

The orginally clear structure of all the commands are now funny
pictures...not in the same place etc...Crash, hanging, I don't have time
to
waste mucking about with unfinished product.

I want my money back!! Plus compensation on time wasted & emotional
distress !!!

Did you do your homework and research the possible issues with Vista and
your current hardware? If not, then you have nothing to complain about. In
my case, I just purchased a Dell Inspiron 530 with Vista Home Premium.
While it immediately recognized and installed my Epson Stylus Photo R200
printer and my Samsung ML-1430 printer and my Epson Perfection 1650 scanner,
it does not get along with some of the software that came with the scanner
and ink jet printer. So those functions do not work under Vista.

You can't expect miracles. All three pieces of hardware do work, just not
with all the software that was included with them. I can't use the function
buttons on the scanner, for instance. Big deal! It scans just fine,
regardless.

Is your machine capable of running Vista Ultimate? And I don't mean just
the absolute minimum requirements. You need at least 2GB of RAM and you
should have a discrete video card with at least 128MB of RAM. Yes, you can
run Vista on systems with integrated video memory, but the consensus is that
a video card is really required to get Vista to perform.

What kind of internet connection are you using? There is no "time limit"
for downloading files as far as I can tell. I have just this week
downloaded three files each of which was just over 1.0 GB in size with no
issues of any kind. My DSL connection handled them all with no problems.

Finally, did you do a clean install of Vista Ultimate? Or did you attempt
an install over XP? Do the work and research required to use your copy of
Vista Ultimate. Then try the install again.
 
I suggest that you:

Learn how to use a computer
Be specific about your Hardware and Software.
Whether you built it, or you bought it.

You want compensation!
Be careful what you say about a Product which you have added to, and
obviously not set up properly, and not being used properly.
 
Very said:
I bought Vista Ultimate, thinking that I am moving with the time...

I am now asking this question, why does Microsoft sell this product before
it is even barely working? So many things not working!!! the list is
endless.....

It caused errors in printers, giving messages about the printer not
connected when it is perfectly connected, I was sent installation patch kits
that creats multiple copies of the same printer profile in the printers
folder.

I print a webpage into PDF onto desk top, it will not show the file on
desktop until maybe 15-20 minutes later!! After I thought it failed and do
it again, and again and again...
It Cannot open 2 Excel files at the same time...the machine hangs immediately.

Cannot install any simple pen/digitizer, the patch kit/driver for anything
to work with Vista is huge...
Downloading large files from the internet always fails, there is an
"invisible" time limit and it stops the downloading after a certain time.
Therefore patch kits/drivers for thing to support Vista cannot never be
downloaded properly...vicious circle, isn't it???

The orginally clear structure of all the commands are now funny
pictures...not in the same place etc...Crash, hanging, I don't have time to
waste mucking about with unfinished product.

I want my money back!! Plus compensation on time wasted & emotional
distress !!!

Nobody here can refund your money however some may be able to help
resolve a few of your problems. I agree it is very annoying to find
things that don't work but you have a couple of choices. You can
reinstall your old operating system, install something completely
different or try and get Vista working as you would like it to work. How
practical the last option is depends a lot on what hardware you have.

So first, if you decide to put an old system back, do you have a CD and
product key to do that?

If you want to get Vista working properly just ask, people will be
willing to try and help - but none can guarantee to fix everything at once.

If you decide you want to try something else it will involve spending a
few hours, I guess we will assume you had XP before. There are some
versions of Linux that you could use but if you want an easy path then
XP is probably it.

If you choose to try and get Vista working properly it would help people
to assist you if you could say a little about what hardware you have,
especially the bits causing you trouble, how much memory you have, and
whether you upgraded from XP (or something) to Vista or was it a clean
install.
 
Mick Murphy said:
I suggest that you:

Learn how to use a computer
Be specific about your Hardware and Software.
Whether you built it, or you bought it.

I Suggest that you Stop being a CoCkHEad. Just FYI
 
Your money back is easy if you live in North America:
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/productrefund/refund.mspx
As for compensation etc, it will probably never happen.
Like most products purchased, there is no entitlement to any
compensation other than refund of price paid.

"I was sent installation patch kits"
Contact whoever sent the kits.
Apparently something in their kits was not functioning properly.

"there is an "invisible" time limit"
That may be the server from where you are downloading or your ISP.
As long as you did not change settings in Windows, Vista is not the
cause.

"are now funny pictures"
A vague description, but it sounds like you did not install Windows
Vista drivers for your video card.

"Crash, hanging"
That could be almost anything.
A common cause is incompatible driver, bad memory, bad hard drive etc.
Before upgrading, did you verify Windows Vista compatibility of all
your essential hardware and software directly with their respective
manufacturers?
 
Mick said:
I suggest that you:

Learn how to use a computer
Be specific about your Hardware and Software.
Whether you built it, or you bought it.

You want compensation!
Be careful what you say about a Product which you have added to, and
obviously not set up properly, and not being used properly.


If he knew all the answers he wouldn't need to be here now, would he? :)
 
Very said:
I bought Vista Ultimate, thinking that I am moving with the time...


Why? Just to have the "newest and shiniest OS?" It's not like a
pair of shoes, a purse, or a cell phone where one must have the latest
style or model to be thought of as "cool," you know.

Be that as it may, *before* making the purchase and installing the new
OS, did you think to ensure that your computer's existing hardware
components were fully capable of supporting Vista and had
manufacturer-provided Vista specific device drivers available, that your
existing software applications were Vista-compatible or that updates
were available from their respective manufacturers to make them so, and
that your existing peripherals were either Vista-compatible or that
Vista-specific device drivers had been made available by the devices'
respective manufacturers? If you neglected to spend the requisite few
minutes doing any of the above, you've no one to blame for your current
situation but yourself.

I am now asking this question, why does Microsoft sell this product before
it is even barely working? So many things not working!!! the list is
endless.....

On the contrary, Vista works exceedingly well on fully capable and
compatible hardware with compatible applications and device drivers
installed. Granted, many 3rd party hardware manufacturers and software
vendors have been slow to provide adequate Vista support for their
products, but this isn't Microsoft's doing.

It caused errors in printers, giving messages about the printer not
connected when it is perfectly connected, I was sent installation patch kits
that creats multiple copies of the same printer profile in the printers
folder.


So, you lacked the proper Vista-compatible device drivers for your
printer, someone sent you something that caused more problems, and this
is somehow Microsoft's fault? How did you reach that conclusion? Have
you tried contacting the printer's manufacturer to obtain Vista-specific
device drivers and assistance? After all, this would be the only
possible source of a solution to a non-Vista problem.

I print a webpage into PDF onto desk top, it will not show the file on
desktop until maybe 15-20 minutes later!! After I thought it failed and do
it again, and again and again...


Since Vista has no capability of doing this natively, you must be
speaking of a 3rd party software application. Is that application
certified by its manufacturer as being Vista-compatible? If not, does
that application's manufacturer provide a patch or upgrade to make it
so? Have you even bothered to try using this mystery application in one
of Vista's available Compatibility modes? Again, how you could possibly
think this problem has anything to do with Microsoft and Vista is beyond me.


It Cannot open 2 Excel files at the same time...the machine hangs immediately.


What version of Excel? How large are the files in question? Most
importantly, how much RAM do you have? What have the experts in the
Excel and/or Office newsgroups had to say about this problem with
*Excel*, which is *NOT* part of Vista?

Cannot install any simple pen/digitizer, the patch kit/driver for anything
to work with Vista is huge...


Again, not a Vista issue. Take this up with the manufacturer(s) of
your pen/digitizer.

Downloading large files from the internet always fails, there is an
"invisible" time limit and it stops the downloading after a certain time.
Therefore patch kits/drivers for thing to support Vista cannot never be
downloaded properly...vicious circle, isn't it???


No such time limit in Vista. And Microsoft is hardly responsible for
the size of files you're trying to download from 3rd party sources.
Contact your ISP for assistance with this one. Before doing so,
however, make sure that you've downloaded and installed the current
Vista-specific device drivers for your network Adapter or Modem from its
manufacturer.


The orginally clear structure of all the commands are now funny
pictures...not in the same place etc...


Ah, the learning curve a bit too steep? What did you expect? Why
would Microsoft bother releasing a new operating system if it were going
to look and act just like its predecessors? As you dislike the Vista
interface, and as that is the single most conspicuous difference between
Vista and earlier versions of Windows, why did you even buy it? This
makes no sense. (Oh, that's right, I remember now; to keep up with
fashions, you said.) Anyway, disliking the default interface as you do,
have you even tried customizing it to meet your tastes? Why not use the
"Windows Classic" theme if you miss the "orginally [sic] clear
structure" (whatever that was) so much?

Crash, hanging, I don't have time to
waste mucking about with unfinished product.

The product is finished. Or rather, it's as "finished" as _any_
operating system is ever finished at this point in its life cycle;
there'll always be something more to do. If the computer is crashing
and hanging, it sounds very much as if you have woefully inadequate
hardware or improper device drivers. What are the specifics of your
computer's components?

I want my money back!! Plus compensation on time wasted & emotional
distress !!!


LOL. Take that up with the individual who is solely responsible for
your problems: yourself.

On the other hand, if you actually want help, leave the pointless and
lame scapegoating behind and post back with:

1) the technical specifications of your computer

2) the makes and models of troublesome peripherals

3) the names and versions of the 3rd party applications that aren't working

4) detailed descriptions of the problems, complete with verbatim error
messages, when applicable



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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

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killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
I purchased a new HP computer yesterday loaded with Vista Premium and cannot
get printer driver software to connect with printer. I also tried the hotfix
download but it does nothing!
 
Check with the printer manufacturer.
Have they made windows vista drivers for your printer?
If not ask them when or if they will support the needs of their
customers having that model printer.
 
It is a common problem. It has nothing to do with Vista at all, nothing.

You are using an old driver. Go to the manufacturer's website, enter your
printer's model number and most likely you will find a link that says
"downloads" Download a Vista driver for your precious printer and apologize
to Vista in writing.
 
TJ said:
I purchased a new HP computer yesterday loaded with Vista Premium and cannot
get printer driver software to connect with printer. I also tried the hotfix
download but it does nothing!


Are the drivers designed for Vista, or are you trying to load WinXP
drivers? Anyway, this isn't a problem with Vista; it's a problem for
the printer's manufacturer to resolve, if they so desire.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
I boughtVistaUltimate, thinking that I am moving with the time...

I am now asking this question, why does Microsoft sell this product before
it is even barely working? So many things not working!!! the list is
endless.....

It caused errors in printers, giving messages about the printer not
connected when it is perfectly connected, I was sent installation patch kits
that creats multiple copies of the same printer profile in the printers
folder.

I print a webpage into PDF onto desk top, it will not show the file on
desktop until maybe 15-20 minutes later!! After I thought it failed and do
it again, and again and again...
It Cannot open 2 Excel files at the same time...the machine hangs immediately.

Cannot install any simple pen/digitizer, the patch kit/driver for anything
to work withVistais huge...
Downloading large files from the internet always fails, there is an
"invisible" time limit and it stops the downloading after a certain time.
Therefore patch kits/drivers for thing to supportVistacannot never be
downloaded properly...vicious circle, isn't it???

The orginally clear structure of all the commands are now funny
pictures...not in the same place etc...Crash, hanging, I don't have time to
waste mucking about with unfinished product.

I want my money back!! Plus compensation on time wasted & emotional
distress !!!

For all the driver issues going from 32-bit XP to 32-bit Vista,
Microsoft would have been wise to focus on 64-bit Vista... then they
would at least have a better excuse. If the adoption rate doesn't
changeVista will go down in history as a transitional OS, maybe
slightly more popular than Windows ME. People in general just don't
like it too much it seems.
 
RMZ said:
For all the driver issues going from 32-bit XP to 32-bit Vista,
Microsoft would have been wise to focus on 64-bit Vista... then they
would at least have a better excuse. If the adoption rate doesn't
changeVista will go down in history as a transitional OS, maybe
slightly more popular than Windows ME. People in general just don't
like it too much it seems.
Well, people who post in newsgroups may not like it! I think Joe Average who
waltzes into Best Buy and picks up a new Vista laptop doesn't find too many
flaws with Vista. I switched from OS X and I think Vista is great. But I do
think that Microsoft should be focusing on 64 bit Vista a lot more. That is
where the future is.
 
average joe would be crying after trying to get vista to work properly for
several hours...

Vista is a waste of time money and energy
 
non flammable on WinLin said:
average joe would be crying after trying to get vista to work properly for
several hours...

Vista is a waste of time money and energy

Mean like YOU are a waste of space and air, and can't even do something as
simple as set up an operating system?
 
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