Vista Defrag shuts down

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When I start the defragmenter it analysis the drive and says it should be
dfragmented. It runs for about 10 mins then stops and re analysis the drive
again and says it should be defragmented. Anyone have a solution or an idea
on how to stop this from happening?
 
Yes,

Don't use the hard drive when it is doing a defrag. Don't modify or change
anything, basically, go rent a couple of movies and let the machine do its
thing. Modifying files on the computer, even if you didn’t think you
modified anything, even opening a file, can mess up defrag. However, if you
use Windows Live OneCare, this will not happen.
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To me Disk Defragmenter in Vista is a joke, but it's not funny. I recommend
using PerfectDisk, not only has more options and flexibilities, it does what
it says does at much quicker speed.
 
VistaUltimate said:
To me Disk Defragmenter in Vista is a joke, but it's not funny. I
recommend
using PerfectDisk, not only has more options and flexibilities, it does
what
it says does at much quicker speed.
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Sure if you like watching colored blocks shake and move, by all means waste
your money on a 3rd party defragmener.
 
Hi,
I don´t yet have Vista (is coming).
Try to avoid having other programma´s running , for sure not Zone Alarm or
any virusscanner, internet connection.
What you report is a known fact by ME-users.
Sometimes even the screensaver has to be disabled.

I fully agree with the comments of Rock and others, try to avoid as less as
possible third programm´s.

As far as i am informed by now, i am intended only to use a virusscanner,
Firewall & Defender should be ok.

Further comments welcome.

Regards
Huib
 
Yes,

Don't use the hard drive when it is doing a defrag. Don't modify or change
anything, basically, go rent a couple of movies and let the machine do its
thing. Modifying files on the computer, even if you didn¢t think you
modified anything, even opening a file, can mess up defrag. However, if you
use Windows Live OneCare, this will not happen.
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If I tell Vista to defrag just one HDD does it automatically start
defragging all the HDD's on my PC? I don't want it defragging my XP HDD
too, just the Vista one but it seems there is no such option and it defrags
all of the HDD's and partitons.
 
Pipboy said:
If I tell Vista to defrag just one HDD does it automatically start
defragging all the HDD's on my PC? I don't want it defragging my XP HDD
too, just the Vista one but it seems there is no such option and it
defrags
all of the HDD's and partitons.
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You can specify which hard drive to defrag by using the command line tool.
From an elevated command prompt do defrag /? to see the options.
 
You can specify which hard drive to defrag by using the command line tool.
From an elevated command prompt do defrag /? to see the options.
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OK, thx. But why no GUI to do that anymore?
 
Pipboy said:
OK, thx. But why no GUI to do that anymore?
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There has been much discussion on this. If you want the full version do
some searching in the Vista newsgroups for defrag. The GUI was removed
basically because it was inaccurate. It was set up to run in the background
at a time when the computer is not normally used, so it basically handles it
without user intervention.

If you have the strong need to see colored blocks shake and move get one of
the 3rd party defragmenters such as Raxco Perfect Disk or Diskeeper. I
think it's a waste of money though. For the most part on today's hardware
fragmentation is not a significant impediment to performance. The built in
tool does just fine.
 
Sure if you like watching colored blocks shake and move, by all means waste
your money on a 3rd party defragmener.
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I've got PerfectDisk and I don't watch colored blocks shake and move.
It runs in the background.

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If you have the strong need to see colored blocks shake and move get one of
the 3rd party defragmenters such as Raxco Perfect Disk or Diskeeper. I
think it's a waste of money though. For the most part on today's hardware
fragmentation is not a significant impediment to performance. The built in
tool does just fine.
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I already have PerfectDisk but I need to buy the upgrade for it to be Vista
compatible. It's not that I want to see the coloured blocks, I just don't
want the Vista defrag running in the background all the time. If I use PD I
can turn off the Vista defrag from doing that.
 
Pipboy said:
I already have PerfectDisk but I need to buy the upgrade for it to be
Vista
compatible. It's not that I want to see the coloured blocks, I just don't
want the Vista defrag running in the background all the time. If I use PD
I
can turn off the Vista defrag from doing that.
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Well doesn't matter if you're using the built in defrag or Raxco Perfect
Disk, if you are going to run one, it will run. I don't understand your
logic. The built in one, by default is set to run at a late hour, I think
like once a week. It won't be running all the time in the background. So
what exactly is your concern?
 
Scott said:
I've got PerfectDisk and I don't watch colored blocks shake and move.
It runs in the background.
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Then way by a 3rd party defragmenter? It isn't like Raxco PD is going to
give some major performance improvement over the in built one.
 
Rock said:
Then way by a 3rd party defragmenter? It isn't like Raxco PD is going to
give some major performance improvement over the in built one.
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That should read, "why buy", wow, I didn't proof read that before sending
it...lol.
 
Well doesn't matter if you're using the built in defrag or Raxco Perfect
Disk, if you are going to run one, it will run. I don't understand your
logic. The built in one, by default is set to run at a late hour, I think
like once a week. It won't be running all the time in the background. So
what exactly is your concern?
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No, I read the Vista defrag runs in the background when your computer is
idle whether it is scheduled to run or not. I have already turned off the
scheduled defrag task. With PD I can have it run only when I want and only
the HDD's I want it to defrag without having to use a command line. It's
just about convenience and not which is better.
 
Defrag will not run every time your machine goes idle.

Defrag in Vista will run at the time that it is scheduled to run. By default
this is once per week on Wednesday at 1am.
If you are using your computer when defrag is scheduled to run, then defrag
will not run. It will wait until your machine is next idle, and then begin
to run. If you come back to your machine and start using it, defrag will be
stopped, and then restart when your machine goes idle again.

If your machine is turned off when defrag is scheduled to run, it will start
approximately 30 minutes after you next start your PC.

Defrag runs at low memory, CPU and disk IO priority to minimize any
noticeable performance impact on your machine. The idea is that 'it just
works'. The machine is regularly defragmented without the user having to
think about doing it.
 
Pipboy said:
No, I read the Vista defrag runs in the background when your computer is
idle whether it is scheduled to run or not. I have already turned off the
scheduled defrag task. With PD I can have it run only when I want and only
the HDD's I want it to defrag without having to use a command line. It's
just about convenience and not which is better.
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You shouldn't believe everything you read, eh. It doesn't run in the
background if it's not scheduled to run or if you didn't tell manually start
it. With the scheduler, once it starts it runs till it finishes, and then
doesn't run again until the next schedule.

You certainly must decide what works for you, but it's hard to understand
what could be more convenient than to have the built in defragmenter run in
the background at a time you are not using the computer. You never have to
be aware it's running. Yes with that it does defrag all drives.
 
You shouldn't believe everything you read, eh.
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Considering it was on the Microsoft Vista features website why shouldn't I
believe it? Read the below then STFU. I don't play nice when people start
to get all smarmy. Neither you nor the other jackass know what you are
talking about. Defrag on Vista runs in low priority mode when you are using
your computer and not just when it is scheduled to do so.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/features/details/performance.mspx

Windows Vista introduces the concept of low-priority I/O, which enables
background processes to run with lower-priority access to the hard disk
drive than other programs. If an application is written to use low-priority
I/O, it can run at the same time as one of your high-priority programs,
such as Microsoft Office Outlook, without slowing down the high-priority
program. In Windows Vista, a number of services use low-priority I/O,
including search indexing, automatic disk defragmentation, and the daily
system scan in Windows Defender.

Automatic disk defragmentation.

Infrequent disk defragmentation leads to an inefficient layout of files on
the hard disk, which can slow PC performance. Windows Vista includes a new
disk defragmenter that runs in the background and automatically defragments
the hard disk as need arises. The new disk defragmenter no longer needs to
complete its work in a single session¡Xit can defragment incrementally,
whenever the computer is idle.
 
It doesn't run in the
background if it's not scheduled to run or if you didn't tell manually start
it. With the scheduler, once it starts it runs till it finishes, and then
doesn't run again until the next schedule.
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Um, that's how it runs on XP if you have it in your task schedules. Vista
does it differently but can also run on a task schedule. I've disabled that
task schedule in Vista but defrag still runs in low priority mode without
my intervention. That's why I would rather use PerfectDisk because I can
then completely disable the Vista defrag from doing anything.
 
Pipboy said:
Considering it was on the Microsoft Vista features website why shouldn't I
believe it? Read the below then STFU. I don't play nice when people start
to get all smarmy. Neither you nor the other jackass know what you are
talking about. Defrag on Vista runs in low priority mode when you are
using
your computer and not just when it is scheduled to do so.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/features/details/performance.mspx

Windows Vista introduces the concept of low-priority I/O, which enables
background processes to run with lower-priority access to the hard disk
drive than other programs. If an application is written to use
low-priority
I/O, it can run at the same time as one of your high-priority programs,
such as Microsoft Office Outlook, without slowing down the high-priority
program. In Windows Vista, a number of services use low-priority I/O,
including search indexing, automatic disk defragmentation, and the daily
system scan in Windows Defender.

Automatic disk defragmentation.

Infrequent disk defragmentation leads to an inefficient layout of files on
the hard disk, which can slow PC performance. Windows Vista includes a new
disk defragmenter that runs in the background and automatically
defragments
the hard disk as need arises. The new disk defragmenter no longer needs to
complete its work in a single session¡Xit can defragment incrementally,
whenever the computer is idle.
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That doesn't mean it runs when it's not scheduled to run. If you schedule
it to run at a certain time it runs and completes. It won't then run on its
own.
 
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