Vista beta2 Installation Error

[Chad Harris]

Vasu--I have a question. Are you installing from this DVD (forgive me if
I've missed it but I had to work over nite last nite not much sleep) from
the XP setup as in a dual boot or as a boot to your drive from start using
that DVD--because we've covered a lot of factors that can go wrong. While
most of the time I have put different Vista builds on a dual boot FROM XP, I
have found that sometimes they won't install from XP but will install by
booting from starting the computer using the DVD. I can't explaint that,
but if you haven't it's worth trying.

I hope to post my adventures along those lines and look forward to hearing
some comments from everyone as to what might be in play there.

CH

 

[Chad Harris]

I am glad you're getting the Core 2 duo because

1) I can live vicariously through your adventures with that bad boy like
watching the old James Bond movies
2) I hope you will post a good deal about it and look forward to some
comprehensive comments.

I finally got my HP 5300 scanjet driver into 5472--it was the one holdout.
I hope to hear your comments on something that happend with 5472 DVD
refusing to boot running setup from XP with many trys saying the IDE
controller could not work on the drive and it needed "drivers" and I didn't
have a SATA or RAID array on that box but booting right away from a dead
start (and the hardware advisor which is just not accurate as you probably
understand about what will and will not work in Vista--not that I'd expect
it to be perfect but the paranoid in me says they are trying to sell OEM
boxes so they are going to err on the side of conservativism and nugdge
sales rather than accuracy.

CH

 

[Guest]

CH
yes I have tried both whenever i tried to do a clean install I get thius
error :
""Setup failed to open the windows image file" after entering activation key.
and I am not able to proceed further.

From XP , if I put the DVD , it autoruns and give this error:

"The application or DLL G:\sources\SPWIZENG.DLL is
not a windows image. Please check this against your installation diskette"

Also I am not able to copy majority of contents from DVD to harddisk , nor
am I able to create a copy of this DVD .

SO is it the optical drive , Inever had any problem with it, & it read all
DVDs except this one.
I will upgrade the firmware & check again.
I am very eager to find the reason for this error as many others are also
facing it.
vasu

 

[Mark D. VandenBeg]

Which is why CPP is intended for developers, IT professionals, and
technology specialists and is not a consumer preview.

Intended? Absolutely! In practice? Not so much... The unwashed masses,
such as myself, can not help ourselves!

The x64 .iso size for 5384 is 4.2 and for 5472 it is 3.6, so I was off on
the 5384 size. It has been steadily going down since its high point of
over 5GB. This is mostly due to the shifting of drivers from the WIM file
to the Windows Update servers.

That's what; eight builds ago? Totally understandable but I'm glad I am not
totally insane.

As far as XP Pro x64 is concerned, it is a lot more common among the CPP
folks than it is in the general computing public. Several folks who post
here regularly (Jane C, for one if I remember right) use it. A lot of the
folks who post in the microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general ng are
testing Vista also. Don't discount it. Those inherently interested in
operating systems are good candidates for both XP x64 and Vista beta.

Agreed. I don't discount it at all, and in fact, encourage it. But I'll
bet you a virtual garage in Second Life that the OP is not aware of a 64-bit
version of XP

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Sure, but that is not how MS judges who is a beta tester testing Vista.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Not only is the Vista Upgrade Advisor too generous by half, but so is the
Compatibility Report you get when you elect to do an upgrade rather than a
custom installation. I have gotten to where I remove anything mentioned and
not just "contact the manufacturer for updates."

I will be posting some impressions of the new system. It is supposed to
ship today via next day air (after a three week delay for the backordered
Core 2 Duo E6600).

 

[Mark D. VandenBerg]

Sure, but that is not how MS judges who is a beta tester testing Vista.

Perception is reality.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Tell it to the IRS.

Perception is reality.

 

[Mark D. VandenBerg]

--
Mark

My favourite so far: Unknown device has been correctly installed.

Tell it to the IRS.

Totally off topic:

My trust fund was supposed to be released to a post office mail box
corporation in the Caymans. The law firm that has handled my family's
business for almost three centuries made an error and released it in Canada
instead. Revenue Canada wants their 65 % and the IRS wants their 35%. This
has been going on for three years, and I now must make a trip to Rotterdam
for a deposition. Needles to say this has been quite an ordeal. My family,
including a past CEO of RaboBank, has threatened removing all business.
Needless to say, this has been an adventure in global law, on my part. I
will be in Rotterdam for two weeks after Labour Day, just to see what
happens next.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Ouch.

--
Mark

My favourite so far: Unknown device has been correctly installed.




Totally off topic:

My trust fund was supposed to be released to a post office mail box
corporation in the Caymans. The law firm that has handled my family's
business for almost three centuries made an error and released it in
Canada instead. Revenue Canada wants their 65 % and the IRS wants their
35%. This has been going on for three years, and I now must make a trip
to Rotterdam for a deposition. Needles to say this has been quite an
ordeal. My family, including a past CEO of RaboBank, has threatened
removing all business. Needless to say, this has been an adventure in
global law, on my part. I will be in Rotterdam for two weeks after Labour
Day, just to see what happens next.

 

[Mark D. VandenBerg]

Ouch.

Not for me, as I have recourse of malpractice. But ouch for the law firm: I
assume my uncle has a little pull in the business, and my cousin has a
business that is in the $30-40 million a year range that is wondering why he
keeps his business there if that's how they treat family members (and has
told them in no uncertain terms). This is a s^&tstorm about to erupt with
one of the most prestigious law firms in the world and I have no way of
controlling it. My uncle and the senior managing partner in Netherlands are
canasta partners, and when Uncle Chris mentioned the little problem the
other day... well lets just say a bunch of Dutch lawyers got on a plane to
Toronto. My guess is, somebody screwed up and tried to hide it from the
head office, and now it's all coming to a head. I'm just a pawn in the
whole process but my guess is after a few hundred years of over-billing,
they will step to the window and do the right thing. Either way, two weeks
at the beach house and a couple of meetings won't hurt my feelings.

 

[Chad Harris]

I really look forward to this because besides what I can read on the hdw
sites like www.extremetech.com and all the other usual suspects, I am very
interested in *your* impressions of this new box. I hope it's everything
you want it to be, and I especially want to hear some of the "compare and
contrasts" of the duo core from your other pcs and your Mac machine(s).

1) When you say "generous by half" Colin, do you mean it's conservative. I
think it's a great concept and they'll get better but I just noted in
another post on the other group it's not accurate. Also there was a setup
can't continue message I got with respect to wanting drivers for an IDE
controller that wasn't accurate about the setup of 5472.

2) When you say you remove anything do you mean you unhook anything
mentioned.? Can you parse this a little. You mean becaue you are afraid
that those mentioned items if not unplugged will interfere with you getting
through the Vista setup?

In my case they were saying couldn't install (I had not seen it in any
other build) 5472 from XP and I had to restart and it went in fine. I want
to pitch that problem to you as a separate post later today or tomorrow to
hear your reaction to this. This was not the frequent situation where
people can't continue setup with SATA or RAID arrays because they have to
stop and install the correct drivers for those in setup.

In my case, there was only one HD on the box so there wasn't anything I
could disconnect unless I were to have literally disconneected my Sound card
and an optical drive (a CD writer I just didn't bother to pull out) that now
really has no use since there is a DVD writer on board too.

CH

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

According to the FedEx tracker I will have it by Friday afternoon.

I already know one difference between the Core 2 Duo and the Core Duo in the
MacBook Pro: temperature. The Core 2 Duo is supposed to run about 40%
cooler.

The reviewers say the Sandra overall performance rating for the board/cpu I
chose is about 6500. That's at least interesting for a desktop. More when
it is here and in use. To put it mildly, I don't expect to have time to
pour the coffee while the system boots up like I have had on my P4
Northwood.

As for "generous by half" I mean too liberal, not too conservative. Some of
the posts I've been reading say that the advisor passed some items that it
perhaps should not have. It may be more accurate on individual items than
on the combinations of those items.

Well, I unhook unneeded usb devices because I have seen for myself that some
usb devices are OK under XP but not under Vista. Vista seems to have
narrower tolerances than XP and so some devices that passed Windows testing
under XP may not have under Vista.

What I really meant to say was that any software even mentioned by the
Compatibility Report (not the upgrade advisor report but the report Setup
gives you before starting the upgrade process) comes off the system. Once
an incompatible program is reinstalled by Vista during the upgrade process
it can be nearly impossible to get it off again. I don't think that is
Vista's fault as much as it is the way the misbehaving software was written.

 

[Guest]

Still no solution? :-(