Vista annoyance# 467684 (versus WindowsXP)

[ROBERT MACK]

When I type a long article in Notepad & paste into WindowsMail line breaks
become messed up, forcing me to go back to editing "business" and
click/delete redundant line breaks as often as there're lines in a document,
if it's 1000 lines, go ahead and spend time clicking for an hour!
This make plain text editor unworkable In Vista +WindowsMail environment,
due to weird linebreaks handling.

Why do I claim it to be weird?
BECAUSE IT WAS PERFECT IN WindowsXP. I could create a simple ad/artcile in
Notepad, copy/paste into OutloookExpress --> Newsgroup posting or Email, and
no linebreaks stupidity.

Another hemorrhoid in Vista, sometimes I have a forbidden thought:
If WinXP could live for another 10 years albeit with security updates & new
hardware drivers that would be nice. When I hear "Vista" it causes
heartburn.

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

How are you controlling line length in Notepad?
Are you hitting Enter only at the end of a paragraph?

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

I've never attempted to use Notepad as my editor since I do
all my email composing right inside the email compose screen.

When using Windows Mail in Plain Text format, the line breaks
are controlled by the setting under Tools, Options, Send,
Mail Sending Format, Plain Text Settings. However, the final
line breaks aren't inserted until after you hit Send.
Have you tried using HTML format?

 

[Eric]

That's not a Vista problem. That's related to your OE setup. I'm running
WinXP with OutlookExpress for newsgroups and when I post a message without
line breaks and read it back in after it's posted it gets hard line breaks
in the middle.

People want to blame all their PC problems on Vista but I'm running Vista at
home and haven't really had any problems. Most problems are from people
trying to do more than their PC is capable of, like running Vista with Aero
theme enabled with 2GB RAM or less. I recommend running Vista Premium with
a nice core duo machine with 4 GB RAM (top end laptop or mid range desktop).
If you want it to run smooth, dumb it down. If you want bells and whistles,
pay for the hardware.

 

[Lorin]

I have a Quad Intel with 4G RAM and Vista (and friends) eat up memory like
mad.
So much so, that I wrote a RAM monitor to watch RAM use so I can boot Vista
when it eats too much.
Some programs will not run with Vista when memory gets below 1G.
Currently I have about 900MBytes available out of 4G.
Vista is a hog.
Time to boot.

 

[Mark Levitzki]

i type until it wraps and starts typing on next line. i dont insert
artificial Enter/breaks - they're created after pasting into Mail OR
Newsgroups

 

[Mark Levitzki]

wordwrap's always been on since 1992. 17 years, in all Windows form 3.1 to
WinXP, only Vista fouls up everything, a horrible product

 

[Rainald Taesler]

That's not a Vista problem. That's related to your OE setup. I'm
running WinXP with OutlookExpress for newsgroups and when I post a
message without line breaks and read it back in after it's posted it
gets hard line breaks in the middle.

You are overlooking that OE <> WinMail.

Rainald

 

[Rainald Taesler]

When I type a long article in Notepad & paste into WindowsMail line
breaks become messed up, forcing me to go back to editing "business"
and click/delete redundant line breaks as often as there're lines in
a document, if it's 1000 lines, go ahead and spend time clicking for
an hour!
This make plain text editor unworkable In Vista +WindowsMail
environment, due to weird linebreaks handling.

I can not reproduce this in my system.
With word-wrap enabled everything gets inserted in WinMail the same way
as it was typed in Notepad.

Why do I claim it to be weird?
BECAUSE IT WAS PERFECT IN WindowsXP. I could create a simple
ad/artcile in Notepad, copy/paste into OutloookExpress --> Newsgroup
posting or Email, and no linebreaks stupidity.

Just tested it. It works the same way as it did in OE under XP.

Another hemorrhoid in Vista, sometimes I have a forbidden thought:
If WinXP could live for another 10 years albeit with security updates
& new hardware drivers that would be nice. When I hear "Vista" it
causes heartburn.

IMO this ranting is good for nothing.
Just try to get used to Vista. I prefer it by far over old XP. And mist
serious obstacles are just due to the mental reservations in the side if
users.

Rainald

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Sorry, Lorin,
your remarks are TOT in this group.

Rainald

 

[Mark Levitzki]

Please go back and read my original post CAREFULLY.

I said problem started after upgrading to moronic Vista along with its
WindowsMail crap that by the way required numerous patches to allow opening
Word doc, Adobe PDF, etc attachments folrm email instead of saving and
opening separately, just another Vista's "accomplishment".

I didn't fight with this in WinXP or OE.
It's Windows Mail problem along with Vista in general.
Let's see how WIndows7 fixes all these thousands of bugs

 

[popcorn]

Robert, about the time you get your problem worked out, then Windows 7 will
hit the market and and you will have to start all over again.
Sometimes I wonder if its worth trying to work Vista problems out.

 

[Mark Levitzki]

I use notepad when posting the same Ad several times, just save it once and
use Insert-->tex tcommand or copy/paste, and it worked fine in WinXP, but
Vista with its WInMail inserts awful line breaks

 

[Mark Levitzki]

I use notepad when posting the same Ad several times, just save it once and
use Insert-->tex tcommand or copy/paste, and it worked fine in WinXP, but
Vista with its WInMail inserts awful line breaks

 

[Mark Levitzki]

Vista is rubbish

 

[Mark Levitzki]

I will try to force OE to work on Win7. I've done things others claimed
tobe "impossible".
i was happy with OE. Simple yet functional, i am not attracted to shiny
objects tha tVista and Live applications are

 

[Mark Levitzki]

OK, i guess something's different in our setups

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Robert, about the time you get your problem worked out, then Windows
7 will hit the market and and you will have to start all over again.
Sometimes I wonder if its worth trying to work Vista problems out.

Sorry, but what "Robert Mack" posted is a pseudo-problem at its best
:-( :-(

There are not really may problems with Vista which would need to be
worked out.

Rainald

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Notepad Format | Word wrap <=uncheck

 

[Rainald Taesler]

I use notepad when posting the same Ad several times, just save it
once and use Insert-->tex command or copy/paste, and it worked fine
in WinXP, but Vista with its Winmail inserts awful line breaks

As said before:
I'm unable to see the effect you are complaining about.
No extra linebreaks on my side.

Rainald