Vista And Ram

[Rock]

Whatever...
I know a system runs better with 50% of 2gb rather than 100% of 1gb.
I don't care how... it simply does.

That has nothing to do with unused RAM sitting around doing nothing versus
taking that same RAM and populating it with data. You're analogy doesn't
apply.

 

[Julian]

That is also the beauty of the genius "ReadyBoost". Instead of quickly
moving the cache to disk it can move it to the flash drive whichto 10x
faster than disk access. If not using readyboost,I would really suggest
doing so considering how cheap they are these days.

Whoever wrote it up on Wiki wasn't that impressed...
"The performance improvement seen by using this idea is questionable [1]. In
the cases where a system has 512MB of RAM (the bare minimum for Windows
Vista - not advisable), the largest gains are 7%. However, on systems with
1GB or more, Readyboost has a negligible effect (small enough to be
experimental error)."

 

[Julian]

That has nothing to do with unused RAM sitting around doing nothing versus
taking that same RAM and populating it with data. You're analogy doesn't
apply.

'k

 

[DanR]

Well, if page files are slower then RAM but not so slow that this user would
notice the difference than why have more than ½GB of RAM. Just let the
memory swap places continuously. We all know that's not a good idea. So I
wonder if Vista (Windows in general) is wise enough to just let go of
certain data in memory when new bits are asking to get in.

 

[Pete Russell]

"So I wonder if Vista (Windows in general) is wise enough to just let go of
data in memory when new bits are asking to get in."

Yes it is, Does a good job at it. I run alibre design 3d cad on vista and it
has no problems.

 

[Lord Takyon]

Yeah, but it's still nice to have a lump.

For what exactly? Your running progs get as much as they need, the rest is
basically filled up with stuff you regularly use, so if you launch any of
these apps they start quicker.

Trust me, it does help. It is a bit weird trying to work in that manner,
especially after years of trying to keep RAM clear. If a running app wants
more memory then some if this cached stuff is dumped almost instantly and
the space is given to the running app that wants it.

That is how I understand it at a basic level, I am sure someone here will
correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Lord Takyon]

Whatever...
I know a system runs better with 50% of 2gb rather than 100% of 1gb.
I don't care how... it simply does.

Your argument is flawed my friend. You need to get a better understanding
of how it works.

 

[Lord Takyon]

That is also the beauty of the genius "ReadyBoost". Instead of quickly
moving the cache to disk it can move it to the flash drive whichto 10x
faster than disk access. If not using readyboost,I would really suggest
doing so considering how cheap they are these days.

Whoever wrote it up on Wiki wasn't that impressed...
"The performance improvement seen by using this idea is questionable [1].
In the cases where a system has 512MB of RAM (the bare minimum for Windows
Vista - not advisable), the largest gains are 7%. However, on systems with
1GB or more, Readyboost has a negligible effect (small enough to be
experimental error)."

I experimented with Ready Boost, no difference for me. However my brother
does notice a difference with it, very strange. Very possibly tied to both
the actual machine AND the users usage.

 

[Lord Takyon]

Im am properly pushing my luck running vista on a :-

2.8ghz processor

1gb ram

360 and a 80 Gb SATA hard drive

256 Video card

Soundblaster audigy ZS

The problem is when im on the desktop, I am using 57% of my memory on the
computer. I was wondering If anyone had any ideas on how i can lower this

Tom.

I currently run a 1Gig system, but I only use 34% once it has booted and
settled down. You need to look at what crap is running in the background.

 

[Lord Takyon]

Vista does a much better job of memory management than XP. It tries hard
to find a use for all memory, caching files and programs based on past
history so they are available in fast RAM if you need them. If another
process needs memory, it is freed from caching and available. The myth of
having a bunch of free RAM is just that, a meaningless myth.

I have to say it was weird at first seeing all my RAM used all the time, but
this system does run well. It previously had XP on, and the usage speed of
Vista is just as fast as XP ever was, but I get the added bonus of it seems
so much smoother, everything opens fast and runs well, practically no
bottlenecks and slowing of this machine, and trust me, my machines work
hard.

 

[Conor]

Im am properly pushing my luck running vista on a :-

2.8ghz processor

1gb ram

360 and a 80 Gb SATA hard drive

256 Video card

Soundblaster audigy ZS

The problem is when im on the desktop, I am using 57% of my memory on the
computer. I was wondering If anyone had any ideas on how i can lower this

You can't. A great deal of that memory is used by Prefetching and is
released as soon as its needed.

 

[Conor]

Why since it's of no use?

It is being used.

 

[Julian]

Your argument is flawed my friend. You need to get a better understanding
of how it works.

That's a stroke of luck... I'm here to learn.
(Thus, must err.)

 

[Pete Russell]

Yes, From what I make of it. If you have a consistent pattern of system
usage it will spoeed it up more for you because the superfetch will be able
to clearly tell what programs you are going to use and offload them to the
readyboost instead of the hard drive. Also if you have a slow HD as in a
laptop you will likely see a larger difference that someone running a high
speed disk on a desktop.

That is also the beauty of the genius "ReadyBoost". Instead of quickly
moving the cache to disk it can move it to the flash drive whichto 10x
faster than disk access. If not using readyboost,I would really suggest
doing so considering how cheap they are these days.

Whoever wrote it up on Wiki wasn't that impressed...
"The performance improvement seen by using this idea is questionable [1].
In the cases where a system has 512MB of RAM (the bare minimum for
Windows Vista - not advisable), the largest gains are 7%. However, on
systems with 1GB or more, Readyboost has a negligible effect (small
enough to be experimental error)."

I experimented with Ready Boost, no difference for me. However my brother
does notice a difference with it, very strange. Very possibly tied to
both the actual machine AND the users usage.

 

[Pete Russell]

It is now called superfetch and the system cache. just FYI

 

[Conor]

It is now called superfetch and the system cache. just FYI

I was trying to rack my brains to remember its proper name so prefetch
ended up being bashed out on the keys.

 

[Pete Russell]

Yeah, Vista can do that to ya.

I was trying to rack my brains to remember its proper name so prefetch
ended up being bashed out on the keys.


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Conor

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