viscious crash cycle

B

boris

Hi. I'm new to this group and I need help figuring this problem out.
My XP system seems to be on a . After booting it
starts loading Windows and then goes to the "blue screen of death"
with a message about the memory dump. It bypasses the Safe Mode (no
response to F8) and doesn't boot from the CD.
Thanks in advance. Boris
 
N

nass

boris said:
Hi. I'm new to this group and I need help figuring this problem out.
My XP system seems to be on a . After booting it
starts loading Windows and then goes to the "blue screen of death"
with a message about the memory dump. It bypasses the Safe Mode (no
response to F8) and doesn't boot from the CD.
Thanks in advance. Boris


This can indicate hardware problem. Did you tried Last Good know
configuration?
What you mean by bypass (safe mode) or you can get the Boot menu options at
all?
Does your machine get overheated?

HTH,
nass
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D

David B.

In the future if you must post to more than one group, crosspost, do not
multipost. See the link in my signature for more info.
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

boris said:
Hi. I'm new to this group and I need help figuring this problem out.
My XP system seems to be on a . After booting it
starts loading Windows and then goes to the "blue screen of death"
with a message about the memory dump. It bypasses the Safe Mode (no
response to F8) and doesn't boot from the CD.
Thanks in advance. Boris

Your statement "it doesn't boot from the CD" tells us next to nothing. How
did you try to get it to boot of the CD? What happened? What messages did
you see on the screen?
 
R

Randem

You need to give more information about the crash.

1 - When did this start.

2 - What did you change in your system.

3 - What is the error message.

BTW: some computer will not boot from the CD unless you change the boot
priorty in the bios or hit F12 to change the boot order.

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B

boris

Your statement "it doesn't boot from the CD" tells us next to nothing. How
did you try to get it to boot of the CD? What happened? What messages did
you see on the screen?

In BIOS I disabled all boot devices but the CD ROM but that hasn't
affected what the system does. It keeps booting from HD and crashing.
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

Your statement "it doesn't boot from the CD" tells us next to nothing. How
did you try to get it to boot of the CD? What happened? What messages did
you see on the screen?

In BIOS I disabled all boot devices but the CD ROM but that hasn't
affected what the system does. It keeps booting from HD and crashing.

=============

The usual method is to make the CD drive the primary boot device and to
ensure that all other devices occur lower down in the list. If this does not
work then you have a couple of options:
- Read the motherboard manual that came with your PC.
- Post this part of the question in a hardware newsgroup. It is obviously
not related to Windows.
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

Your statement "it doesn't boot from the CD" tells us next to nothing. How
did you try to get it to boot of the CD? What happened? What messages did
you see on the screen?

In BIOS I disabled all boot devices but the CD ROM but that hasn't
affected what the system does. It keeps booting from HD and crashing.

==============

As an afterthought: You must make sure that you're booting from a genuine
and bootable Windows XP installation CD. Best to test it on some other
machine.
 
B

boris

In BIOS I disabled all boot devices but the CD ROM but that hasn't
affected what the system does. It keeps booting from HD and crashing.

==============

As an afterthought: You must make sure that you're booting from a genuine
and bootable Windows XP installation CD. Best to test it on some other
machine.

I'll try that. Thank you.
 
B

boris

You need to give more information about the crash.

1 - When did this start.

2 - What did you change in your system.

3 - What is the error message.

BTW: some computer will not boot from the CD unless you change the boot
priorty in the bios or hit F12 to change the boot order.

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It started a week ago when I'd tried to set up home network and tried
to change XP network settings. Now, the blue screen error message is:
STOP. c000021Á Fatal system error. Windows subsystem system process
terminated unexpectedly. If I select a different Windows logon it just
restarts without any error messages.
 
R

Randem

Restart in Safe mode with networking then deselect anything you have
selected or run a restore point.

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You need to give more information about the crash.

1 - When did this start.

2 - What did you change in your system.

3 - What is the error message.

BTW: some computer will not boot from the CD unless you change the boot
priorty in the bios or hit F12 to change the boot order.

--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generatorhttp://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
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Restarthttp://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

It started a week ago when I'd tried to set up home network and tried
to change XP network settings. Now, the blue screen error message is:
STOP. c000021Á Fatal system error. Windows subsystem system process
terminated unexpectedly. If I select a different Windows logon it just
restarts without any error messages.
 
B

boris

Restart in Safe mode with networking then deselect anything you have
selected or run a restore point.

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Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generatorhttp://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
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It started a week ago when I'd tried to set up home network and tried
to change XP network settings. Now, the blue screen error message is:
STOP. c000021Á Fatal system error. Windows subsystem system process
terminated unexpectedly. If I select a different Windows logon it just
restarts without any error messages.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It doesn't respond to F8. Is there another way to start Safe Mode?
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

Restart in Safe mode with networking then deselect anything you have
selected or run a restore point.

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It started a week ago when I'd tried to set up home network and tried
to change XP network settings. Now, the blue screen error message is:
STOP. c000021Á Fatal system error. Windows subsystem system process
terminated unexpectedly. If I select a different Windows logon it just
restarts without any error messages.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It doesn't respond to F8. Is there another way to start Safe Mode?

============

The F8 function is inherent to the WinXP boot loader. If it does not work on
your machine then you're pressing F8 at the wrong time or else your keyboard
is defective.

If you can access drive C: then you can modify the hidden file c:\boot.ini
by modifying this line
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin
to read like so:
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin /safeboot:minimal /sos /bootlog
/noguiboot
in order to force a boot into Safe Mode.
 
B

boris

It doesn't respond to F8. Is there another way to start Safe Mode?

============

The F8 function is inherent to the WinXP boot loader. If it does not workon
your machine then you're pressing F8 at the wrong time or else your keyboard
is defective.

If you can access drive C: then you can modify the hidden file c:\boot.ini
by modifying this line
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin
to read like so:
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin /safeboot:minimal /sos /bootlog
/noguiboot
in order to force a boot into Safe Mode.

Thanks for that tip. How do I access this c:\boot.ini file if the
Windows keeps shutting itself off automatically?
I just tried booting from the floppy boot disk I made but that didn't
work either (it didn't go to floppy drive as the 1st boot device). I'm
puzzled.
 
R

Randem

If you have another computer that you can use atach it to that one either in
a USB enclosure or as a slave drive then repair the File system with chkdsk
/f then you can change the file.

More reference:
http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

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It doesn't respond to F8. Is there another way to start Safe Mode?

============

The F8 function is inherent to the WinXP boot loader. If it does not work
on
your machine then you're pressing F8 at the wrong time or else your
keyboard
is defective.

If you can access drive C: then you can modify the hidden file c:\boot.ini
by modifying this line
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin
to read like so:
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin /safeboot:minimal /sos /bootlog
/noguiboot
in order to force a boot into Safe Mode.

Thanks for that tip. How do I access this c:\boot.ini file if the
Windows keeps shutting itself off automatically?
I just tried booting from the floppy boot disk I made but that didn't
work either (it didn't go to floppy drive as the 1st boot device). I'm
puzzled.
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

It doesn't respond to F8. Is there another way to start Safe Mode?

============

The F8 function is inherent to the WinXP boot loader. If it does not work
on
your machine then you're pressing F8 at the wrong time or else your
keyboard
is defective.

If you can access drive C: then you can modify the hidden file c:\boot.ini
by modifying this line
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin
to read like so:
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /noexecute=optin /safeboot:minimal /sos /bootlog
/noguiboot
in order to force a boot into Safe Mode.

Thanks for that tip. How do I access this c:\boot.ini file if the
Windows keeps shutting itself off automatically?
I just tried booting from the floppy boot disk I made but that didn't
work either (it didn't go to floppy drive as the 1st boot device). I'm
puzzled.

==================

You must modify the BIOS boot selection page so that the machine uses drive
A: as its primary boot device. If you think you have already done this and
it does not work then I recommend that you ask a computer-savvy friend to
assist you as this would be the second item that works on *every* PC except
on yours.

To access your hard disk outside Windows you could boot the machine with a
Bart PE boot CD. Making such a CD is not exactly a trivial matter.
 
B

boris

Thanks for that tip. How do I access this c:\boot.ini file if the
Windows keeps shutting itself off automatically?
I just tried booting from the floppy boot disk I made but that didn't
work either (it didn't go to floppy drive as the 1st boot device). I'm
puzzled.

==================

You must modify the BIOS boot selection page so that the machine uses drive
A: as its primary boot device. If you think you have already done this and
it does not work then I recommend that you ask a computer-savvy friend to
assist you as this would be the second item that works on *every* PC except
on yours.

To access your hard disk outside Windows you could boot the machine with a
Bart PE boot CD. Making such a CD is not exactly a trivial matter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I kept changing BIOS settings to boot from Floppy and/or CD, I even
disabled HDD from boot devices; I also tried pressing 0 at power-up to
format HDD - all for nothing. It still boots only from HD and crashes
sometimes without showing any error messages. I wish my system was
more like every other PC.
How do you make Bart PE boot CD?
 
B

boris

If you have another computer that you can use atach it to that one eitherin
a USB enclosure or as a slave drive then repair the File system with chkdsk
/f then you can change the file.

More reference:http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

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Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generatorhttp://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
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Thanks for that tip. How do I access this c:\boot.ini file if the
Windows keeps shutting itself off automatically?
I just tried booting from the floppy boot disk I made but that didn't
work either (it didn't go to floppy drive as the 1st boot device). I'm
puzzled.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, I have another system but it runs Vista not XP. Does it matter?
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

Thanks for that tip. How do I access this c:\boot.ini file if the
Windows keeps shutting itself off automatically?
I just tried booting from the floppy boot disk I made but that didn't
work either (it didn't go to floppy drive as the 1st boot device). I'm
puzzled.

==================

You must modify the BIOS boot selection page so that the machine uses
drive
A: as its primary boot device. If you think you have already done this and
it does not work then I recommend that you ask a computer-savvy friend to
assist you as this would be the second item that works on *every* PC
except
on yours.

To access your hard disk outside Windows you could boot the machine with a
Bart PE boot CD. Making such a CD is not exactly a trivial matter.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I kept changing BIOS settings to boot from Floppy and/or CD, I even
disabled HDD from boot devices; I also tried pressing 0 at power-up to
format HDD - all for nothing. It still boots only from HD and crashes
sometimes without showing any error messages. I wish my system was
more like every other PC.
How do you make Bart PE boot CD?

===============

You open Google and type these words into the search box:

Bart PE boot CD
 
R

Randem

No, it does not.

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If you have another computer that you can use atach it to that one either
in
a USB enclosure or as a slave drive then repair the File system with
chkdsk
/f then you can change the file.

More
reference:http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938

--
Randem Systems
Your Installation Specialist
The Top Inno Setup Script Generatorhttp://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to
Restarthttp://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938







Thanks for that tip. How do I access this c:\boot.ini file if the
Windows keeps shutting itself off automatically?
I just tried booting from the floppy boot disk I made but that didn't
work either (it didn't go to floppy drive as the 1st boot device). I'm
puzzled.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, I have another system but it runs Vista not XP. Does it matter?
 

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