Visat and home networking

[oscar]

I just purchased a Dell laptop today. Has 2.1 GHz Core2Duo, Vista Home
Premium, lots of other great stuff.
Within 5 minutes I was able to network the new Dell with my other three home
office computers using wireless network (Netgear wireless router.) Of the
three other computers, two are older XP's and the other a Sony Vaio with
Vista Home Premium.
All I did was go to Network and Sharing Center and turned Discovery and File
Sharing On. That's it.
I was swapping files with the other three computers. No sweat. In 5 minutes.
It took me about 7 minutes to print from the new Dell to the home office
shared printer, but that was my fault because I hadn't clicked on the printer
in the "View computers and devices" and chose the shared printer to be the
Dell's
printer, too. My bad.
Morale of this story: Vista works. It works great. Much better than XP did.
The new Dell Vista is eventually going to replace one of my slow (and
outdated) XP's. Vista works great. Period.

Happy holidays!

 

[Mick Murphy]

You conveniently forgot a few things!
1. You would have HAD to change the Workgroup name in either XP or Vista
computers to the same name.
2. You have to install a Vista compatible Printer Driver in your NEW dell.
3. Did you set up XP file and printer sharing in XP?
4. The BS goes continues with you.

 

[Gordon]

You conveniently forgot a few things!
1. You would have HAD to change the Workgroup name in either XP or Vista
computers to the same name.

Not if the workgroup already used the default MS workgroup name, no, he
wouldn't.

2. You have to install a Vista compatible Printer Driver in your NEW dell.

Agree there.

3. Did you set up XP file and printer sharing in XP?

Obviously it already was set up - as he already HAD a network.

4. The BS goes continues with you.

And with you too. Now I remember why I killfiled you.

 

[Mick Murphy]

3. Did you set up XP file and printer sharing in XP?

Obviously it already was set up - as he already HAD a network.

Obviously, YOU know NOTHING about Networking XP and Vista!
It is often a necessity to re-run the Wizaed in XP.

AND, if you killfiled me, why are you replying, LOSER!

 

[Mick Murphy]

1. You would have HAD to change the Workgroup name in either XP or Vista

computers to the same name.

Not if the workgroup already used the default MS workgroup name, no, he
wouldn't.


XP is MSHOME.
Vista is WORKGROUP

You just made a bigger idiot of yourself!
LOSER.

 

[Mick Murphy]

I expect an apology.

And furthmore, idiot; unless he turned Password Protected OFF, he would have
to make exact same user accoubts on ALL machines.

Read how it is supposed to be done, you IDIOT.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall (or LAN allowed, depending on how their
Exceptions are worded in their Firewall)

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, and no
identical usernames/passwords, you will be asked for a username and password
when you try to access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista
computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing
Wizard, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to adding a Vista computer
to it(redoing the Wizard seems to work for XP machines!).

In “My Network Placesâ€: “Set up a Home or Small Office Networkâ€
OR under Accessories > Communications > Network Setup Wizard > Allow File
and Printer Sharing.

 

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

You conveniently forgot a few things!
1. You would have HAD to change the Workgroup name in either XP or
Vista
computers to the same name.

No you don't. Vista and XP work just fine when on separate workgroups.
Putting them in the same workgroup just makes them show up in the
"Computers near me" list.

 

[Gordon]

No you don't. Vista and XP work just fine when on separate workgroups.
Putting them in the same workgroup just makes them show up in the
"Computers near me" list.

And in anycase, if the OP had accepted the default Workgroup name in both
cases, they would have been in the same workgroup anyway!

 

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

And in anycase, if the OP had accepted the default Workgroup name in
both cases, they would have been in the same workgroup anyway!

It depends on which XP version you are talking about. In XP Home, the
default was MSHOME. In XP Pro, it was WORKGROUP.

 

[Mick Murphy]

You are an IDIOT!
--
Mad Mike

And in anycase, if the OP had accepted the default Workgroup name in both
cases, they would have been in the same workgroup anyway!

 

[Mick Murphy]

Yes, you do!
--
Mad Mike

No you don't. Vista and XP work just fine when on separate workgroups.
Putting them in the same workgroup just makes them show up in the
"Computers near me" list.

 

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

Yes, you do!

Then explain how it is working fine for me with several Vista PCs in two
different workgroups that are able to access several XP PCs in 2
completely different workgroups, and vice-versa? I don't think you
understand the concept of workgroups and how they fit into the Microsoft
networking framework.

On the other hand, maybe I should just scold them and tell them they
shouldn't be doing that, and they will quit...

 

[Bill Yanaire]

Not if the workgroup already used the default MS workgroup name, no, he
wouldn't.


Agree there.


Obviously it already was set up - as he already HAD a network.


And with you too. Now I remember why I killfiled you.

You must not have done a good job with your killfile task. You replied to
his post. Again, Gordon is a bit S.L.O.W. in the vista.general group.
Maybe you should increase your medication.

 

[Mick Murphy]

I think you had better go and look in networking.sharing Newsgroup.
And agrue with the MVPs there.

 

[Mick Murphy]

And by the way; this is about Home Networking, not Domains!
There happens to be a big difference.
READ the OP's original post!

 

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

And by the way; this is about Home Networking, not Domains!
There happens to be a big difference.
READ the OP's original post!

I did read the OP's post, carefully. And all of the posts I replied to
as well.

I'm not talking about domains. Read my post, I'm talking about
workgroups. It works. Always has. I would say always will, but you
never know what MS will do to break backward compatibility.

 

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

I think you had better go and look in networking.sharing Newsgroup.
And agrue with the MVPs there.

I might just go look and see what is happening in that group, it has
been a while since I subscribed. But since it works, and always has, I
suspect I won't find any networking MVPs that will argue otherwise...

 

[Mick Murphy]

I am sick of your garbage here.
Go to vista.networking_sharing and READ all the info supplied there by MVPs,
Malke in particular, and myself.

Goodbye, and good riddance to you.

 

[Mick Murphy]

Hehe.
--
Mad Mike

You must not have done a good job with your killfile task. You replied to
his post. Again, Gordon is a bit S.L.O.W. in the vista.general group.
Maybe you should increase your medication.

 

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

I am sick of your garbage here.

If by garbage, you mean that my posts contain actual, tested, accurate
information, then you sure have a strange way of thinking.

Go to vista.networking_sharing and READ all the info supplied there by
MVPs,
Malke in particular, and myself.

Frankly, I could care less what you and Malke post in the networking
group if it is inaccurate.

I'll tell you again - it works. It is working right here, right now.
It always has. Different workgroup names have never, and are not
intended to, prevent access between machines. They simply make the
network look more organized when you use MS's tools to view the network.
Have you actually tried it or are you relying on someone else's data?

Goodbye, and good riddance to you.

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