virtual memory sizes question

[zero]

I have 2gb ram and my C hard has 5gb free
my other hd has some 60gb free. (F unit)

What is the best way to set virtual memory in this case?
I have it in determined by system on C (file page)

wouldn't be better to

a) use not page file at all
b) use determined by system on F unit hd
c) use 512 for min and 512 for max on F
d) other?

Here's the amount of memory used usually:

Totals
Identifiers 10183
Subprocesses 464
Proceses 42

Physical (kb)
Total 2096672
Available 1563616
System Cache 513536

Transactions load
Total 434256
Limit 4039992
Max 434256


Memoria del nucleo ?
Total 66196
Paginated 47352
Non paginated 18844




BTW is it possible to limit the amount of RAM a process uses?
I have an antispam that takes some 52 gb ram because it takes a percentage
of ram available. In other pcs with less ram uses less than that and I think
52 for that program is a waste...

PS: Sorry for the gif, I never do but it is necessary this time in
particular

 

[JS]

You might find reading the numerous post to a similar question posted by
Beemer (5/11 titled: Disappearing pagefile) on:
microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics group

JS

 

[zero]

Thank you but though I added that newsgroup and saw the threads
didn't help much and it's not my problem what Beemer describes...
I asked about recommended size not dissapearing pagefile


"JS" <@> escribió en el mensaje
You might find reading the numerous post to a similar question posted by
Beemer (5/11 titled: Disappearing pagefile) on:
microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics group

JS

 

[JS]

I'm surprised by now you have not received any replies. Sorry the post by
Beemer didn't help any.
In my case with both PC's (one has 2GB of memory and a 2GB pagefile). In
both cases each PC has a single set pagefile located on my 3rd hard drive
and none on the boot/system partition (C: drive). I know that this is not
what some will recommend as there is no way to handle a dump, but it works
for me. The PC with 2GB is used for scanning and editing large photos.

JS

 

[AJR]

Big mistake to "eliminate" page file - you will then be posting about poor
performance. Recommended Virtual memory size is 1.5 times installed RAM.

Move pageing file to the F drive - you did not mention size of C but as HD
"fills" performance suffers.

 

[Jim]

I have 2gb ram and my C hard has 5gb free
my other hd has some 60gb free. (F unit)

What is the best way to set virtual memory in this case?
I have it in determined by system on C (file page)

wouldn't be better to

a) use not page file at all Absolutely not
b) use determined by system on F unit hd Yes
c) use 512 for min and 512 for max on F

How do you know that these sizes are correct?

d) other?

Best solution:
Small pagefile on C because Windows needs one almost immediately during
startup
System configured size on F because you probably won't need to worry about
this problem again.
I say probably because there might be some situations where system selected
size is less than ideal (I haven't seen one yet though)

Here's the amount of memory used usually:

Totals
Identifiers 10183
Subprocesses 464
Proceses 42

Physical (kb)
Total 2096672
Available 1563616
System Cache 513536

Transactions load
Total 434256
Limit 4039992
Max 434256


Memoria del nucleo ?
Total 66196
Paginated 47352
Non paginated 18844




BTW is it possible to limit the amount of RAM a process uses?
I have an antispam that takes some 52 gb ram because it takes a percentage
of ram available. In other pcs with less ram uses less than that and I
think
52 for that program is a waste...

There may be, but you will need to do your own searching.
As for whether that amount is a waste or not depends on what the program is
doing.
Perhaps you should first consider the question of how a program can use 52
gb of ram when the
design of the cpu limits the amount of physical memory to 4 gb.
Furthermore, Windows limits your
virtual memory (per process) to at most 3 GB.

PS: Sorry for the gif, I never do but it is necessary this time in
particular

Jim

 

[Swifty]

Thank you but though I added that newsgroup and saw the threads

didn't help much and it's not my problem what Beemer describes...
I asked about recommended size not dissapearing pagefile

This gets very complicated, but my simple recommendation is that the
more memory you have, the smaller your pagefile should be. I can quote
the reasoning behind this, if you like.

I had 1Gb RAM with a 1Gb page file. I added a 2nd 1Gb RAM, so I could
clearly get by with no pagefile, but I chose to set it down to 512Mb. No
matter how much memory you have, some page file space is useful.

A colleague once complained that their pagefile was tiny and never grew
any larger, like everyone else's. I told them that they had a hardware
problem; "excessive simms", and that they should open up their PC,
remove one of the simms, and send it to me. I don't know why, but people
rarely take my advice. This one certainly didn't.

 

[zero]

I'm using now a 3000 kb page file in my second hard drive with 63gb free
Min and max are set both in 3000 (1.5 my 2gb of ram) I hope it works



"Jim" <[email protected]> escribió en el mensaje

I have 2gb ram and my C hard has 5gb free
my other hd has some 60gb free. (F unit)

What is the best way to set virtual memory in this case?
I have it in determined by system on C (file page)

wouldn't be better to

a) use not page file at all Absolutely not
b) use determined by system on F unit hd Yes
c) use 512 for min and 512 for max on F

How do you know that these sizes are correct?

d) other?

Best solution:
Small pagefile on C because Windows needs one almost immediately during
startup
System configured size on F because you probably won't need to worry about
this problem again.
I say probably because there might be some situations where system selected
size is less than ideal (I haven't seen one yet though)

Here's the amount of memory used usually:

Totals
Identifiers 10183
Subprocesses 464
Proceses 42

Physical (kb)
Total 2096672
Available 1563616
System Cache 513536

Transactions load
Total 434256
Limit 4039992
Max 434256


Memoria del nucleo ?
Total 66196
Paginated 47352
Non paginated 18844




BTW is it possible to limit the amount of RAM a process uses?
I have an antispam that takes some 52 gb ram because it takes a percentage
of ram available. In other pcs with less ram uses less than that and I
think
52 for that program is a waste...

There may be, but you will need to do your own searching.
As for whether that amount is a waste or not depends on what the program is
doing.
Perhaps you should first consider the question of how a program can use 52
gb of ram when the
design of the cpu limits the amount of physical memory to 4 gb.
Furthermore, Windows limits your
virtual memory (per process) to at most 3 GB.

PS: Sorry for the gif, I never do but it is necessary this time in
particular

Jim

 

[Zilbandy]

A colleague once complained that their pagefile was tiny and never grew
any larger, like everyone else's. I told them that they had a hardware
problem; "excessive simms", and that they should open up their PC,
remove one of the simms, and send it to me. I don't know why, but people
rarely take my advice. This one certainly didn't.

I feel for ya. I haven't found anyone that wants to send me a couple
of 512mb simms for my laptop either. LOL There's a good article about
the swap file at this URL:
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

 

[Zilbandy]

I'm using now a 3000 kb page file in my second hard drive with 63gb free
Min and max are set both in 3000 (1.5 my 2gb of ram) I hope it works

Take a look at this article about the page file. Your settings may not
be quite correct.
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

I have 2gb ram and my C hard has 5gb free
my other hd has some 60gb free. (F unit)

What is the best way to set virtual memory in this case?
I have it in determined by system on C (file page)

wouldn't be better to

a) use not page file at all

No. That would prevent your using all your RAM.

b) use determined by system on F unit hd

You mean use the Windows recommendations? That isn't a terrible choice.

c) use 512 for min and 512 for max on F

No.


d) other?

If you want to use custom settings (not necessary, in my view), make the
initial size small--200-300MB and the maximum size very large. Put it on C:
If F is a separate physical drive (not a partition on the same drive as C
you can instead put it there, but keep a small page file on C: too.

The best info on the page file is in this article by the late MVP Alex
Nichol: "Virtual Memory in Windows XP"
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.php