View the Earth with this NASA tool.

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Bob Adkins

If you have a spare partition now is the time to create an image.

DrvImagerXP v2.2:

http://www.softpedia.com/public/cat/13/2/13-2-39.shtml

The Windows Ultimate Boot Cd contains image programs also.


I think I'm going to give it a shot.

What have you heard about Dot Net v1.1? I've had it installed for
quite awhile now. I think I started with v1.0 and updated when v1.1
became available.

Did it add a user to Windows XP that's hard to remove? That's the main
complaint I'm hearing. I have a strong dislike for having to log in and type
a password on my own machine. ;)

-- Bob
 
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REM

Did it add a user to Windows XP that's hard to remove? That's the main
complaint I'm hearing. I have a strong dislike for having to log in and type
a password on my own machine. ;)

No, it works fine. There is no way to know it is installed, other than
in running a .net app or add\remove, that I see.
 
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ozzy

It is a great program, John :)

I installed it on mine & the detail is spectacular! I've come to expect nothing
less from NASA.Shortly after I showed the neighbor what it had to offer, it was
installed Thursday on their computer. Their younger kids are now addicted :)

Neighbors used to complain to me that all their kids did was come home from
school & either watch tv or play xbox/n64/ps2 :(

Now they can't get them off this NASA thingy..... they are constantly looking
at new places and phenomena & then doing inet research on the new place they
just discovered to learn more about it... hmmm I don't see the downside. Kids
are actively learning & whether they read a book or read the same info on the
inet, I see no difference :) win win IMO.

Maybe the novelty will wear off in a few weeks, maybe it won't. I'm hoping they
keep their inquisitive minds and pursue this further. I just hope NASA doesn't
run out of cool stuff to offer the kids :)

BTW, mom & dad have to go out & get a new computer now. Kids on the NASA
learning thingy have priority.

ozzy
 
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Tim Weaver

Bob said:
I don't like it, but I'm still here Junior. Guess what? You're not.
<plonk>

You got *plonked*, /3iff. Just LOOK OUT! That flying debris is dangerous!
 
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John Corliss

ozzy said:
It is a great program, John :)

I installed it on mine & the detail is spectacular! I've come to expect nothing
less from NASA.Shortly after I showed the neighbor what it had to offer, it was
installed Thursday on their computer. Their younger kids are now addicted :)

Neighbors used to complain to me that all their kids did was come home from
school & either watch tv or play xbox/n64/ps2 :(

Now they can't get them off this NASA thingy..... they are constantly looking
at new places and phenomena & then doing inet research on the new place they
just discovered to learn more about it... hmmm I don't see the downside. Kids
are actively learning & whether they read a book or read the same info on the
inet, I see no difference :) win win IMO.

Maybe the novelty will wear off in a few weeks, maybe it won't. I'm hoping they
keep their inquisitive minds and pursue this further. I just hope NASA doesn't
run out of cool stuff to offer the kids :)

BTW, mom & dad have to go out & get a new computer now. Kids on the NASA
learning thingy have priority.

Ozzy,
Well, I'm glad it's a nice program. However, being a user of
Millennium Edition and don't have the dotnet framework installed, I
can't run it so now I'm jealous as hell.

I wonder is NASA is in cahoots with Microsoft? 80)>
 
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Alastair Smeaton

Ozzy,
Well, I'm glad it's a nice program. However, being a user of
Millennium Edition and don't have the dotnet framework installed, I
can't run it so now I'm jealous as hell.

I wonder is NASA is in cahoots with Microsoft? 80)>

If it is any consolation John, it seems a difficult program to use -
difficulty is that since it was publicised on slashdot, take up has
been so great that all the servers cannot cope with the demands for
data download - I cannot get to see any great detail at all :-(

Will persevere though - is Celestia comparable, or is it for the
starry sky rather than the Earth ?
 
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REM

Alastair Smeaton <[email protected]> wrote:
If it is any consolation John, it seems a difficult program to use -
difficulty is that since it was publicised on slashdot, take up has
been so great that all the servers cannot cope with the demands for
data download - I cannot get to see any great detail at all :-(

Eek! Do you mean that the portions you want to zoom in on are
downloaded on demand? If so, it's not going to do me much good on a
dialup.
 
J

John Corliss

Alastair said:
If it is any consolation John, it seems a difficult program to use -
difficulty is that since it was publicised on slashdot, take up has
been so great that all the servers cannot cope with the demands for
data download - I cannot get to see any great detail at all :-(

Will persevere though - is Celestia comparable, or is it for the
starry sky rather than the Earth ?

Starry sky. However, if you install the "Blue Marble" NASA Earth image
(90 mb!!!) into Celestia, there's a lot of detail you can zoom in on.
Probably not as much as World Wind though.
 
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Roger Hunt

omega said:
Roger won't be back here to talk with you for a few days, John.
Due to the fact that I have emailed his wife...
(Evening dear ... Clunk! Crash! Aaarghhh!)
 
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ozzy

If it is any consolation John, it seems a difficult program to use -
difficulty is that since it was publicised on slashdot, take up has
been so great that all the servers cannot cope with the demands for
data download - I cannot get to see any great detail at all :-(
I have AMD 64bit 3400+ processors & >2gb ram with several sata raid drives so
I don't expect everyone to see the same, superb detail but the neighbors only
have a P4 2GHz with 128MB graphics card and they are doing ok so far. Much
slower than mine but acceptable.

Other friends are using P3 866 with 512MB video card with no major grief except
that screen redrawing is slower due to the cpu load only not the graphics card.
NASA does recommend P3 1GHz & up only though.

I've had a few requests to *make* it work without dotnet. As John C. & others;
I neither have dotnet installed but then I do all sorts of weird things to my
software that is not supposed to happen :)

If I have any reliable success with *fixing* win9x or win ME, I'll post here.
Several of my friends have kids & they can't afford to rush out & buy a newer,
faster computer. They have asked me to get the damn thing working for their
kids cause their friends can all play with it :(

hmmm.... me thinks i've created a monster..... :(

ozzy
 
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Tim Weaver

ozzy said:
I have AMD 64bit 3400+ processors & >2gb ram with several sata raid
drives so I don't expect everyone to see the same, superb detail but the
neighbors only have a P4 2GHz with 128MB graphics card and they are
doing ok so far. Much slower than mine but acceptable.

Other friends are using P3 866 with 512MB video card with no major grief
except that screen redrawing is slower due to the cpu load only not the
graphics card. NASA does recommend P3 1GHz & up only though.

I've had a few requests to *make* it work without dotnet. As John C. &
others; I neither have dotnet installed but then I do all sorts of
weird things to my software that is not supposed to happen :)

If I have any reliable success with *fixing* win9x or win ME, I'll post
here. Several of my friends have kids & they can't afford to rush out &
buy a newer, faster computer. They have asked me to get the damn thing
working for their kids cause their friends can all play with it :(

hmmm.... me thinks i've created a monster..... :(

I finally installed this and it works great. Beautiful pics and animations.
I don't understand about the .NET needing to be installed, though. I didn't
have .NET installed, but let it happen during the WW install. Then went to
Windows Update to get the latest patch for it (figures!). I made sure my
services were setup as I normally have them and .NET was not running.
Before, after and even while WW was running, .NET never fired itself up. I
ran WW with and without .NET running and I can't tell the difference.
 
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REM

I finally installed this and it works great. Beautiful pics and animations.
I don't understand about the .NET needing to be installed, though. I didn't
have .NET installed, but let it happen during the WW install. Then went to
Windows Update to get the latest patch for it (figures!). I made sure my
services were setup as I normally have them and .NET was not running.
Before, after and even while WW was running, .NET never fired itself up. I
ran WW with and without .NET running and I can't tell the difference.

The .NET are the runtime libraries for several languages, Visual
Basic, C++, C#, etc. They are on the path, so whenever one is required
it is simply there if you have .NET installed.
 
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Tim Weaver

REM said:
The .NET are the runtime libraries for several languages, Visual
Basic, C++, C#, etc. They are on the path, so whenever one is required
it is simply there if you have .NET installed.

The service never starts running. I can even run it with the service
disabled. .NET is just another layer of crap and probably a security risk
(can you say DCOM?) like to much of their stuff. If this program used .NET
the service would start. It doesn't. At least, hasn't so far.
 
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REM

The service never starts running. I can even run it with the service
disabled. .NET is just another layer of crap and probably a security risk
(can you say DCOM?) like to much of their stuff. If this program used .NET
the service would start. It doesn't. At least, hasn't so far.

Browse your Windows directory and look for the MICROSOFT.NET
directory. There are executables for wizards and for updating the
package in mine, but the main purpose is to have commonly used .dll
files all in one neat place on your drive, so that when you download
an app, like World Wind, almost everything you need is on your drive.

..NET is not a "service" that "runs," as I understand it anyway. It is
a collection of basic files used in programs written within the .NET
environment. It is not necessary to include these files in the
download, as you have them now, a one time download.

I suspect the World Wind file contains a small executable, DirectX 9x,
and a whole bunch of graphic files to get you started.

The rest of the program are various .dll files in your MICROSOFT.NET
directory that are used seamlessly. If you have a program to identify
..dll files in use you will see them in this directory when you run a
..NET app.

I have the developer and user .NET portions. You probably do not have
wizard executables in your setup. You might have update (.NET)
executables, I dunno. Otherwise, it should be neatly packed .dll files
and possibly .xml files for errors and such... maybe .config files.
 
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FreeMan

i think, therefore i don't listen to rush limbaugh.

I can't believe all of the morons out there that have not figured out that
Rush uses Suggestive Hypnosis to control his heard of sheep. His sheep
dutifully read what he wants them to, they buy what he wants them to, and
they think what he wants them to. Let's face it, the big fat pig is getting
fatter all the time of the stupidity of his flock. As you can tell, I have
absolutely no opinion on the subject, and that is because what I stated
above is truth not opinion.

FreeMan
 
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FreeMan

i think, therefore i don't listen to rush limbaugh.

I can't believe all of the morons out there that have not figured out that
Rush uses Suggestive Hypnosis to control his heard of sheep. His sheep
dutifully read what he wants them to, they buy what he wants them to, and
they think what he wants them to. Let's face it, the big fat pig is getting
fatter all the time of the stupidity of his flock. As you can tell, I have
absolutely no opinion on the subject, and that is because what I stated
above is truth not opinion.

FreeMan
 

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