Very slow Vista

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Guest

My machine:
Socket 478 Pentium 4 3.4 Ghz 1 MB cache
Ram 3 GB
ReadyBoost 4Gb
Radeon X1600 256 MB graphics card
Powersupply Antec 550W

I have changed both graphicscard and powersupply as I thought this was the
problem.

Vista Experience Index 4,4, lowest is CPU and Aero both 4,4, Desktop 5,1 and
harddisks 5,7

All drivers updated.

Should be OK?

But it's so SLOW!
Takes about 10 minutes to boot, then 5 minutes after login before you can
use it.
Then 2 minutes to start for example Controlpanel.

I have closed all unnecessary things I can think of.

I got until this weekend, if no improvement I have promised my family to
return to XP.
But I want Vista!

Please help me!

Bengt
 
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Guest

Hi Bengt.
Just to let you know all is great here, you should be too. I have almost
identicle system as you. I also have a S478 3.4Ghz. I have 2GB RAM. An Asus
motherboard (P4S800E-Deluxe), it has the SiS chipset.
I have a X700 256MB graphics card, although I borrowed my eldest sons X1600
when I first installed Vista, I see absolutely no difference, so I put my old
X700 back in.
480W Enermax power supply.

The index is same overall score of 4.4 as yours. The Processor is 4.4, RAM
is 5.4, Graphics Aero is 4.9, Gaming graphics is 4.6 and Hard disk is 5.4.

This used to be running XP with fairly remarkable speed for two years. I do
use SATA drives, I have 3 actually, one for the OS and some programs, the
other two for storage for photos and music and backups.

I should add I also have put Page File on one of the other hard drives,
seperate partition. I saw some wierd behaviour then, so I had to put some
page file back on the C: drive and that sorted it out. I still think it has a
slight edge with Page File also on a seperate hard drive.

I find it freezes or other wierd stuff with Areos transparency turned on.
With transparency turned off and Aero is still on it gives the same Flip-3D
and other Aero effects, just without transparent see through borders, but I
don't notice.

I ahve all the performance settings at default, all on, in System
Properties, Performance. Where as I had them practically all off in XP. I
think Vista runs faster than XP by a very slight margin.

Also I stopped using Norton Internet Security 2007 at the end of XP, a week
before changing over to Vista. Went with AVG, that alone speeds things up
remarkably, even boot time.

All I can say is if worse comes to worse to reinstall Vista again. See how
it goes the first day without you volunterily installing "newer" drivers if
they run with Microsofts. I have a Logitech mouse that runs brilliant on
Microsoft drivers. I installed Logitechs newest drivers and that made the
mouse erratic, jittery and all sorts of bad stuff.
What motherboard and all that do you have?

Was it always slow from the first time you installed it?

Sorry for long reply. Just a shame to see you go back to XP.

Neil.
 
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Guest

Hi Bengt,
I had one more thing to add. I tried to do the 4GB Readyboost too, with a
Memorex 4GB Flashdrive. It was working with Readyboost. I also had a 1GB
Lexar too. It also worked. But again I saw wierd behaviour and strange things
once or twice liek sudden reboot, without the Readyboost it was ok. I read
that with 2GB of RAM that you won't see any noticable speed gain with
Readyboost. In fact with and without the Flashdrive in I could not see
anything different, I can't even say it booted faster because one of the
problems with the 4GB stick left in was the computer won't boot, just gets to
a black screen and sits there. I always had to go back to BIOS where
mysteriously the boot drive was switched back to Floppy drive and the hard
drive with the OS was gone from any boot order! I got sick of fixing that, so
no more Readyboost for now.

regards,
Neil
 
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Guest

Thanks Neil for your answer!

My motherboard is almost the same as yours a ASUS P4800-E Deluxe. The
problem was there before I installed ReadyBoost. I hoped that ReadyBoost
would speed up my system.
When I tried the Vista RC2 my computer wasn't as slow as this but then I had
a problem with my old graphics card a Radeon All-in-Wonder 9700 so I went
back to XP waiting for the official release of Vista. With XP the computer
was quick enough.
I do not have any SATA-drives, ordianry IDE, but the rating is 5.7 so this
can't be the problem.
Yesterday night, I disconnected all USB-devices to check if that would help.
No improvement. I have run 3 different registry programs also without
improvement. I have uninstalled my Antivirus from CA (the free 1-year trial
for Vista) and tried to run Vista in classic mode without Aero and other
fancy stuff! Nothing!
I take your advice and try a reinstall this weekend but it looks like I have
to go back to XP!

Kind regards,

Bengt
 
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Mike Hall - MS MVP

The performance index gives an idea of how suitable your computer internals
are for running Vista.. it tells you how things should be..

if your computer is taking forever to boot up, you need to look at software
issues.. try a Vista repair first of all

http://vistasupport.mvps.org/windows_vista_repair_options.htm

Bengt said:
My machine:
Socket 478 Pentium 4 3.4 Ghz 1 MB cache
Ram 3 GB
ReadyBoost 4Gb
Radeon X1600 256 MB graphics card
Powersupply Antec 550W

I have changed both graphicscard and powersupply as I thought this was the
problem.

Vista Experience Index 4,4, lowest is CPU and Aero both 4,4, Desktop 5,1
and
harddisks 5,7

All drivers updated.

Should be OK?

But it's so SLOW!
Takes about 10 minutes to boot, then 5 minutes after login before you can
use it.
Then 2 minutes to start for example Controlpanel.

I have closed all unnecessary things I can think of.

I got until this weekend, if no improvement I have promised my family to
return to XP.
But I want Vista!

Please help me!

Bengt

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
 
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Guest

Thank you for answering!

At the moment no other software is used other than Windows and Microsoft
Office 2003.
I have read the link you provided, but;
System restore and complete PC restore, what's the use when Vista been like
this all the time?
I will try the Startup Repair option but do not feel hopeful.

Regards,

Bengt
 
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Bob

You can check to see what Vista reports as far as performance,
startup/shutdown issues:

Control Panel
System Maintenance
Performance Information and Tools
in the left pane, Advanced tools
cause of long startup/shutdown should be near the top under performance
issues.
Bob
 
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Guest

Sorry to hear your Vista is still very slow today. Sounds like you do have
the same or very much the same motherboard as mine then, you seem to have
missed a letter in the model number, mine is P4S800E-Deluxe (S for SiS
chipset). Yours could have a "P" before the 800. (Intel chips). First thing
Vista did when it was up and running was install Microsoft provided SiS
drivers.
The only things that I would be checking right now is maybe check System
Properties again and is the processor listed at proper Ghz? I have an AMD for
the kids, that system is a year old now, and it was very very slow, the
System Properties listed it as 500Mhz or something when in fact it was a 2.2
Ghz. There was actually a updater or driver for AMD at that time and that
fixed that.
Another thing is the processor being hogged? is it sticking at 100%, like
soomethings took over? I know when I have had very slow and long pauses when
the processor is suddenly very busy.
Other than that I can't think of anything else. Being we are almost the same
system and I have Vista installed and everything is set default.
I also have the 1008 BIOS from Asus. I updated that a year ago for no
reason. What BIOS version are you using? (You can find it in System
Properties). I don't know if a really old BIOS woulld cause issues now with
Vista?
These are things I am trying to think I'd be checking on mine if it was like
yours.
Are you having any freezing? Locking ups?

Regards,
Neil
 
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Guest

Hi, please can some one help me. i jus bought a brand new computer, 2gb ram,
320gb hard drive, 512mb graphics card, amd 3800 x2 64 bit processor.

I have jus installed vista...but its bein very slow.....every say 15 mins i
can do sumting then it stops then you can do sumting...please help...i dont
know wots wrong. my friend said that u need to leave ur comp on for 2 days so
that windows vista can index everytin....but its a brand new instal with
nothin on the HDD?!?

Please help....i mite have to go nd instal windows XP on it!
 

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