Utility to obtain CPU temperature

P

pg

Hello.

My PC has a MSI motherboard, with Presler (PentiumD) CPU. The PentiumD
core is superheated, and I need to find a utility that can monitor the
CPU temperature.

I have searched the net looking for such a utility, and on various
software sites I have visited, all have highly recommended the
following utilites:
RightMark CPU Clock Utility ( http://cpu.rightmark.org/products/rmclock.shtml
) and
Core Temp ( http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ )

I have downloaded both and tried them out.

Here are the results.

RightMark does run, and does correctly identity my CPU as "Presler".
But on the "CPU Temperature" row, it gives me a "N/A" result. No luck.

Core Temp, on the other hand, both the 0.96.1.0 and the 0.94.0.0
versions (I had to go to the net archive to retrieve the old version)
simply refuses to run.

0.96.1.0 gives me the following error:
This is not an Intel "Core" Architecture based processor.
This program will not continue.

0.04.0.0 gives me the following error:
This is not an Intel Core processor. This program will not
continue.

In other words, Core Temp totally bombed.

And I am _still_ looking for a utility that can report the CPU
temperature reading to me. Is there such a utility available?

Please help !

Many thanks in advance !
 
C

catchme

pg said:
Hello.

My PC has a MSI motherboard, with Presler (PentiumD) CPU. The PentiumD
core is superheated, and I need to find a utility that can monitor the
CPU temperature.

I have searched the net looking for such a utility, and on various
software sites I have visited, all have highly recommended the
following utilites:
RightMark CPU Clock Utility ( http://cpu.rightmark.org/products/rmclock.shtml
) and
Core Temp ( http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ )

I have downloaded both and tried them out.

Here are the results.

RightMark does run, and does correctly identity my CPU as "Presler".
But on the "CPU Temperature" row, it gives me a "N/A" result. No luck.

Core Temp, on the other hand, both the 0.96.1.0 and the 0.94.0.0
versions (I had to go to the net archive to retrieve the old version)
simply refuses to run.

0.96.1.0 gives me the following error:
This is not an Intel "Core" Architecture based processor.
This program will not continue.

0.04.0.0 gives me the following error:
This is not an Intel Core processor. This program will not
continue.

In other words, Core Temp totally bombed.

And I am _still_ looking for a utility that can report the CPU
temperature reading to me. Is there such a utility available?

Please help !

Many thanks in advance !
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guarantee, the Pentium class processors are KNOWN to overheat- if you
suspect its a problem, then it is!
upgrade your cpu fan, and look at cooling systems.
avoid overclocking,....and consider swapping your chip...i recommend a
motherboard that supports AMD.
 
J

JohnMattMel

My PC has a MSI motherboard, with Presler (PentiumD) CPU. The PentiumD
core is superheated, and I need to find a utility that can monitor the
CPU temperature.
Click to expand...

Could be overheating.
Take a cover off & clean out the dust, put an external fan on & see if
it behaves with the extra cooling. Make sure all the fans ( including
the power supply ) are spinning fast, with the power off, give them a
spin with a matchstick to make sure they not stuck.
Information about cleaning computer components
http://www.computerhope.com/cleaning.htm
http://www.wiscocomputing.com/articles/maintenance.htm
http://www.librarysupportstaff.com/4compcare.html
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial118.html
Getting The Grunge Out Of Your PC, Fred Langa cleans the dirtiest PC
he can find, and along the way shows you how you can easily tackle
yours.
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=60403472
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Quiet noisy computer fans with a drop of oil
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6255-5034842.html?tag=tt

===================================

Maximum CPU temperatures
http://www.tongfamily.com/guide_to_pcs/001386.html
http://www20.tomshardware.com/cpu/20010917/
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/2hotornot.htm
AMD
http://www.cpuscorecard.com/cpuprices/head_amd.htm
Intel
http://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/CS-007999.htm

=================================

Motherboard/CPU temperature
http://www.coolmon.org/
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
 
P

pg

Could be overheating.
Take a cover off & clean out the dust, put an external fan on & see if
it behaves with the extra cooling. Make sure all the fans ( including
the power supply ) are spinning fast, with the power off, give them a
spin with a matchstick to make sure they not stuck.
Information about cleaning computer componentshttp://www.computerhope.com/cleaning.htmht...eepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial118.html
Getting The Grunge Out Of Your PC, Fred Langa cleans the dirtiest PC
he can find, and along the way shows you how you can easily tackle
yours.http://www.informationweek.com/stor...ek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...
Quiet noisy computer fans with a drop of oilhttp://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6255-5034842.html?tag=tt

===================================

Maximum CPU temperatureshttp://www.tongfamily.com/guide_to_pcs/001...7/http://www.heatsink-guide.com/2hotornot.htm
AMDhttp://www.cpuscorecard.com/cpuprices/head_amd.htm
Intelhttp://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/CS-007999.htm

=================================

Motherboard/CPU temperaturehttp://www.coolmon.org/http://mbm.livewiredev.com/http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
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Many thanks for the links !!

Thanks again !
 
S

Strobe

Hello.

My PC has a MSI motherboard, with Presler (PentiumD) CPU. The PentiumD
core is superheated, and I need to find a utility that can monitor the
CPU temperature.
Click to expand...

Have you looked on the MSI website?
They offer a free utility called PC Alert, which reports temperatures and fan
speeds.

You might also try Speedfan.
 
P

Paul

pg said:
Thanks ! I'll try that out !

Thanks again !!
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There are two kinds of interfaces on processors, for measuring
temperature.

The old way, uses an analog measurement method. There is a diode
on the processor silicon die. A hardware interface in the SuperI/O
chip on the motherboard, measures the voltage developed across
the diode, and that reading is converted to a temperature. A
program you can use, to read out that kind of info, is Speedfan.
It has the ability to work with a number of different chips. The
download is the link here.

http://www.almico.com/speedfan433.exe

On the newer Intel processors, there is an additional
method. There is a digital interface on the processor.
It provides a numeric readout of the temperature. The
interface is some kind of serial bus (PECI). The readout
is actually a "delta" temperature, and is measured with
respect to the defined overheat point for the processor.
To accurately read out a temperature from that
digital interface, requires a proper value for the
max temperature (the overheat point), as the PECI value
must be subtracted from the allowed max temperature value.
Coretemp is a program that can do that, and there is an Intel
program (TAT?) available to system integrators (which is
floating around and can also be found for download).

Since the Pentium D doesn't have PECI, as far as I know,
then your best choice would be to try Speedfan. Some
motherboard manufacturers provide their own utilities,
that also read out temperature.

In addition, the motherboard readout can also
be viewed in the BIOS. So, at least, you can use
the values there, as a sanity check of your Windows
based programs. If the BIOS doesn't have a goofy value,
like 255C for the sensor, then you know it can work right.
Then, it is just a matter of finding a Windows program
that has been tested with the motherboard. (The processor
power level, while sitting in Windows, is not the same
as the power level sitting in the BIOS. So the temperature
shown in the BIOS will not match the value seen in
Windows. So the BIOS check, is purely for "sanity" -
don't expect an exact match :) )

Temperatures are notoriously difficult to measure
correctly in a computer. A consistency check, is to
touch the CPU heatsink with a finger, to see if the
value being read out in software, bears any resemblance
to reality. If the heatsink is properly fastened,
and seems to be pretty cool to the touch, then if the
CPU temp read a really high value, you might have some
doubt that the value was correct. (Note - Using your
finger is not really a good method, but my point here,
is to use common sense when using one of those
Windows programs. If the numbers don't seem to be
consistent with what you can observe yourself, then
chances are the program is wrong.)

HTH,
Paul
 
D

dadiOH

S

sandy58

Could be overheating.
Take a cover off & clean out the dust, put an external fan on & see if
it behaves with the extra cooling. Make sure all the fans ( including
the power supply ) are spinning fast, with the power off, give them a
spin with a matchstick to make sure they not stuck.
Information about cleaning computer componentshttp://www.computerhope.com/cleaning.htmht...eepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial118.html
Getting The Grunge Out Of Your PC, Fred Langa cleans the dirtiest PC
he can find, and along the way shows you how you can easily tackle
yours.http://www.informationweek.com/stor...ek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6040...
Quiet noisy computer fans with a drop of oilhttp://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6255-5034842.html?tag=tt

===================================

Maximum CPU temperatureshttp://www.tongfamily.com/guide_to_pcs/001...7/http://www.heatsink-guide.com/2hotornot.htm
AMDhttp://www.cpuscorecard.com/cpuprices/head_amd.htm
Intelhttp://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/CS-007999.htm

=================================

Motherboard/CPU temperaturehttp://www.coolmon.org/http://mbm.livewiredev.com/http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
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Thanks, JohnMatt, for very handy links. :)
 
W

wasbit

MSI provide such a utility on the driver cd - can't remember what it's
called.

Also, MSI provide an online bios/driver update utility which is excellent -
also found on the driver cd but can also be downloaded from MSI.

Speedfan is great if it works for you but can be a pain getting to know what
each sensor refers to.

Temperature Monitoring Freeware

Core Temp - http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/
- http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
Coretemeter(beta) (Amd64 only) - http://cbid.amdclub.ru/html/download.html
Dtemp - http://private.peterlink.ru/tochinov/
Intel Tat - http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/392
Motherboard monitor - http://mbm.livewiredev.com/
- http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=311
NextSensor - http://winfuture.de/news,26608.html
- http://www.majorgeeks.com/NextSensor_d4988.html
SpeedFan - http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

--------------------
Programmes that include temp. monitoring

AIDA32 - http://www.sofotex.com/AIDA32-download_L9326.html
ATITool - http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/
Everest - http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/page2.html
- http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=everesthome
- was Aida32, changed to Everest, up to V2.2.0 free
Fresh Diagnose - http://www.freshdevices.com/cpu_test.html
Gkrellm - http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html
PC Wizzard - http://www.cpuid.org/pcwizard
Samurize - http://www.samurize.com/modules/news/
SIV - http://siv.mysite.orange.co.uk/index.html
 
C

catchme

Lew said:
...i recommend a


LOL .. Right now Intel blows AMD out of the water.
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intel always beats amd from pure clock speed, but amd are far more stable.
many mac die hards are left wondering why apple chose intel, despite
rumours that intel has more resources to deliver processors on time, and
a larger r&d budget- also something to do with lower voltages...but amd
is still the acknowledged superior (though costlier) processor.
 
K

kony

Depends on the scenario, AMD is still competitive in the
$100 and lower price tiers unless you're looking to
overclock. Combine that with the lower average price of an
AM2 motherboard and AMD is the more attractive platform
processor for a low-end system.

intel always beats amd from pure clock speed, but amd are far more stable.
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? Apples and oranges and both have quite stable solutions.

many mac die hards are left wondering why apple chose intel, despite
rumours that intel has more resources to deliver processors on time, and
a larger r&d budget- also something to do with lower voltages...but amd
is still the acknowledged superior (though costlier) processor.
Click to expand...

Currently Intel has a lead in the upper end, before that AMD
did, then Intel. Lather, rinse, repeat.
 
L

Larc

There are two kinds of interfaces on processors, for measuring
temperature.

The old way, uses an analog measurement method. There is a diode
on the processor silicon die. A hardware interface in the SuperI/O
chip on the motherboard, measures the voltage developed across
the diode, and that reading is converted to a temperature. A
program you can use, to read out that kind of info, is Speedfan.
It has the ability to work with a number of different chips. The
download is the link here.

http://www.almico.com/speedfan433.exe
Click to expand...

Does anybody know of any temp program that's better than Speedfan and
displays continuous readings in the system tray the way Speedfan does?

I've used Speedfan for several years now and like its versatility and
convenience, but am starting to doubt it with recent charges of
inaccuracy.

Larc



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Owner

catchme said:
intel always beats amd from pure clock speed,

but amd are far more stable.
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For overclocking maybe, but not as a stock processor right out of the box.
 
K

kony

For overclocking maybe, but not as a stock processor right out of the box.
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If both are only conservatively overclocked - given enough
but not too much voltage, kept cool enough, and tested for
stability, then they're both stable overclocked. However,
it should be noted that the typical Intel chip has more
overclocking headroom than AMD's alternative does at this
point in time. For example in the lower end E2xxx or E4xxx
series you can come near or even exceed 200% of the stock
clockspeed without exceptional efforts, just having a decent
aftermarket heatsink.
 

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