Using a Dell COA on non Dell PC possible?

[Chris]

I am looking for the least expensive option to install Windows XP on 4
computers. Acortech.com has this available:

http://www.acortech.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/3758/4690908

It is listed as "Windows XP Home COA with Dell CD & Manual OEM" I wonder if
I could use this COA with a CD that has the full version of Windows XP? The
site only says that the warranty is for Distribution with a new DELL PC, but
the description says "Package included: Microsoft Windows XP Home COA for
any of Generic OEM CD, Dell Recovery CD, Manual and COA" which leads me to
believe that it would work.

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Why does it say this...

Warranty: Distribution with a new DELL PC

and

**** For distribution with a new DELL PC Only ****

http://www.acortech.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/3758/4690908

I wouldn't touch it.

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[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Hi,

Forward that to my friend Paul Iracy, you can use his email at
(e-mail address removed)

A Dell CD is for use only on a Dell PC - no other. A generic COA should be
provided only with a generic OEM CD. To do so otherwise is likely not in
accordance with seller's license agreement.

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[Martijn Saly]

A Dell CD is for use only on a Dell PC - no other. A generic COA should be
provided only with a generic OEM CD. To do so otherwise is likely not in
accordance with seller's license agreement.

Wait a minute... In my country, a license agreement is not legitimate if you
get to see it *after* buying the product it applies on. I don't remember
Dell letting me take a look at their Windows OEM license agreement on their
website before entering my credit card number.

So, normal coopyright laws should apply. It's just a piece of software that
can be used by 1 (one) person. That mean he should be allowed to install it
on 4, or 7, or 129 PC's, so long as he's the only user.

 

[Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE]

Wait a minute... In my country, a license agreement is not legitimate
if you get to see it *after* buying the product it applies on. I
don't remember Dell letting me take a look at their Windows OEM
license agreement on their website before entering my credit card
number.

So, normal coopyright laws should apply. It's just a piece of
software that can be used by 1 (one) person. That mean he should be
allowed to install it on 4, or 7, or 129 PC's, so long as he's the
only user.

1. You don't buy Windows, you lease it.
2. You can always return (legitimate) copies and get your money back.

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[Richard Urban]

Buy it. You can afford four computers, can't you. Now buy four operating
systems. I have purchased a copy of Windows XP for every computer I own
(three). You can do the same.

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[kurttrail]

1. You don't buy Windows, you lease it.

LOL! I own my copy. A lease would have to be known about and agree to
at the time of sale.

2. You can always return (legitimate) copies and get your money back.

Why? MS has yet to exercise its due diligence responsibilities and
enforced this BS on private non-commercial individuals in a court of
law. The EULA may well be a valid commerial use license, but it has yet
to be proven that it is a valid private non-commercial use license, and
until it is proven in law or legal precedent, it is just a bunch of hot
air. Where's the beef? There ain't none!

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[Bruce Chambers]

I am looking for the least expensive option to install Windows XP on 4
computers. Acortech.com has this available:

http://www.acortech.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/3758/4690908

It is listed as "Windows XP Home COA with Dell CD & Manual OEM" I wonder if
I could use this COA with a CD that has the full version of Windows XP? The
site only says that the warranty is for Distribution with a new DELL PC, but
the description says "Package included: Microsoft Windows XP Home COA for
any of Generic OEM CD, Dell Recovery CD, Manual and COA" which leads me to
believe that it would work.

See, this is the reason that Microsoft recently changed their
activation policies for OEM licenses, greatly inconveniencing their
honest customers: too many stolen copies being resold on the "grey"
market. If you can afford 4 computers, you can afford legitimate
software licenses for them.


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[Uncle Joe]

First, one "leases" the Win XP license for ONE computer for as long as
one retains control of that PC. I purchased a Win XP Home OEM CD
from my third-party parts dealer when I built my system. From what
I've read in this forum, I'm not supposed to be able to install my OEM
XP Home OS software on another system that I may build in the future...
that it won't activate properly. I find that hard to believe but we'll see.

Secondly, the Dell OEM operating system license is tied to the Dell
motherboard shipped from the factory in a single PC. The Dell-supplied
OS shouldn't activate properly on systems with different motherboards,
including on home-built units having third-party motherboards.

Thirdly, one cannot install a OS license on multiple PCs--except in
specified situations (volume licenses come to mind.)

Fourthly, we're not in your country so American law applies. I agree
that it's unfair to compel buyers to abide by licenses that the buyers
cannot see until they open software products--thereby rendering the
packages unreturnable for refunds. But that's the American way. Big
corporations own the Congress and the court system.

 

[Alias]

First, one "leases" the Win XP license for ONE computer for as long as
one retains control of that PC. I purchased a Win XP Home OEM CD
from my third-party parts dealer when I built my system. From what
I've read in this forum, I'm not supposed to be able to install my OEM
XP Home OS software on another system that I may build in the future...
that it won't activate properly. I find that hard to believe but we'll see.

If it's been over 120 days since you last changed hardware on the first
system, a generic OEM will activate fine on the second.

Alias

Secondly, the Dell OEM operating system license is tied to the Dell
motherboard shipped from the factory in a single PC. The Dell-supplied
OS shouldn't activate properly on systems with different motherboards,
including on home-built units having third-party motherboards.

Thirdly, one cannot install a OS license on multiple PCs--except in
specified situations (volume licenses come to mind.)

Fourthly, we're not in your country so American law applies. I agree
that it's unfair to compel buyers to abide by licenses that the buyers
cannot see until they open software products--thereby rendering the
packages unreturnable for refunds. But that's the American way. Big
corporations own the Congress and the court system.

 

[Alias]

See, this is the reason that Microsoft recently changed their
activation policies for OEM licenses, greatly inconveniencing their
honest customers: too many stolen copies being resold on the "grey"
market. If you can afford 4 computers, you can afford legitimate
software licenses for them.

You're assuming that the general public agrees that one should fatten up
MS more than it already is and abide by their rules, rules that are not
law and are not generally known by the general public. One licence per
person makes sense. One licence per computer does not. If Bill Gates is
the richest person in the world, he can afford to let people have
mulitple installations of the same licence on all their home computers
more than a family of four can afford four licences.

The proof of this is that Gates & Co. got rich off of Office and Win
9x/NT/W2K which were pirated extensively. Now, Gates & Co. is just
getting greedy and their anti piracy programs only affects the honest,
paying public while the crackers just laugh.

Alias

 

[Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE]

If it's been over 120 days since you last changed hardware on the
first system, a generic OEM will activate fine on the second.

Alias

No, the Dell OEM version probably will refuse to install on a different Bios
maker or version.

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[ANONYMOUS]

2. You can always return (legitimate) copies and get your money back.

No you can't once the package is opened. Software packages are never
returnable because of piracy issues involved. Otherwise, people can
always copy the CDs and return the package for being unfit for their
intended purpose.

My response is based on UK law and practice. I can't speak for global
market.

 

[ANONYMOUS]

See, this is the reason that Microsoft recently changed their
activation policies for OEM licenses, greatly inconveniencing their
honest customers: too many stolen copies being resold on the "grey"
market. If you can afford 4 computers, you can afford legitimate
software licenses for them.

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Sometimes software costs more than the PC. For example look here:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...6605/sr=2-3/ref=sr_2_11_3/202-2318234-1549410

Although, all new computers from top brand names should come with its
own OEM version of OS.

I would prefer to have peace!!

 

[kurttrail]

No, the Dell OEM version probably will refuse to install on a
different Bios maker or version.

Probably? If you don't know from personal experience, then what are you
basing "probably" on?

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[Alias]

No, the Dell OEM version probably will refuse to install on a different
Bios maker or version.

This is true and had I been talking about a Dell OEM version, you would
be correct. However, if you reread the Joe's and my posts, we said
*generic* OEM.

Alias

 

[Charlie Tame]

Probably? If you don't know from personal experience, then what are you
basing "probably" on?

The same reasoning that compels you to insist that my observations about
NVIDIA drivers must be wrong, despite the fact that my personal experience
(which is what I said in the first place) indicates otherwise? Seems that if
anyone's personal experience contradicts your "Vast knowledge" that person
is automatically an "Idiot".

You are an obnoxious little troll, nothing more.

 

[Guest]

Forget the illegal Dell license offer. It would be best to
purchase generic Microsoft OEM versions of XP.

Example:

Microsoft Windows XP HOME Edition With Service Pack 2 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102151

 

[MAP]

Wait a minute... In my country, a license agreement is not legitimate
if you get to see it *after* buying the product it applies on. I
don't remember Dell letting me take a look at their Windows OEM
license agreement on their website before entering my credit card
number.

So, normal coopyright laws should apply. It's just a piece of
software that can be used by 1 (one) person. That mean he should be
allowed to install it on 4, or 7, or 129 PC's, so long as he's the
only user.

I wish that the people in America would wake up and adopt laws such as this
one, or the labor laws of say....God help me for saying this....France.

"We the people" and the word "individual" have been replaced by "We the
corporation" and "Company".
I am "almost" embarassed when I think that I spent 4 years of my life in
some of the most Godawful places while serving in the U.S. Military just to
ensure a high profit margin for something like Walmart.

 

[Wesley Vogel]

You can read the eulas before buying.

Retail Software License Terms
http://www.microsoft.com/legal/useterms/default.aspx

[[A copy of the Microsoft® OEM System Builder License, that became available
for distribution on the Microsoft OEM System Builder Packs in August 2005,
is available for download in a total of 43 languages.]]
System Builder Licensing
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx

Volume Licensing Home Page
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/default.mspx

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