User: ASP.NET Machine Account???

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Guest

Looking through my user accounts on Vista Ultimate Final, I noticed a new
account that I had not set up, it is called "ASP.NET Machine Account". I
also see that it is password protected. Does anyone know why Vista decided
to set up an account by itself? I also have no idea what the password is,
any ideas?

T.I.A.
 
S

Synapse Syndrome

David Wright said:
Okay, just read an article by Soumitra Sengupta about this, so I know why
it
was created. Now my question is, can I safely delete it?



No. It is needed by any ASP.NET based applications that you might have
installed.

ss.
 
R

Richard Urban

I have about 4-5 applications I use that will install the dot net framework
if it is not already installed. You may not need it now, but you will. Leave
well enough alone. Some may even say to allow the O/S to maintain/monitor
itself, with little assistance from you.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
T

Tom Porterfield

Richard Urban said:
I have about 4-5 applications I use that will install the dot net framework
if it is not already installed. You may not need it now, but you will.
Leave well enough alone. Some may even say to allow the O/S to
maintain/monitor itself, with little assistance from you.


But the ASP.Net machine account would only be used if you are locally
hosting web pages that run under ASP.Net. I don't know of any applications
that do that, only developers who are writing their own.
 
T

Tom Porterfield

Synapse Syndrome said:
No. It is needed by any ASP.NET based applications that you might have
installed.


Do you know of any such type applications? The only folks I know who
need/use that account are developers who are hosting their own applications
on their PC's rather than on a server.
 
T

Tom Porterfield

David Wright said:
Okay, just read an article by Soumitra Sengupta about this, so I know why
it
was created. Now my question is, can I safely delete it?


Instead of deleting it, just in case in the future you find you want it, I
recommend you disable the account. That makes it easy to recover, by
enabling it, but doesn't allow the account to be utilized by anything.
 
R

Richard Urban

Then delete it if you feel comfortable doing so. I see no problem with it on
my computers, either Windows XP or Vista. I tend to leave things alone. My
attitude is they are there for a purpose, either current or unforeseen. If
it ain't broke why break it?

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
S

Synapse Syndrome

Tom Porterfield said:
Do you know of any such type applications? The only folks I know who
need/use that account are developers who are hosting their own
applications on their PC's rather than on a server.


I have a few web based apps that I use locally on network. I seem to have
that account on my Vista machine at the moment, but do on two XP machines
and my Windows 2003 Server.

This is one example that I run on my server that needs the account:
http://www.http-com.com/

There are other programs that you can run on your LAN for file sharing and
video streaming that need it.

ss.
 
S

Synapse Syndrome

Tom Porterfield said:
But the ASP.Net machine account would only be used if you are locally
hosting web pages that run under ASP.Net. I don't know of any
applications that do that, only developers who are writing their own.


But it is there even when IIS is not running, or even installed. There must
be some function for it being there.

ss.
 
F

fj

Synapse Syndrome said:
But it is there even when IIS is not running, or even installed. There
must be some function for it being there.

ss.

My experience is that the account is added when .net is installed. In XP, I
deleted it years ago/everytime I build a new PC and install .net. Never,
never an issue.

I think that simply means that the account can be created but for no
specific function.
 
T

Tom Porterfield

Richard said:
Then delete it if you feel comfortable doing so. I see no problem with it
on my computers, either Windows XP or Vista. I tend to leave things
alone. My attitude is they are there for a purpose, either current or
unforeseen. If it ain't broke why break it?

I can't delete it on my machine as I do develop ASP.NET applications on my
machine. But the users of my apps do not need the account on their machines
since they run my applications from a web server.

You are correct, it is there for a purpose, but unless you are developing or
hosting ASP.NET web applications on your machine then you don't need that
account. That is its purpose, to be the account that these ASP.NET web
applications run under. My attitude I guess is different from yours. I
prefer to understand what the purpose of something is and then make an
informed decision about what to do with it.
 
T

Tom Porterfield

Synapse said:
But it is there even when IIS is not running, or even installed. There
must be some function for it being there.

That's because when the .NET framework is installed it creates the account
whether it needs to or not.
 
S

Synapse Syndrome

Tom Porterfield said:
Do you know of any such type applications? The only folks I know who
need/use that account are developers who are hosting their own
applications on their PC's rather than on a server.


Here's a .NET app that might need it. I knew of this app before, but I
don't use it myself.

http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html

ss.
 
G

Guest

I have the same problem, but cannot delete the .NET framework account or
delete the program, because my Vista system asks me for the ASP.NET Machine
Account password, which I have never set. The passwords I use on my PC are
not working. At this moment, i cannot install programs or delete things. I
cannot get thge account off because then it asks for the same account.
.NET framework was installed after a windows update in XP and after
updating to Vista, it was updated to .NET framework update 3
I tried to install Vista again, but you gen guess, it asks for the same
password again. I even tried to install good old XP, but thats not working
because the start-up disks are not working anymore. Who can help?
 
M

Malke

serfreedshaft said:
Didn't work for me.. I'm using Vista Home Premium. :(

There's no way we can know what didn't work for you, what the original
problem was, or can offer you any more help because you are not posting on
a real forum as you think you are and you didn't quote any of the thread to
which you are replying. You are using a web interface that leeches Usenet
posts and most of the rest of us are using real newsreaders. We don't see
what you do. If you want to participate in Usenet, the better way is to set
up a newsreader. This is very easy to do and I'll give you information
about that below. If you prefer to use a forum, then here are two excellent
ones:

http://forum.aumha.org/index.php
http://http://computerhaven.info/

Since you are using a web interface, you may not realize that this is really
a newsgroup. You will get far more out of this resource if you learn to use
a newsreader. There are many good newsreaders for Windows, but you can use
Outlook Express (XP) or Windows Mail (Vista) since you already have it.
Here are some links to information about newsgroups:

About Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/ - Usenet FAQs from the Internet FAQ Archives
http://www.usenetmonster.com/infocenter/
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet - a brief explanation
of newsgroups

Outlook Express/Windows Mail as Newsreader:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
http://rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/accessing_newsgrousp_with-windows_mail.htm

How to Post:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 - How to Ask a Question
http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.htm - How Not to Get Technical Help on
Usenet


http://aumha.org/nntp.htm - list of MS newsgroups
microsoft.public.test.here - MS group to test if your newsreader is working
properly
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/munad.htm - how to munge email address
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting - crossposting
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm - multiposting

Other Newsreaders for Windows:
http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php - Forte
http://www.mozilla.org - Thunderbird

Malke
 
G

GTS

Exactly how did you encrypt the Word files? (XP Home does not support efs
encryption.) Did you use a 3rd party program, or do you mean you set a
password in Word. What version of Word?

It's doubtful that the the ASP.NET is related. This is created when the net
framework is installed and you should leave it alone.
 
V

Vista Succubus Hunter

papuly2k said:
i went into safe mode and added administrator and yet hv not been able
to access the files when i log back as admin.

Well, that admin account that you're using is not the admin account that
has full rights. There is only one admin account that has full rights on
Vista, and it's the hidden admin account, which the one you're using
doesn't inherit full rights from the hidden account. The hidden admin
account on Vista is the same admin account on XP that has full admin
rights, but no other admin account on Vista can inherit rights from the
hidden account, upon account creation, like it does on XP.

i think i maybe missing
out on something... this is indeed a weird problem... and GTS i use xp
pro not home... and the security tab does not come when i right click
the file - only general properties appear, and then i can get into
advanced properties... tried to decrypt as you can see in the pic
previously but not getting access... :(

The simple fact is that there is another user account on the folder or
file that doesn't have full rights, and it's superseding your admin user
account that is not a full-rights admin account.

To circumvent the problem easily, one can put the Everyone group account
on the file or folder with full rights and gain access, using a non-full
rights admin account. Or one finds the user-account on the file or
folder that is superseding the non-full rights admin account and make it
match the rights of the admin account.
 

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