USB cables and inket printer

H

History Fan

I recently bought the HP 5440 inkjet printer for a relative. It does
not come with a USB cable. Actually, I already have one, with silver
connectors.

The USB cables I see at retail stores have gold connectors. Will using
the one I have result in diminished performance with this printer? I
certainly don't want to spend an extra $30 if I don't have to.
 
T

thefudgepacker

I recently bought the HP 5440 inkjet printer for a relative. It does
not come with a USB cable. Actually, I already have one, with silver
connectors.

The USB cables I see at retail stores have gold connectors. Will using
the one I have result in diminished performance with this printer? I
certainly don't want to spend an extra $30 if I don't have to.


From what I have read the gold cables are a total waste of money. If
you like the eye candy go for the gold. If you want what is practical
go for the silver.
 
J

JustMe

History Fan said:
I recently bought the HP 5440 inkjet printer for a relative. It does
not come with a USB cable. Actually, I already have one, with silver
connectors.

The USB cables I see at retail stores have gold connectors. Will
using the one I have result in diminished performance with this printer?
I certainly don't want to spend an extra $30 if I don't have to.

Silver or gold, it don't matter. Save your $30 and hook it up, it'll be
fine.
 
A

ato_zee

It's the copper wires inside that carry the signal, not fancy plating
put on to to trick you into paying more.

Only time gold is better is in certain climatic conditions
(to prevent corrosion), some audio/video connectors that are
frequently connected and disconnected (studio and outside
broadcast type of applications), some HF and computer
applications. I remember memory and motherboard memory
connectiors were gold plated, then they stopped using
gold on many of the motherboard connectors, negating
any benefit from gold fingers on the memory modules

So use what you have got.
 
H

History Fan

History Fan said:
I recently bought the HP 5440 inkjet printer for a relative. It does
not come with a USB cable. Actually, I already have one, with silver
connectors.

The USB cables I see at retail stores have gold connectors. Will
using the one I have result in diminished performance with this printer?
I certainly don't want to spend an extra $30 if I don't have to.


I just set up the printer using the USB cable with the silver
connectors. Afterwards I printed out a text and photo page. Everything
looks just fine.
 
E

Edwin Pawlowski

History Fan said:
The USB cables I see at retail stores have gold connectors. Will
using the one I have result in diminished performance with this printer?
I certainly don't want to spend an extra $30 if I don't have to.

It is people like you that are destroying our economy. If it was not worth
the extra money, they would not be making these things. Do you think they
just want a profit? Of course not, you know how good gold is. Be sure it
is also oxygen free wire also.
 
I

Impmon

The USB cables I see at retail stores have gold connectors. Will using
the one I have result in diminished performance with this printer? I
certainly don't want to spend an extra $30 if I don't have to.

Those "gold" connector are probably painted on and its packaging with
extra fancy name to make it sound like its worth $30. At most they
probably cost $3 to make in china and ship to USA.

As long as you observe the cable length restriction, any cables you
got will work fine.
 
G

George E. Cawthon

History said:
I recently bought the HP 5440 inkjet printer for a relative. It does
not come with a USB cable. Actually, I already have one, with silver
connectors.

The USB cables I see at retail stores have gold connectors. Will using
the one I have result in diminished performance with this printer? I
certainly don't want to spend an extra $30 if I don't have to.
Even many $2 ones have gold contacts, just the
outside is silver colored. Gold contacts are not
big deal. How many plug ins/unplugs to you
expect, 2000 or more?
 
A

Arthur Entlich

Ever wonder why cables, which used to be part of the peripheral purchase
disappeared in most cases, especially in things like printers?

It's really pretty simple. Although it saves the printer manufacturers
something under a buck, and that probably adds up, and it relieves them
of responsibility to warrant the cable, which I suppose has some small
advantage, in the end, it doesn't make a lot of sense for the peripheral
manufacturers to do it, because it annoys clients, and may even
encourage people to use potentially old or damaged cables to save money,
which may lead to more calls and false warranty returns, etc.

So, why have they done it? This is my theory, but it seems logical...

The retailers, as it is, make no money on selling printers, per se, and
probably true of many peripherals. The money comes from the money the
companies pay for shelf space and advertising, ink sales, extended
warranty sales, and... yep... cable sales.

In fact, it is likely the retailer makes more profit (real profit, not
just by percentage) on the sale of a cable than they do on a printer,
especially low cost printers.

While a USB cable often will sell for $10-15 at a electronics store the
retailer typically might pay $2-4 for a gold plated warranted one, and
literally under $1 for a more generic type.

So, what's my suggestion if you want to save money? Go to your
neighborhood dollar store. Here in Canada, they cost between $1.50 and
$2 for a 6' USB '2.0' unit with a 5 year warranty, so I imagine they
cost about $1 in the US. Even gold plated ones (if you feel that is
required) are about $3-4 in the dollar stores here.

Now, one caveat. Some scanners require more specialized USB cables.
Scanners can require better shielding and require iron cored toroids to
prevent either interference to other peripherals or external appliances,
or to reduce noise to maintain integrity of the data to the computer,
due to the speed it is delivered at. In these cases, a higher quality
cable may be required, but often in this case, the cable will be
included with the peripheral.

Bottom line, try a $1 cable first, if it doesn't do the job, consider
something better. Look for the cable being described as USB 2.0 high
speed... even the cheap ones often are.

The actual spec for the USB cables did not change between USB v1.1 and
v2.0, however, ones that were good enough for the relatively slow speed
USB 1.1 data transfer may not be adequate for error-free high speed USB
2.0 transfers.

Art
 
O

Otto Sykora

If it was not worth
the extra money, they would not be making these things.<

well they do it to earn money not to make it woth extra money!


The gold looking cables are just a joke in such application as USB
cable.
If was for the conductivity, it would have to be silver (silver, not
nickel) or cupper. Gold is not as good conductor.
For the purposes of corrosion protection, well this would work, are
you going to dive with it in sea watter?

For the number of insertions, also gold plating is not the best idea,
many nickel alloys used here (they look silver) are much better.
Chemical gold plating will be mostly some 3microns anyway, will be
scratched away during the first 5 insertions of the connector.

As for the speed of the data transfer, the plating of the connector
tips is rather irrelevant. Most importatnt factor here is the material
property of the insulator and its mechanical dimensions relative to
the conductor diameter. Materail of the wire itself is not important,
the plating of the wire has to be cupper if the wire is not entirely
made of it.

Most reflections , if any at expected frequencies, will occure on the
connectors on both sides of the cable, but not because of its
material, but because the connectors are of the male-female design ,
the dimension being different on the female and male connector, thus
not capable of maintaining the nominal impedance of the cable.

One of the best connectors for high frequency connections ever made
was the RCA genderless connector system, those were made of normal
steel, no fancy surfaces or metals, and those still pass very well any
laboratory tests , reflections here are very hard to be even found
with best test equipent.
 

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