upgrading system

[Bruce_NKT]

Hi

I guess this question has been asked before but it's probably buried very
deep in the Forum, so bear with me.

My PC came with an XP Pro Disc (but it wasn't installed; that had to be done
manually) that was 5 years ago and I want to completely upgrade the system.

So the question is pretty basic; will my XP work on the new system?

Bloody hope so as I'm on a budget and could do without having to shell out
on a new OS.

Best wishes

Bruce

 

[Craig Coope]

Hi

I guess this question has been asked before but it's probably buried very
deep in the Forum, so bear with me.

My PC came with an XP Pro Disc (but it wasn't installed; that had to be done
manually) that was 5 years ago and I want to completely upgrade the system.

So the question is pretty basic; will my XP work on the new system?

Bloody hope so as I'm on a budget and could do without having to shell out
on a new OS.

Best wishes

Bruce

Depending what you mean by upgrading? If you mean you are going to
build a totally new PC and install it then yes it will install but you
will have to activate XP online or over the phone. If it doesn't work
online for some reason it will work over the phone.

If you are upgrading your current PC and are changing a lot of
hardware then again XP will need re-activating as it thinks its in
another PC...


But yes you should have no trouble installing and then activating
(I've just activated my XP after about 5 years and all is fine).

 

[Bruce_NKT]

Depending what you mean by upgrading? If you mean you are going to
build a totally new PC and install it then yes it will install but you
will have to activate XP online or over the phone. If it doesn't work
online for some reason it will work over the phone.

If you are upgrading your current PC and are changing a lot of
hardware then again XP will need re-activating as it thinks its in
another PC...


But yes you should have no trouble installing and then activating
(I've just activated my XP after about 5 years and all is fine).

Hi Craig,

Thanks for the reply; I guessed I'd have to re-register but as long as
Microsoft will allow it that's good enough for me.

Cheers for your help.

 

[Bruce_NKT]

Hi Philo,

Thanks for the reply

Is there a way of querying it with Microsoft (that won't cost £46?)

I have a horrid feeling I know the answer already.

Best wishes

Bruce

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

If the disk came with the PC, it's OEM.

: Hi Philo,
:
: Thanks for the reply
:
: Is there a way of querying it with Microsoft (that won't cost £46?)
:
: I have a horrid feeling I know the answer already.
:
: Best wishes
:
: Bruce
:
: "philo" wrote:
:
: > Bruce_NKT wrote:
: > >
: > > "Craig Coope" wrote:
: > >
: > >> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 02:06:01 -0700, Bruce_NKT
: > >>
: > >>> Hi
: > >>>
: > >>> I guess this question has been asked before but it's probably buried
very
: > >>> deep in the Forum, so bear with me.
: > >>>
: > >>> My PC came with an XP Pro Disc (but it wasn't installed; that had to
be done
: > >>> manually) that was 5 years ago and I want to completely upgrade the
system.
: > >>>
: > >>> So the question is pretty basic; will my XP work on the new system?
: > >>>
: > >>> Bloody hope so as I'm on a budget and could do without having to
shell out
: > >>> on a new OS.
: > >>>
: > >>> Best wishes
: > >>>
: > >>> Bruce
: > >> Depending what you mean by upgrading? If you mean you are going to
: > >> build a totally new PC and install it then yes it will install but
you
: > >> will have to activate XP online or over the phone. If it doesn't work
: > >> online for some reason it will work over the phone.
: > >>
: > >> If you are upgrading your current PC and are changing a lot of
: > >> hardware then again XP will need re-activating as it thinks its in
: > >> another PC...
: > >>
: > >>
: > >> But yes you should have no trouble installing and then activating
: > >> (I've just activated my XP after about 5 years and all is fine).
: > >>
: > >> --
: > >> The Zero ST
: > >>
: > >
: > > Hi Craig,
: > >
: > > Thanks for the reply; I guessed I'd have to re-register but as long as
: > > Microsoft will allow it that's good enough for me.
: > >
: > > Cheers for your help.
: >
: >
: > IF the CD you have is OEM however
: > it will not work
: >

 

[DG]

IF the CD you have is OEM however
it will not work

If it's a generic OEM CD from Microsoft (not from Dell, Gateway, Acer,
HP, etc.) IT WILL WORK.

To the OP : you don't have to REGISTER the OS, you only have to ACTIVATE
it, registration and activation are not the same.

 

[Alias]

If the disk came with the PC, it's OEM.

Not necessarily. Remember, this newsgroup isn't only read in the USA. I
can go to various computer shops right now and have them build me a
computer with the OS of my choice or no OS at all. Not everyone shops at
Walmart.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Hi

I guess this question has been asked before but it's probably buried very
deep in the Forum, so bear with me.

My PC came with an XP Pro Disc (but it wasn't installed; that had to be done
manually) that was 5 years ago and I want to completely upgrade the system.

So the question is pretty basic; will my XP work on the new system?

Bloody hope so as I'm on a budget and could do without having to shell out
on a new OS.

Best wishes

Bruce

Keep something from the older computer so you can say you upgraded your
hardware, not built a "new" computer. I would suggest a screw. Then, if
you have a generic OEM copy of Windows, you would be within the EULA
guidelines.

Alias

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Hi

I guess this question has been asked before but it's probably buried very
deep in the Forum, so bear with me.

My PC came with an XP Pro Disc (but it wasn't installed; that had to be done
manually)

The fact that it was installed manually is completely irrelevant to
your question.

that was 5 years ago and I want to completely upgrade the system.

So the question is pretty basic; will my XP work on the new system?

Bloody hope so as I'm on a budget and could do without having to shell out
on a new OS.

Three important questions for you:

1. Is the XP CD a retail copy or an OEM one? If it's retail, there are
no issues at all. If it's OEM, read on.

2. If it's OEM, is it a generic OEM CD or a specific one for your make
of computer (such as Dell)? If it's specific, almost certainly it will
not work after you do the hardware upgrade.

3. Exactly what do you mean by "completely upgrade the system"? OEM
licenses are permanently tied to the first computer they are installed
and they can never legally be moved to another. You are asking about
what you call "the new system." You can make a lot of changes, but if
you change so much that it's truly a new system, you may not use your
OEM version on it.

 

[Craig Coope]

If the disk came with the PC, it's OEM.

I'm from the UK and 3 of my PCs have come with Windows CDs and none
are OEM.

 

[Craig Coope]

2. If it's OEM, is it a generic OEM CD or a specific one for your make
of computer (such as Dell)? If it's specific, almost certainly it will
not work after you do the hardware upgrade.

I've always wondered about this. I've never had a manufacturer
specific Windows CD. I wouldn't ever touch them. How do these disks
work? I thought they installed a normal Windows and just had all the
drivers and such on the one disk. Or does it "Dell-ify" the Windows
installation?

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

I've always wondered about this. I've never had a manufacturer
specific Windows CD. I wouldn't ever touch them. How do these disks
work? I thought they installed a normal Windows and just had all the
drivers and such on the one disk. Or does it "Dell-ify" the Windows
installation?

In many circumstances, the CD is BIOS-locked to the particular model
of computer from that particular company. If so, it won't install on
another.

 

[Tim Meddick]

OEM Disks will install on other machines, they are written with enough
diagnostics to tell if they are being installed on the OEM's machine or
another foreign to it. In this case it WILL load XP but as a 30 day trial
ONLY and won't try to install any drivers but MAY install help documentation
for the OEM (such as there's a Dell Help Centre icon on the desktop of my
Virtual XP Home installation that I use to try out software on). After the
30 days are up, it will kick you out and ask for the "activation code"
(different from the product key) and won't let you log back in till you give
it. If used on the Original Equipment Manufacturer's machine it WILL NOT
ask for this activation code.

 

[Smirnoff]

OEM Disks will install on other machines, they are written with enough
diagnostics to tell if they are being installed on the OEM's machine
or another foreign to it. In this case it WILL load XP but as a 30
day trial ONLY and won't try to install any drivers but MAY install
help documentation for the OEM (such as there's a Dell Help Centre
icon on the desktop of my Virtual XP Home installation that I use to
try out software on). After the 30 days are up, it will kick you out
and ask for the "activation code" (different from the product key) and
won't let you log back in till you give it. If used on the Original
Equipment Manufacturer's machine it WILL NOT ask for this activation
code.

I'm from the same neck of the woods. Although I've never seen Del Boy,
strange that.

 

[Tim Meddick]

He's fictional, as is the Nags Head now.

 

[Smirnoff]

Yes, my comment was tongue-in-cheek. Didn't the Nag's Head used to be
the Heaton Arms? It's probably the Slug & Natterjack Toad now.

 

[Smirnoff]

No, just remembered it was The Morning Star.

Yes, my comment was tongue-in-cheek. Didn't the Nag's Head used to be
the Heaton Arms? It's probably the Slug & Natterjack Toad now.

 

[Tim Meddick]

Wot, the pub nearly opposite to Nettos? I thought it was always the Nags
Head, although closed now and gutted. The Heaton Arms sounds damn
familiar - where's that then?
I suppose it's just us up because it's getting on for about
five-in-the-morning in the US where most of these 'posters' come from?

 

[Smirnoff]

The one around the corner from Barclays Bank, which I think was renamed
the Nag's Head (and complete with Robin Reliant), used to be called The
Morning Star. The Heaton Arms on the next corner was renamed The Duchess
Of Peckham and The "something" & Bishop at one time and is/was at the
bottom of Heaton Road, next to what was the old Co-op.

 

[Smirnoff]

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1754700

The one around the corner from Barclays Bank, which I think was
renamed the Nag's Head (and complete with Robin Reliant), used to be
called The Morning Star. The Heaton Arms on the next corner was
renamed The Duchess Of Peckham and The "something" & Bishop at one
time and is/was at the bottom of Heaton Road, next to what was the old
Co-op.