Upgrade to Windows 7 or not?

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Monday, June 22, 2009 12:56:17 PM, and on a whim,
Erik Jan pounded out on the keyboard:

Terry R. had de volgende lumineuze gedachte op 22-06-09 19:07:


Why must we live with it, that we can only buy a computer with an OS
that we do not want? Why do we accept this loss of freedom? Buying a
computer and buying an OS ought to be two separate purchases one
independent of the other, with a choice in hardware and a choice in
software. There are other OS's than MS windows alone; there are several
variants of Linux for instance.

I believe it is monstrous that the current situation is so tamely
accepted: "users will have to live with it." The current situation is an
abuse.

Erik Jan

I don't live with it, but the majority of those who buy a new computer
do. I have yet to see the average Joe buy a computer without an OS.
For those that have the knowledge, they can make different choices.

I now have 6 OS's on this workstation. I hardly use most of the others
any longer, but they're there (Win98 DOS/Me/W2k/XP/Linux/Win7). My choice.



Terry R.

 

[Erik Jan]

Tom Willett had de volgende lumineuze gedachte op 22-06-09 22:10:

You *do* have a choice.
1) Buy a computer with no O/S and add your own.
2) Build your own comupter with the O/S of your choice.
3) Don't use a computer.

Dear Tom, the fact is: I cannot buy a laptop without an OS here in
Holland. I am not ready to buy one and start trying to return the
Windows licence. From what I have read on the internet I conclude that
it will be too difficult to even try it. I did buy a desktop without an
OS; this is simple because I happen to know a hardware man who can build
one according to my wishes. All netbooks with Linux on it have
disappeared from the shelves in the stores. I consider myself lucky I
could buy one via the internet. The fact alone that one cannot enter a
shop and choose one from the many options that exist, is testimony to
the abnormal situation the computer business has to cope with.

Greetings,

Erik Jan.

 

[Bill Sharpe]

Personally I have had no problems with Windows Vista and will likely not
upgrade most of my computers for some time to come.

I have had no problems with either XP on my desktop or Vista on my
laptop(once I dumped user account controls). I see no immediate need to
upgrade to Windows 7 on either platform. Windows 7 isn't even officially
released yet.

Bill

 

[webster72n]

I have read that Windows 7's performance is slightly better than Windows
Vista. Soo I am wondering is it any reason to upgrade to Win7 except for
the eyecandy?

Any thoughts, recommendations?

 

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Tue Jun 23 2009 12:54:10 GMT-0700 (Pacific
Daylight Time), and on a whim, Bill Sharpe pounded out on the keyboard:

I have had no problems with either XP on my desktop or Vista on my
laptop(once I dumped user account controls). I see no immediate need to
upgrade to Windows 7 on either platform. Windows 7 isn't even officially
released yet.

Bill

What tasks do you perform on your laptop, and what hardware do you use?
Those questions make all the difference in the world with whether
Vista "works" or not.

I have a partition of Win7 on this workstation. It runs fine. Browser
and email work fine. Even the sound card drivers installed. But the
sound card software won't work, the scanners won't work, the video
editing software stumbles (making it ineffective). So for light duty
computing, Win7 or probably Vista may get by, unless you have the latest
and greatest hardware. Otherwise XP gets the job done and will continue
to do so for many years.

The business world did not receive Vista as expected. Those that argue
that fact are only trying to justify their actions. Vista will go the
way of Bob/Me, I'm sure of it.


Terry R.

 

[Woger]

You forget that buying a computer with an OS already on it has created a
world-wide stander for computer users.
That is a very good thing.
Would you buy a car without an engine and then call that buyers freedom?
If you don't like the OS that comes with a computer you bought retail,
then either change the OS or else BYO.
That's is the real "freedom" of choice.

Not it is not as MS has dropped the sale of XP..

 

[Woger]

The date and time was Tue Jun 23 2009 12:54:10 GMT-0700 (Pacific
Daylight Time), and on a whim, Bill Sharpe pounded out on the keyboard:


What tasks do you perform on your laptop, and what hardware do you use?
Those questions make all the difference in the world with whether
Vista "works" or not.

I have a partition of Win7 on this workstation. It runs fine. Browser
and email work fine. Even the sound card drivers installed. But the
sound card software won't work, the scanners won't work, the video
editing software stumbles (making it ineffective). So for light duty
computing, Win7 or probably Vista may get by, unless you have the latest
and greatest hardware. Otherwise XP gets the job done and will continue
to do so for many years.

The business world did not receive Vista as expected. Those that argue
that fact are only trying to justify their actions. Vista will go the
way of Bob/Me, I'm sure of it.


Terry R.

This is the problem I find, none or limited drivers on equipments that is
only a few years old..

I could not stand VISTA, but I did install WIN 7 7100 and was pleased with
it, its fast to load and was easy to install, but need to Move the User
directory and kill the user account controls.

What was interesting is that it had new drivers for a old HP 6L laser jet
printer, but is limited for my scanner and 2 other printers that are not that
old.


The other problem is drivers for on board add on chipset's


So why should I have to replace equipments that works 100% and that fits my
needs all because of MS lack of support.


MS Must supply drivers full stop..

 

[Roy Smith]

I have had no problems with either XP on my desktop or Vista on my
laptop(once I dumped user account controls). I see no immediate need to
upgrade to Windows 7 on either platform. Windows 7 isn't even officially
released yet.

I have an eMachines PC that came with Vista pre-installed on it.
Recently I installed the Windows7 RC1 on it and it seems to run a lot
faster than it did before. Unfortunately I don't have and benchmarks to
show you the difference in speed, but even my children who use the pc
have commented on how much better Win7 runs vs Vista.

When Win7 is finally released, I'll gladly upgrade all of my pc's to it
and get rid of Vista and XP.

 

[Charlie Tame]

I have an eMachines PC that came with Vista pre-installed on it.
Recently I installed the Windows7 RC1 on it and it seems to run a lot
faster than it did before. Unfortunately I don't have and benchmarks to
show you the difference in speed, but even my children who use the pc
have commented on how much better Win7 runs vs Vista.

When Win7 is finally released, I'll gladly upgrade all of my pc's to it
and get rid of Vista and XP.

The only problem is that W7 RC is NOT complete, if you recall the very
first XP ran very fast, but then it was found there were so many
security holes and bits missing it only became viable after SP1 - MS
removed the original from distribution and only maintained the XP SP1
version. It got bigger and slower. I think the W7 idea of a separate
package of "Live Essentials" is a much better ides, so that MS can
concentrate on getting the "Core" right and addressing application side
problems on their own is much better with the obvious inherent option of
not installing stuff you know you will never use. However we also don;t
yet know what the various packages will consist of, eg Home, Basic,
Business or Ultimate do we?

I agree that W7 seems much more ready for release than Vista did, but
all things can change

 

[Guest]

The Answer Is Yes, Windows 7 RC Works Great On My Dell XPS 630I.

 

[Alama]

The smart money waits for the larger market to do the preliminary
testing... and usually waits for SP1 too.

I agree. And I am also seeing that RC1 is getting very good welcoming by the
market

 

[Gregg Fowler]

I think that it will come out pretty well. I haven't seen any glaring
OMG-We'll-All-Die! style of problems with Windows 7 RC. The RC is
honestly very good on its own, and the Pre-RTM builds have been minor
improvements and bug-fixes mostly. You could wait until it hits retail
and some testing has been done. Or you can get in on the current deals
that are being put out for the upgrade packages. They have 50% off deals
for the upgrade packges right now, but that will end before the middle
of the month. Check here on Microsoft's own store site:
http://tinyurl.com/mzaegm

I would order the upgrade now, and then you can install it at your
leisure.

I ordered the upgrade, but right now I am much happier with Vista Home
Premium than I am the Windows 7 RC. I work in IT for a large school system
so I probably should have waited till we got our license, but didn't. I
still like Windows mail better than Windows Live Mail and some of my
programs don't seem to be quite as responsive in Windows 7.