Upgrade CUZ P4 motherboard died -- Is ASUS CRAP nowadays ?

[Mike T.]

coming from someone who hasn't done anything for years...i'll take that

with
a grain of salt...........

What are you talking about? I've been in IT since 1985, currently a
*working* IT manager, in the sense that I don't -just- tell other people
what to do. My comment about not doing real repair work for years simply
means that I don't troubleshoot to component level nearly as much as I used
to. I started out as an electronics technician in the 80's. In the days of
MS-DOS/PC-DOS, our company had broken PCs that someone had to fix. I got
tagged. I've stayed current with the technology since then. I've got
various IT certs. that mean little to me (various employers required them)
because I've met many certified IT folks who couldn't find the reset button
if it was four feet tall and flashing neon red.

I assure you, Asus' lack of quality control has kept me quite busy for the
last few years in particular. Nothing wrong with that. Gotta pay the bills
somehow. But I don't do much microsurgery on cards anymore. -Dave

 

[Don Freeman]

...exactly!

....the people who use them "dont have to service them"

.......because Asus are decent boards that rarely need 'service'

Get off Asus' back you bullies!!!


and I'm not sure its appropriate to compare home/personal usage to your
experiences with servicing wide-scale corporate deployments of
"McMotherboards"... Dont spew hot air with no facts.... Do you have
anything specific to tell the OP about the boards he was asking about?
(P4T and A8N I believe).

For the record: Even though his experience with, and therefore his opinion
of , ASUS differs from yours and mine, he stated it very well and backed it
up with first-hand experience. It deserved to be heard and I certainly don't
see it as "bullie-ing"

 

[spodosaurus]

Yup. I don't usually repair the boards (that's what I consider to be real
repair work), but I do have to service many systems that are built with asus
mainboards. That's specifically why I have such an incredibly low opinion
of Asus.
Or as someone else wrote:

"ASUS mobos are overpriced toys. I'll guarantee no
tech would mess with them. "

Yup. Couldn't have said it better myself. Those in the know simply do not
build with Asus. Or put another way, if you want to know how reliable a car
really is . . . ask your local mechanic. If Asus was a car brand, no
competent mechanic would drive one. Meanwhile, Motor Trend would write
glowing reviews about the latest Asus cars, after having driven them for a
few hundred miles.

Essentially, that's the situation with Asus. They (Asus) get glowing
reviews from people who don't have to service them. -Dave

I've only had one ASUS board die: it was a DOA and I replaced it with
another ASUS board which is running solid. My first ASUS board in a P200
system from 1996 is still running. Half of my gigabyte boards died from
bad caps along the way...

Regards,

Ari

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[Rod Speed]

Yup. I don't usually repair the boards (that's what I consider to be
real repair work), but I do have to service many systems that are
built with asus mainboards. That's specifically why I have such an
incredibly low opinion of Asus.
Or as someone else wrote:

"ASUS mobos are overpriced toys. I'll guarantee no
tech would mess with them. "

Yup. Couldn't have said it better myself. Those in the know simply
do not build with Asus. Or put another way, if you want to know how
reliable a car really is . . . ask your local mechanic. If Asus was
a car brand, no competent mechanic would drive one. Meanwhile, Motor
Trend would write glowing reviews about the latest Asus cars, after
having driven them for a few hundred miles.

Essentially, that's the situation with Asus. They (Asus) get glowing
reviews from people who don't have to service them. -Dave

They also get glowing reviews from those tho have used them for years too.

 

[Rod Speed]

I've only had one ASUS board die: it was a DOA and I replaced it with
another ASUS board which is running solid. My first ASUS board in a
P200 system from 1996 is still running. Half of my gigabyte boards
died from bad caps along the way...

I had one gigabyte board die, have used asus
exclusively since, never seen an asus die yet.

The other thing I dont like about gigabyte is the bizarre variety of
flashes they always have, they clearly are shipping the motherboards
too early and have to revise them more than once etc.

 

[spodosaurus]

I had one gigabyte board die, have used asus
exclusively since, never seen an asus die yet.

I'm going that way now, too.

The other thing I dont like about gigabyte is the bizarre variety of
flashes they always have, they clearly are shipping the motherboards
too early and have to revise them more than once etc.

You can say that again. 'Use flash X if Y but it's older than W which
won't fix Q'


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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/