Unstable with more than 512 meg of memory.


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Brian

I hope someone may have an idea how to fix my problem. Specs are.
Asus A7N8X Deluxe Board Rev. 1 1008 Bios
AMD 3200- 200 FSB
MSI FX5700 Ultra 128 66.81 Drivers
512 Corsair XMS4000 -2 sticks
Soundblaster Audigy Gamer
80 gig WD Hard Drive
Running Windows xp sp2
Not overclocked in any way.

The problem is : at 512 megs of ram my machine will run all the
benchmarks and games with no problem.

If I add a 2nd 512 megs of ram , the machine locks up on any video
benchmark. It will not run any game that access any d3d .

The memory is set at optimal in the bios and I have also tried Kingston
Hyper X memory with the same results.

Any possible solutions will be appreciated, Thank You.
Memory Timing for XMS is 8-3-3-3
Matched pair of XMS
 
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David H. Lipman

That's pretty lame Brian.

You posted this question before.
You were asked for the OS which you failed to provide and then reposted the same stuff still
not indicating the OS.

If you want help read the thread you already created !

Dave
 
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Dreamaker

That's pretty lame Brian.

you are never think about compatibility issue on hes hardware kido...
You posted this question before.
You were asked for the OS which you failed to provide and then reposted the same stuff still
not indicating the OS.

If you want help read the thread you already created !

Dave

What up about the os shit. he as to install the nforces driver witch will provide the requered dll
to control his f%?&G memory. plus its memory controler stop at 400mhz pc3200 not 4000. also did you
ever hear about that amd work best with low cas latency ...MORON.
 
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David H. Lipman

The OS has *much* do to with it. A family of MS OSs have a stability problem with RAM
512MB. Exactly what the OP reported. On these platforms there are specific entries to
SYSTEM.INI need to be entered. The OP indicated he swapped RAM with like results.

There are many solutions to many problems but all the facts must be defined to give the
right answer for a particular problem.

So get off your f**k'n high horse and don't call me a moron !

OK ?

Dave




| What up about the os shit. he as to install the nforces driver witch will provide the
requered dll
| to control his f%?&G memory. plus its memory controler stop at 400mhz pc3200 not 4000.
also did you
| ever hear about that amd work best with low cas latency ...MORON.
 
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dino

exactly...if he "happens" to be running 98SE he needs to edit to allow
anything greater than 512 to run properly
 
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David H. Lipman

Yes, the Win9x/ME family suffers this malady.

Dave




| exactly...if he "happens" to be running 98SE he needs to edit to allow
| anything greater than 512 to run properly
|
|
 
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Charlie

Yes, the Win9x/ME family suffers this malady.

Dave

Well, the OP stated he was running Win XP sp2.

Since I have the same board with only 512 MB, but looking to add
another, I'd be particularly interested in any help you might offer
(in case I see the same problem).
 
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David H. Lipman

Oh sh!t - I missed that in his repost. Thanx for pointing that out charlie { damn ! }

In; %windir%\SYSTEM.INI

Add the following...

[vcache]
MaxFileCache=512000

The value 512000 can be less.

Dave




| On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:15:12 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
|
| >Yes, the Win9x/ME family suffers this malady.
| >
| >Dave
|
| Well, the OP stated he was running Win XP sp2.
|
| Since I have the same board with only 512 MB, but looking to add
| another, I'd be particularly interested in any help you might offer
| (in case I see the same problem).
|
 
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steve p

David H. Lipman said:
Oh sh!t - I missed that in his repost. Thanx for pointing that out charlie { damn ! }

In; %windir%\SYSTEM.INI

Add the following...

[vcache]
MaxFileCache=512000

The value 512000 can be less.

Dave




| On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:15:12 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
|
| >Yes, the Win9x/ME family suffers this malady.
| >
| >Dave
|
| Well, the OP stated he was running Win XP sp2.
|
| Since I have the same board with only 512 MB, but looking to add
| another, I'd be particularly interested in any help you might offer
| (in case I see the same problem).
|

Are you running the 2 sticks in Dual channel - try them in single.
Get Memtest-86 (http://www.memtest86.com) and test each stick individually,
then both together in single channel mode, then both together in dual
channel.

Run the standard tests for a few hours in each of the above configs.
Then you'll have an idea.

I've got a similar problem running 2x512 Crucial PC3200 Cas3 if I try to run
dual channel (W2K).
Random blue screen crashes and errors.
Must email Crucial about it sometime.
Each stick tests fine on it's own or together in single channel.
Errors occur in Dual.

Hope you have better luck than me.
Steve P.
 
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Dreamaker

The OS has *much* do to with it. A family of MS OSs have a stability problem with RAM
SYSTEM.INI need to be entered. The OP indicated he swapped RAM with like results.

There are many solutions to many problems but all the facts must be defined to give the
right answer for a particular problem.


OK ?


Hmm, i guess that double channel was made same year that ms build that OS system like win95, 98,
se,and millennium.

running a dual channel board one that kind of system would be unsafe. also that ms does"nt support
much these OS. Maintain the use of these system relaying on people help would be alot more "unsafe"
for stability and whatever. Plus if i recall the guy have a 3200 xp one a a7n8x-dx board which is
quite a good board.

Finally xp can manage it own swap file and paging file and video allocating file. So i guess to me
if you "enable" me to do so i will maintain that mixing different timing will cause some problem,
also that hyper-x and corsair doesn't have second timing to fit the other one.

does dual Channel require the exact timing one each stick? i guess so.
the problem is basic.
 
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Noozer

Dreamaker said:
you are never think about compatibility issue on hes hardware kido...

What up about the os shit. he as to install the nforces driver witch will provide the requered dll
to control his f%?&G memory. plus its memory controler stop at 400mhz pc3200 not 4000. also did you
ever hear about that amd work best with low cas latency ...MORON.

Yo... 'Tard... The OS question is ***VERY*** valid.

I know of at least three things that could be wrong depending on which OS
he's using.

Since the dumbass can't even read the answers to his original post he can
sit in his corner and play with himself.
 
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Brian

Noozer said:
the same stuff still


provide the requered dll


pc3200 not 4000. also did you



Yo... 'Tard... The OS question is ***VERY*** valid.

I know of at least three things that could be wrong depending on which OS
he's using.

Since the dumbass can't even read the answers to his original post he can
sit in his corner and play with himself.
I can respond to my post, for those of u who cant read , I suggest u
look at the original post, to clear up the memory question i did not
mix memory pairs . I used A pair From each manufacturer. I also Used a
Pair of no name 3200 ddr that gave no better results.
I am sorry I have not responded sooner to original post, but some of us
do work on Sunday.
 
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David H. Lipman

Brian:

I want to apologize to you. Since you reposted, not replied to a post, and put all the
information in the repost, I missed your statement about WinXP. I was mistaken and I am
sorry for my reply.

Dave :-(




| I can respond to my post, for those of u who cant read , I suggest u
| look at the original post, to clear up the memory question i did not
| mix memory pairs . I used A pair From each manufacturer. I also Used a
| Pair of no name 3200 ddr that gave no better results.
| I am sorry I have not responded sooner to original post, but some of us
| do work on Sunday.
 
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Dreamaker

Dreamaker said:
Yo... 'Tard... The OS question is ***VERY*** valid.

I know of at least three things that could be wrong depending on which OS
he's using.

Since the dumbass can't even read the answers to his original post he can
sit in his corner and play with himself.
i think you must do it allot by this time Kido.

here is the post with the imp line

512 Corsair XMS4000 -2 sticks

Running Windows xp sp2. / spooky woo, ok .

The problem is : at 512 megs of ram my machine will run all the
benchmarks and games with no problem.
ok it runs find at 512mb on corsair and Kingston
--------
If I add a 2nd 512 megs of ram , the machine locks up on any video0
benchmark.(((( It will not run any game that access any d3d.))))
it did that one time to me when i was oc my CPU without or whit modding the voltage.
i was oc my 2600 to 3200 on a a7n8x-x...


which part of this is unclear. at 1 gig the system crash on corsair and Kingston,
assuming that maybe he will try mixing them like i would do to spare 150$ each stick i concluded
that it wasn't the write thing to do.
http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/products/specs/cmx512-4000pro.pdf 500mgz ddr
it say in that pdf that the corsair module that we are tested at 2.75 volt on a Pentium board
would it mean that lowering the voltage increase the current and causing the ram to heat beyond it
rating at one gigs. it Could be that but ...
http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=143266#post143266
Yep it might be a voltage issue to...
But hey i do mistake, here, to resolve the problem he could c:format he's hd... X-(
that way he wouldn't have any mem controller bugging or re-write he's system.ini file to enhance is
OS xp. oups i did it again.


also notice that he's bios as not been updated

http://usa.asus.com/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=A7N8X-E Deluxe
here is one case that fix a bug related to video gaming
Fix ATI 9700 failed to boot when aperture size is changed.
A7N8X-E Deluxe BIOS 1011


Any possible solutions will be appreciated, Thank You.
Memory Timing for XMS is 8-3-3-3 Xxxthe pc 4000 is 8 4 4 3
Matched pair of XMS

Lets pray for he's soul now.
 

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