Uninstall Windows Firewall? MCP's??

[Planet X]

I was having a chat with an IT Professional the other day. He said
uninstalling Windows Firewall was better than just turning it off, as
it still remained active.

I couldn't see that myself, and I was wondering what the MCP's here
think?

 

[Ted Zieglar]

I don't know what an MCP is. But I do know that Windows Firewall can't
be uninstalled, because it's part of the operating system. When you
install an SP 2-compliant third party firewall, Windows turns off
Windows Firewall. It wouldn't let Windows Firewall still be active
because having two software firewalls running at the same time is
counterproductive.

If I were you I wouldn't take any more advice from that IT Professional.

 

[AJR]

"MCP" =Microsoft Certified Professional.

I don't know what an MCP is. But I do know that Windows Firewall can't be
uninstalled, because it's part of the operating system. When you install an
SP 2-compliant third party firewall, Windows turns off Windows Firewall. It
wouldn't let Windows Firewall still be active because having two software
firewalls running at the same time is counterproductive.

If I were you I wouldn't take any more advice from that IT Professional.

 

[Guest]

You can't remove Windows Firewall because it is came in package/pundel
updates in SP2 so you can't uninstall it unless you uninstall SP2 and this
unadvisable to do so.
May he thought you have a third party Firewall and it is better for you if
you have trouble with it, to uninstall it completely rather than Disable it,
you may be have n't clear or he misunderstood, in either way you done good to
come here and get more views to be sure which steps to take.

HTH
Regards
nass

 

[Planet X]

You can't remove Windows Firewall because it is came in package/pundel
updates in SP2 so you can't uninstall it unless you uninstall SP2 and this
unadvisable to do so.
May he thought you have a third party Firewall and it is better for you if
you have trouble with it, to uninstall it completely rather than Disable it,
you may be have n't clear or he misunderstood, in either way you done good to
come here and get more views to be sure which steps to take.

HTH
Regards
nass

So, is this article wrong then? (I'm just asking) :-
http://www.xpmaximized.com/archives/uninstall-windows-xp-firewall.html

 

[Guest]

this is a tip that you can apply in your own risg....may be work, or may
cause something else in you system...if you want to try, do it in a lab
computer first...
Is very interesting and first time i saw something like this...Keep in mind
that why you want to uninstall windows firewal???

 

[Guest]

Hi
Planet X

"Summary:

The steps that we took when doing this was opening up the services
menu which is exactly what the windows firewall, a service. But since
your using the service you cannot stop it until you disable it so we
opened up the properties menu and disabled it completely"
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Thats is not to remove firewall is to disable it, thats what I did.and the
fire wall its always there cause is part of the systwm SP2. to delete the
firewall you need to unistall win SP2, and the only problem then is that in
august all the support for SP1 ends. so no more help after august. just
disable it (turn it off) and as long as you have a good virus scan program it
will be fine.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

I was having a chat with an IT Professional the other day. He said
uninstalling Windows Firewall was better than just turning it off, as
it still remained active.

That was no IT "professional," if he seriously thought that it was
possible to uninstall the built-in firewall. It's an integral component
of the operating system, and cannot be removed.

I couldn't see that myself, and I was wondering what the MCP's here
think?

I think you'd better find another "IT Professional" to consult; one
that's actually familiar with the WinXP.


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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

 

[Bruce Chambers]

I don't know what an MCP is.

"Microsoft Certified Professional"

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcitp/default.asp


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[Bruce Chambers]

So, is this article wrong then? (I'm just asking) :-
http://www.xpmaximized.com/archives/uninstall-windows-xp-firewall.html

Yes, it's a lie. Disabling the service and then deleteing a completely
different application doesn't "uninstall" the firewall; it just disables it.


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[Ted Zieglar]

So...some of you are 'valuable' while others are merely 'certified' ;->
;-> ;->

Then there are folks like me, who are certifiable. But that's another story.

 

[Guest]

Maybe you should make a copy of this pages and passed to your IT.
so he may understand a bid better windos XP firewall.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/internet/sp2_wfintro.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/internet/sp2_wscintro.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/learnmore/icf.mspx

and you can follow the instructions to turn off the firewall, they are in
graphics, so you can go with the little tut.

 

[Guest]

Might just be a moot point or all about the bits & pieces in the registry, no
real reason or potential benefit by the author is given..
The firewall service is not uninstalled from the system as in having to use
the XP SP2 install disk to reinstall the service, no not at all in any way is
it cut out of the system, even if the bits and pieces in the registry are
uninstalled /removed., as described below..

I stooped then disabled the firewall in services.msc.. I suppose, I was able
to stop the service first because I am protected with NIS..?
Noticed NIS 2006 had disabled the Security Center Service after upgrading
from NIS 2004, by the way.. Anyway, I followed the instructions found on the
site http://www.xpmaximized.com/archives/uninstall-windows-xp-firewall.html
... I opened a cmd window and typed in the following at the prompt:

sc delete Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)

[SC] OpenService FAILED 1060:

The specified service does not exist as an installed service.

Did it remove the bits and pieces from the Registry..?
See the delete command ref, below..

DESCRIPTION:
SC is a command line program used for communicating with the
NT Service Controller and services.
USAGE:
sc <server> [command] [service name] <option1> <option2>...

The option <server> has the form "\\ServerName"
Further help on commands can be obtained by typing: "sc [command]"
Commands:
query-----------Queries the status for a service, or
enumerates the status for types of services.
queryex---------Queries the extended status for a service, or
enumerates the status for types of services.
start-----------Starts a service.
pause-----------Sends a PAUSE control request to a service.
interrogate-----Sends an INTERROGATE control request to a service.
continue--------Sends a CONTINUE control request to a service.
stop------------Sends a STOP request to a service.
config----------Changes the configuration of a service (persistant).
description-----Changes the description of a service.
failure---------Changes the actions taken by a service upon failure.
qc--------------Queries the configuration information for a service.
qdescription----Queries the description for a service.
qfailure--------Queries the actions taken by a service upon failure.
delete----------Deletes a service (from the registry).
create----------Creates a service. (adds it to the registry).
control---------Sends a control to a service.
sdshow----------Displays a service's security descriptor.
sdset-----------Sets a service's security descriptor.
GetDisplayName--Gets the DisplayName for a service.
GetKeyName------Gets the ServiceKeyName for a service.
EnumDepend------Enumerates Service Dependencies.

The following commands don't require a service name:
sc <server> <command> <option>
boot------------(ok | bad) Indicates whether the last boot should
be saved as the last-known-good boot configuration
Lock------------Locks the Service Database
QueryLock-------Queries the LockStatus for the SCManager Database
EXAMPLE:
sc start MyService

The firewall service was still in services.msc and could be enabled there or
in control panel or the security center..
So, what is it, a moot point, a lie, proof or just all about the bits &
pieces, a wording issue (you say tomato or I say tomoto), optimist or
pessimist, what..?
The cold fact is it can't be uninstalled from the system unless SP2 is
uninstalled..
Cheers..
j;-j

 

[boburke]

Hmmm...

XPLite can uninstall ICS permanently, as well as many other features
installed with Sp2.

Xplite v.1.6 could, however, the new 1.7 has no trace of ICS, what
gives?

Might just be a moot point or all about the bits & pieces in the registry, no
real reason or potential benefit by the author is given..
The firewall service is not uninstalled from the system as in having to use
the XP SP2 install disk to reinstall the service, no not at all in any way is
it cut out of the system, even if the bits and pieces in the registry are
uninstalled /removed., as described below..

I stooped then disabled the firewall in services.msc.. I suppose, I was able
to stop the service first because I am protected with NIS..?
Noticed NIS 2006 had disabled the Security Center Service after upgrading
from NIS 2004, by the way.. Anyway, I followed the instructions found on the
site http://www.xpmaximized.com/archives/uninstall-windows-xp-firewall.html
.. I opened a cmd window and typed in the following at the prompt:

sc delete Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)

[SC] OpenService FAILED 1060:

The specified service does not exist as an installed service.

Did it remove the bits and pieces from the Registry..?
See the delete command ref, below..

DESCRIPTION:
SC is a command line program used for communicating with the
NT Service Controller and services.
USAGE:
sc <server> [command] [service name] <option1> <option2>...

The option <server> has the form "\\ServerName"
Further help on commands can be obtained by typing: "sc [command]"
Commands:
query-----------Queries the status for a service, or
enumerates the status for types of services.
queryex---------Queries the extended status for a service, or
enumerates the status for types of services.
start-----------Starts a service.
pause-----------Sends a PAUSE control request to a service.
interrogate-----Sends an INTERROGATE control request to a service.
continue--------Sends a CONTINUE control request to a service.
stop------------Sends a STOP request to a service.
config----------Changes the configuration of a service (persistant).
description-----Changes the description of a service.
failure---------Changes the actions taken by a service upon failure.
qc--------------Queries the configuration information for a service.
qdescription----Queries the description for a service.
qfailure--------Queries the actions taken by a service upon failure.
delete----------Deletes a service (from the registry).
create----------Creates a service. (adds it to the registry).
control---------Sends a control to a service.
sdshow----------Displays a service's security descriptor.
sdset-----------Sets a service's security descriptor.
GetDisplayName--Gets the DisplayName for a service.
GetKeyName------Gets the ServiceKeyName for a service.
EnumDepend------Enumerates Service Dependencies.

The following commands don't require a service name:
sc <server> <command> <option>
boot------------(ok | bad) Indicates whether the last boot should
be saved as the last-known-good boot configuration
Lock------------Locks the Service Database
QueryLock-------Queries the LockStatus for the SCManager Database
EXAMPLE:
sc start MyService

The firewall service was still in services.msc and could be enabled there or
in control panel or the security center..
So, what is it, a moot point, a lie, proof or just all about the bits &
pieces, a wording issue (you say tomato or I say tomoto), optimist or
pessimist, what..?
The cold fact is it can't be uninstalled from the system unless SP2 is
uninstalled..
Cheers..
j;-j

So, is this article wrong then? (I'm just asking) :-
http://www.xpmaximized.com/archives/uninstall-windows-xp-firewall.html