unable to receive hotmail

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Guest

I am unable to receive hotmail to my outlook account, every other email sent
comes through but not the ones from hotmail.
 
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VanguardLH

frustrated6634 said:
I am unable to receive hotmail to my outlook account, every other
email sent
comes through but not the ones from hotmail.


Prove you cannot receive e-mail from your Hotmail account - by
providing the error message. If there isn't any e-mail in your
Hotmail mailbox (use the webmail interface to check) then no e-mail
client can report e-mail that isn't there. We're supposed to guess if
you have a paid Hotmail account or not?

Read:

http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.html
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
 
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VanguardLH

Matt Bowgren
Please nominate me for Outlook MVP

The MVPs have their own private mailing list to converse on various
matters. Go spam your candicacy over there. It'll get the attention
it deserves.
 
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Guest

I am not sure why this upset you, but your response is not helpful to
Frustrated6634 and that is the only reason to post in this group. I merely am
asking to be nominated in my posts as the people I help are ultimately the
ones who will appreciate me and take the time to nominate me if I help them.
I wouldn't expect anyone to nominate me if they didn't know that I would
appreciate it just as I wouldn't take the time to help someone that didn't
want help.

Matt Bowgren
Please nominate me for Outlook MVP
 
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F. H. Muffman

I am not sure why this upset you, but your response is not helpful to
Frustrated6634 and that is the only reason to post in this group. I merely
am
asking to be nominated in my posts as the people I help are ultimately the
ones who will appreciate me and take the time to nominate me if I help
them.
I wouldn't expect anyone to nominate me if they didn't know that I would
appreciate it just as I wouldn't take the time to help someone that didn't
want help.

PMFJI, but, near as I can tell, you haven't posted to this newsgroup in
recent memory before today, and you're telling someone else what is or is
not a reason to post to this group?

But, heck, lets go for the basic question. I'm a little familiar with the
MVP Program. Near as I can tell, its people who have been helping other
people out for a long period of time, not just someone who recently showed
up. It's a mark of dedication.

So... since you want to be an Outlook MVP, where were you posting before you
hit this group?
 
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VanguardLH

in message
I am not sure why this upset you, but your response is not helpful
to
Frustrated6634 and that is the only reason to post in this group.

Reread your own post. How does you eliciting MVP nomination for
yourself in your reply post help the OP?
I merely am
asking to be nominated in my posts as the people I help are
ultimately the
ones who will appreciate me and take the time to nominate me if I
help them.
I wouldn't expect anyone to nominate me if they didn't know that I
would
appreciate it just as I wouldn't take the time to help someone that
didn't
want help.

You haven't bothered to read the MVPS site. Begging for common
posters (who are not MVPs) is spamming in the wrong pool. Microsoft
Support Engineers, Team Managers, and other MVPs are who nominate you.
Because of their level of expertise, don't expect them to be much awed
by your expertise because that level of knowledge is commonplace
amongst that crowd. They aren't the ones you are helping so you won't
be getting any votes from them for help posts that you never submit to
them.

Asking to be nominated is probably a sure-fire way of not getting
nominated. An MVP asked me if I wanted to be nominated (that doesn't
mean that I would become an MVP but would merely get nominated). I
declined. I didn't feel the need to add initials to my moniker, plus
there would be pressure to suppress my occasional cantankerous SOB
side. I feel sorry for the ego-weak when I visit their office and
their walls are plastered with trophies, diplomas, and lots of
certificates (of which many are for, gee, 2-day seminars as though
that makes them an expert). There is highly noticeable difference
when you talk to a wise person rather than them trying to prove that
wisdom with paper stuck on the walls or letters after their moniker.
There have been some posts by MVPs who I had to check the list to see
if they really were an MVP (apparently some also continue using that
postfix even when no longer on the current list).

You'll need to spew out thousands of generally helpful posts for a
year, or more, before you are considered enough of a regular to be
nominated, and being nominated is only that. Common posters ain't
gonna get you nominated. Only a few know what "MVP" means (and
usually pick the wrong set of words for the acronym). Spend some time
and actually *read* the MVPS site
(http://www.mvps.org/about/mvp.html). "Some MVPs have tens of
thousands of quality answers to their name that have built up over a
number of years." Becoming an MVP is recognition for your LONG and
NUMEROUS service. You don't lobby for that recognition. MVP isn't
like politics. To expect MVP honorship because you choose to help in
newsgroups is the wrong attitude.

# posts in just the microsoft.* groups

- Under "VanguardLH" (since Sep 11, 2007): 520
- Under "Vanguard" (since Aug 2006): 12,200 (see note2)
- Started posting regularly around Jun 1997 (under my own name but
have changed monikers a few times since), and I consider myself a late
bloomer in Usenet. Mostly did forums before that to get/give help.

- Under "Bowgy4" (since Jul 2005): 112

You're pretty slow on submitting posts. Maybe you started with that
moniker, gave it up, and then came back to it lately. I'm sure there
must be some reason why you think "Bowgy4" should even be considered
for MVP nomination with such a tiny post count and while canvassing
for that nomination to the wrong populace. You still have several
thousand more posts to go but you had better pick up the pace. You
might want to reconsider posting through a webnews-for-dummies
interface as that will hinder your pace and organization of your
posts.

Anyone asking to be an MVP should not be allowed to be one. It is not
the point of the program to wear a shiny badge to glare into the eyes
of the readers of your posts.


Note1: The Google Groups post count has become inaccurate in that last
few months. Something is wrong with their searching through
newsgroups where known posts are not showing up, so the above counts
are inaccurate but there is nothing else to use for posting statistics
by moniker.

Note2: I added the "LH" to my moniker because "Vanguard" is no unique
enough. I only checked a sampling of the Google Group search matches
to see they were mine. Just going by my latest "VanguardLH" moniker,
I'm averaging 10 posts per day. What's your average posting rate?
 
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Guest

And frankly, while you help out a lot of people by fixing their problems, you
also act like a jerk to a lot of people as well who don't know how exactly to
ask for help. You ridicule them for not including the right information very
often, insinuating that they should know better and that you aren't a mind
reader. These people just need to be asked politely for the right
information. Being a jerk is not a good way to live and while I know I can't
have any effect on how you act, I hope someone that is close to you can. I'm
out.
 
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VanguardLH

Bowgy4 said:
And frankly, while you help out a lot of people by fixing their
problems, you
also act like a jerk to a lot of people as well who don't know how
exactly to
ask for help. You ridicule them for not including the right
information very
often, insinuating that they should know better and that you aren't
a mind
reader. These people just need to be asked politely for the right
information. Being a jerk is not a good way to live and while I know
I can't
have any effect on how you act, I hope someone that is close to you
can. I'm
out.


Thin-skinned egos don't do well in Usenet. More likely you realized
that it will take thousands of posts and a maybe a year before you got
that shiny "MVP" postfix and decided you'd never get there.
 
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Brian Tillman

VanguardLH said:
The MVPs have their own private mailing list to converse on various
matters. Go spam your candicacy over there. It'll get the attention
it deserves.

Now, now. Nothing says a person can't campaign for MVP status. I don't
think it will change the outcome much, but there's nothing wrong with it.
 
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Brian Tillman

F. H. Muffman said:
But, heck, lets go for the basic question. I'm a little familiar
with the MVP Program. Near as I can tell, its people who have been
helping other people out for a long period of time, not just someone
who recently showed up. It's a mark of dedication.

This is correct from my perspective. I posted for nearly three years before
I was accepted as an MVP.
 
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VanguardLH

in message
Now, now. Nothing says a person can't campaign for MVP status. I
don't think it will change the outcome much, but there's nothing
wrong with it.


Even if not wrong, it would be futile (for him). I doubt his
subscription would last long on the MVP mailing list if his intent was
to spam for nomination. He can't even figure that out his off-topic
"campaign" should be in a signature to separate it from any help that
he does provide. Guess I jostled his rock too much and he scurried
off.
 

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